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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Sir_Marvulous said:
Yuji is still comparable to him, big dawg. Kenjaku has scaling SIGNIFICANTLY away from that to the point that Shinjuku Yuta had to sneak him
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He is not comparable??? His attacks can't get through, he would've been torn apart by Mahito. Kenjaku ain't like that. Especially once he get two domains on him? Mahito and Jogo would've destroyed him. Not hearing anymore.

M3X_2.0 said:
Anime only, even Panda and Kusakabe dodged this.
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Sir_Marvulous said:
That shit is so god damn slow 😭
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Panda and Kusakabe fought Kashimo and Sukuna, Kashimo a lightning timer god, and Sukuna... well he's ftl so yeah.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
What are you even talking about
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I'm talking about being able to track Todo's swapping target. You're acting like if Sukuna reveals he can do so, it'd be an asspull. But seeing as being able to identify a curse techinque's usage and even which one it'll be was already established by Sukuna, that's a perfectly reasonable thing for him to do
 
Arkenis said:
He is not comparable??? His attacks can't get through, he would've been torn apart by Mahito. Kenjaku ain't like that. Especially once he get two domains on him? Mahito and Jogo would've destroyed him. Not hearing anymore.
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My point is he's still able to fight back properly
Arkenis said:
Panda and Kusakabe fought Kashimo and Sukuna, Kashimo a lightning timer god, and Sukuna... well he's ftl so yeah.
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Saying Panda fought Kashimo like it's any point for scaling is very generous. Also, the Kusakabe that fought Sukuna isn't the same one who dodged this, so that has less ground

But you're on the FTL Sukuna train, so I forgive all that the weakened Sukuna that Kusakabe threw hands with was sure as shit not FTL
 
Arkenis said:
Well yeah, he was probably ftl+ considering Maki just amped him mentally and he the boost from Bf.
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It was a boost right off of him getting greatly weakened. And regardless, he DEFINITELY did not exert that same effort against friggin Kusakabe given he effortlessly defeats him once he stops entertaining him
 
Duedate8898 said:
I'm talking about being able to track Todo's swapping target. You're acting like if Sukuna reveals he can do so, it'd be an asspull. But seeing as being able to identify a curse techinque's usage and even which one it'll be was already established by Sukuna, that's a perfectly reasonable thing for him to do
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Sukuna being able to do this is fine, what I said it’d be suspicious is the CE traces. As of now Boogie doesn’t leave CE traces.

Giving his “weaknesses” to BW would be an asspull, despite making sense, given the timing of the reveal.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Sukuna being able to do this is fine, what I said it’d be suspicious is the CE traces. As of now Boogie doesn’t leave CE traces.

Giving his “weaknesses” to BW would be an asspull, despite making sense, given the timing of the reveal.
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Don't sorcerers leave residuals regardless?
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
It was a boost right off of him getting greatly weakened. And regardless, he DEFINITELY did not exert that same effort against friggin Kusakabe given he effortlessly defeats him once he stops entertaining him
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It wasn't effortless, Sukuna got blitzed several times and realized if he didn't take him serious, he'd die. If anything he couldn't exert that effort cuz Kusakabe was so vastly above him.
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
And at that, I'm not continuing this
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Arkenis said:
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Uraume say we've won, Kusakabe say Gojo won. Gojo did not win. Will Sukuna win or is this Gege's way of saying Sukuna won't win?
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Maybe since I doubt Gege made this callback unintentionally (Uraume's pose even mimics Gojo's oft-memed "Nah, I'd win" panel, further indicating a possible catastrophic loss incoming for Sukuna), but we'll just have to wait and see.
 
Arkenis said:
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Uraume say we've won, Kusakabe say Gojo won. Gojo did not win. Will Sukuna win or is this Gege's way of saying Sukuna won't win?
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While it might not be meant to exactly mirror what happened with Gojo, I do believe this is supposed to be saying that Sukuna has revealed his full hand. So at this point, no matter what, there's nothing new for him to reveal (at least in terms of ability)
 
Eh, the most he'd probably end up doing is either something to quickly boost output recovery or to get his CT back sooner at this point, and I can't imagine there's really any way he could make a good trade off to get the former so I think it unlikely any new binding vows revealed that allow for a dramatic swinging of the pendulum again.
 
