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That shit is so god damn slow
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He is not comparable??? His attacks can't get through, he would've been torn apart by Mahito. Kenjaku ain't like that. Especially once he get two domains on him? Mahito and Jogo would've destroyed him. Not hearing anymore.Yuji is still comparable to him, big dawg. Kenjaku has scaling SIGNIFICANTLY away from that to the point that Shinjuku Yuta had to sneak him
Anime only, even Panda and Kusakabe dodged this.
Panda and Kusakabe fought Kashimo and Sukuna, Kashimo a lightning timer god, and Sukuna... well he's ftl so yeah.That shit is so god damn slow
I'm talking about being able to track Todo's swapping target. You're acting like if Sukuna reveals he can do so, it'd be an asspull. But seeing as being able to identify a curse techinque's usage and even which one it'll be was already established by Sukuna, that's a perfectly reasonable thing for him to doWhat are you even talking about
My point is he's still able to fight back properlyHe is not comparable??? His attacks can't get through, he would've been torn apart by Mahito. Kenjaku ain't like that. Especially once he get two domains on him? Mahito and Jogo would've destroyed him. Not hearing anymore.
Saying Panda fought Kashimo like it's any point for scaling is very generous. Also, the Kusakabe that fought Sukuna isn't the same one who dodged this, so that has less groundPanda and Kusakabe fought Kashimo and Sukuna, Kashimo a lightning timer god, and Sukuna... well he's ftl so yeah.
Well yeah, he was probably ftl+ considering Maki just amped him mentally and he the boost from Bf.the Sukuna that Kusakabe threw hands with was definitely not at his FTL level
It was a boost right off of him getting greatly weakened. And regardless, he DEFINITELY did not exert that same effort against friggin Kusakabe given he effortlessly defeats him once he stops entertaining himWell yeah, he was probably ftl+ considering Maki just amped him mentally and he the boost from Bf.
Sukuna being able to do this is fine, what I said it’d be suspicious is the CE traces. As of now Boogie doesn’t leave CE traces.I'm talking about being able to track Todo's swapping target. You're acting like if Sukuna reveals he can do so, it'd be an asspull. But seeing as being able to identify a curse techinque's usage and even which one it'll be was already established by Sukuna, that's a perfectly reasonable thing for him to do
Don't sorcerers leave residuals regardless?Sukuna being able to do this is fine, what I said it’d be suspicious is the CE traces. As of now Boogie doesn’t leave CE traces.
Giving his “weaknesses” to BW would be an asspull, despite making sense, given the timing of the reveal.
It wasn't effortless, Sukuna got blitzed several times and realized if he didn't take him serious, he'd die. If anything he couldn't exert that effort cuz Kusakabe was so vastly above him.It was a boost right off of him getting greatly weakened. And regardless, he DEFINITELY did not exert that same effort against friggin Kusakabe given he effortlessly defeats him once he stops entertaining him
I don’t think Todo swapping Itadori with a boulder would leave residuals -before- the actual swap. That’s what I mean. CE being sparkled where Todo will swap objects.Don't sorcerers leave residuals regardless?
And at that, I'm not continuing thisIt wasn't effortless, Sukuna got blitzed several times and realized if he didn't take him serious, he'd die. If anything he couldn't exert that effort cuz Kusakabe was so vastly above him.
And at that, I'm not continuing this
Maybe since I doubt Gege made this callback unintentionally (Uraume's pose even mimics Gojo's oft-memed "Nah, I'd win" panel, further indicating a possible catastrophic loss incoming for Sukuna), but we'll just have to wait and see.
Uraume say we've won, Kusakabe say Gojo won. Gojo did not win. Will Sukuna win or is this Gege's way of saying Sukuna won't win?
Sukuna getting off-screened
Uraume say we've won, Kusakabe say Gojo won. Gojo did not win. Will Sukuna win or is this Gege's way of saying Sukuna won't win?
While it might not be meant to exactly mirror what happened with Gojo, I do believe this is supposed to be saying that Sukuna has revealed his full hand. So at this point, no matter what, there's nothing new for him to reveal (at least in terms of ability)
Uraume say we've won, Kusakabe say Gojo won. Gojo did not win. Will Sukuna win or is this Gege's way of saying Sukuna won't win?