Duedate8898 said:
Eh, the most he'd probably end up doing is either something to quickly boost output recovery or to get his CT back sooner at this point, and I can't imagine there's really any way he could make a good trade off to get the former so I think it unlikely any new binding vows revealed that allow for a dramatic swinging of the pendulum again.
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I'm playing. I don't think he has anything new to bring to the table
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Don't sorcerers leave residuals regardless?
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My understanding is that most sorcerers that leave residuals are the ones who haven't refined their efficiency enough to avoid wasting notable amounts of CE. I think it's a safe assumption that someone of Todo's intelligence, level of skill and experience wouldn't leave any significant amounts of residual CE unless he deliberately did so. At the same time, I'd also say it's very likely that Sukuna could detect even the tiniest of residuals.
Sir_Marvulous said:
That's by statements, and statements also say that Kenjaku would have trouble capturing Jogo

Really, the problem is his lack of feats that aren't him getting bitched by Gojo and Sukuna
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Been a while since I've seen/read that part. Maybe some of the different translations hold different contexts, but I took to mean that Kenny J finds taking on Jogo doable but would prefer a more efficient/frugal route. I mean, when I go shopping for eggs, I'll get them at the store sells them at the cheapest price. They're the exact same eggs from size, amount, quality, brand etc. but this location sells them for a buck less and you don't leave money on the table.


Also, been looking into the thermobaric topic of Sukuna's domain. So far, I can't find any rules or policies on this wiki that regard the specificity of a thermobaric explosion other than one calc and a few real world weapons profiles. Still trying to look further into those and some articles but it's kinda going over my head.
 
Holy based + facts. Jogoat memes had a time and place but now I'm at my wits end. Some people think he has some Mahito level of growth and if Sukuna didn't kill him he would solo Mahoraga lol (despite Sukuna's dialogue literally explaining why he couldn't... then again TikTok comments are not a source of peak discussion)
 
Giannysmag said:
Do we treat fear manip like that?
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We do
Giannysmag said:
Don't we just measure it and fire resistance by heat
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Depends on context I guess. Not many verses gives exact temperature. Beside most of the cases in supernatural powers layers are introduced instead of Temperatures.

You know Kashimo has resistance to electricity because his CE nature. If some character can bypass his resistance and electricity work on him then it would count has one layer? Or resistance negation I guess.

Jogo has CE nature based on Fire Manipulation. So I think it works.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
I disagreed with the way you wanted to make 15F Sukuna's output below 10%, not with anything related to any other version of him.
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This doesn't even refute anything I said.


M3X_2.0 said:
It doesn't. The only thing it will change is that Sukuna will upscale from his MCB calc. Nothing else changes.
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Yes it does. Puts them quite below the god tiers. Any other feats 15F Sukuna has or above doesn't allow them to scale whatsoever.
Duedate8898 said:
Why does Yuta having Todo for the assist in jumping Kenjaku make him look bad?
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Because it is a weakened Kenjaku, who was off guarded and wasn't at full reinforcement at the end of the battle with Takaba, and most likely didn't have his CE flow properly flowing seriously, whereas Yuta was fully prepared there, unlike Kenjaku, Todo then comes in and swaps, further catching Kenjaku off guard.
Doubt he could even put up a proper reinforcement 100% for somebody landing a free hit out of a sudden from behind.

The fact that the gang had to weaken and off guard Kenjaku that badly just further supports the narrative that Kenjaku > them normally in stats and allat. And dangerous.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
I think Jogo is overrated as hell. Sure, he got ****** up by fighting Gojo and Sukuna but I don’t know how it proves he’s strong.

His other feats are one taping weakened Naobito, Maki and Nanami.
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ngl this might even be an anti-feat for him. He hit Maki and Nanami with his flames with the intent to murder blitz and yet they survived, he then double tapped Naobito and he also survived (it's stated he later succumbed to his injuries but was alive for several hours post-Shibuya), his attacks (excluding Maximum Meteor) are something even weakened grade 1's can survive against!
 
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