Never doubt Binding Vow manWhile it might not be meant to exactly mirror what happened with Gojo, I do believe this is supposed to be saying that Sukuna has revealed his full hand. So at this point, no matter what, there's nothing new for him to reveal (at least in terms of ability)
I'm playing. I don't think he has anything new to bring to the tableEh, the most he'd probably end up doing is either something to quickly boost output recovery or to get his CT back sooner at this point, and I can't imagine there's really any way he could make a good trade off to get the former so I think it unlikely any new binding vows revealed that allow for a dramatic swinging of the pendulum again.
My understanding is that most sorcerers that leave residuals are the ones who haven't refined their efficiency enough to avoid wasting notable amounts of CE. I think it's a safe assumption that someone of Todo's intelligence, level of skill and experience wouldn't leave any significant amounts of residual CE unless he deliberately did so. At the same time, I'd also say it's very likely that Sukuna could detect even the tiniest of residuals.Don't sorcerers leave residuals regardless?
Been a while since I've seen/read that part. Maybe some of the different translations hold different contexts, but I took to mean that Kenny J finds taking on Jogo doable but would prefer a more efficient/frugal route. I mean, when I go shopping for eggs, I'll get them at the store sells them at the cheapest price. They're the exact same eggs from size, amount, quality, brand etc. but this location sells them for a buck less and you don't leave money on the table.That's by statements, and statements also say that Kenjaku would have trouble capturing Jogo
Really, the problem is his lack of feats that aren't him getting bitched by Gojo and Sukuna
shouldnt gojo be superior to sukuna in physical stat/CE amp? their injury isnt much to judge
Do we treat fear manip like that? Don't we just measure it and fire resistance by heatI guess we can give Sukuna's flames 1 layer of Fire Manipulation because of it bypassing Jogos flames?
Why are you trying to apply "layering" to Fire Manipulation of all things?I guess we can give Sukuna's flames 1 layer of Fire Manipulation because of it bypassing Jogos flames?
We doDo we treat fear manip like that?
Depends on context I guess. Not many verses gives exact temperature. Beside most of the cases in supernatural powers layers are introduced instead of Temperatures.Don't we just measure it and fire resistance by heat
JJK is so fodder currently we lack even a single layer for any abilities I couldn't find any other abilities worth arguing.Why are you trying to apply "layering" to Fire Manipulation of all things?
This doesn't even refute anything I said.I disagreed with the way you wanted to make 15F Sukuna's output below 10%, not with anything related to any other version of him.
Yes it does. Puts them quite below the god tiers. Any other feats 15F Sukuna has or above doesn't allow them to scale whatsoever.It doesn't. The only thing it will change is that Sukuna will upscale from his MCB calc. Nothing else changes.
Because it is a weakened Kenjaku, who was off guarded and wasn't at full reinforcement at the end of the battle with Takaba, and most likely didn't have his CE flow properly flowing seriously, whereas Yuta was fully prepared there, unlike Kenjaku, Todo then comes in and swaps, further catching Kenjaku off guard.Why does Yuta having Todo for the assist in jumping Kenjaku make him look bad?
Higuruma and panda and More dodged that slow af shitYeah mhm
ngl this might even be an anti-feat for him. He hit Maki and Nanami with his flames with the intent to murder blitz and yet they survived, he then double tapped Naobito and he also survived (it's stated he later succumbed to his injuries but was alive for several hours post-Shibuya), his attacks (excluding Maximum Meteor) are something even weakened grade 1's can survive against!I think Jogo is overrated as hell. Sure, he got ****** up by fighting Gojo and Sukuna but I don’t know how it proves he’s strong.
His other feats are one taping weakened Naobito, Maki and Nanami.
So Gojo > Sukuna > Makora > Kenny > Jogo > Mahito then?Kenjaku > Yuta was never a agenda
It was always a fact smh
Never doubt Kenny West
Now you all just need to accept that Jogo is in the Top 5
No what the hellI guess we can give Sukuna's flames 1 layer of Fire Manipulation because of it bypassing Jogos flames?