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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Interesting... It seems people can teleport via domains. Hakari did (opened domain) it in the container yard, but when he released it it was above the ocean with Kashimo stating he changed the coordinates. Plus higher levels of Reverse Cursed/regen can remove/heal from poisons. So there's tiers to regen.
 
PowerToScale said:
Interesting... It seems people can teleport via domains. Hakari did (opened domain) it in the container yard, but when he released it it was above the ocean with Kashimo stating he changed the coordinates. Plus higher levels of Reverse Cursed/regen can remove/heal from poisons. So there's tiers to regen.
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Automatically scales to Gojo 🗿, also do you think that explosion at the end could be calced to a good result?
 
This doesnt look good for Kashimo.

The explosion at the end of the chapter seem to be his last attack since he already leaking a lot of ce by being underwater
 
Still on the whole Domain-creation thingy, but it's notable that objects inside a Domain are described as creation. It seems to imply that there's two types of creation in JJK (so far), with Domain-creation and Construction.


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Sakamaki_Fuji said:
I think that when Yuta says "He is stronger than me when on a roll" he means Hakari's scoring multiple Jacklots in a row.
Both Yuta and Hakari have an "Hella CE" mode.
Yuta's lasts a bit longer than Hakari's, but Hakari can potentially reactivate over and over.
My guess is that as long as Hakari gets enough Jackpots to outlast him he'll win.
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This is gonna be a somewhat long post since I'm dropping alot of what i've observed in one go rather than across multiple posts.

As far as we know, Hakari doesn't get buffed from having multiple Jackpots in a row. The 3 Jackpots we've seen him hit all have the same effect so far (unfortunately, I wish he had more abilities. Then again we haven't seen his CT and he's not trying to kill Kashimo). So basically, as far as we know as of 189, it's Jackpot Hakari in general who's stronger than Yuta.

But I think Hakari is strong enough to just blatantly stat bully Yuta. Jackpot Hakari is physically superior to Kashimo by a large margin. Speedblitz levels of speed even (as shown at the end of 188 before he got hit with kashimo's return stroke). Kashimo should be relative to or above Ishigori and Uro. Uro was able to tank a barrage from 5 Minute Mode Yuta using a CT Gauntlet which more than likely increased his striking strength, and Rika who's physically stronger than Yuta at the same time, and she was in perfect fighting shape still. I think she hit Yuta maybe 4 or 5 times during the fight, and Ishigori noted that Yuta had to use Reverse Cursed Tech to heal from all their big moves. She also slightly outsped Yuta in their CQC exchange since she was able to make the hand motions for her CT and then strike Yuta with her hands before Yuta was able to properly land a blow on her. That and she was defeated by all 3 of them combo attacking her.

As for Ishigori, he was pretty much holding back and still overpowering Yuta in CQC even though Yuta was the one to bring the fight to him. And even then, Yuta needed to use RCT after all their big attacks. (It wasn't always shown but Ishigori noted that he did.) We know he wasn't going all out because when Rika first appeared, he shot a Granite Blast at her, and she caught in her hand which caused him to think she's more durable than Yuta is. Then, in chapter 180, he hits Rika with a full power punch (after he told Yuta he was gonna finish the fight now), and in the official translation, the narrator literally said that even if Rika was fully manifested, that punch would've one shotted her. And Yuta doesn't technically 'scale' to Ishigori either. He hit him with Uro's Thin Ice Missile while he wasn't exactly prepared to defend it, and then let Ishigori hit himself with Granite Blast. Rika hurt him to some degree, but he literally one shot her right after, so idk if it's right to say she scales if the Narration went out of it s way to say he would've one shotted her regardless of if she was on the verge of disappearing or not.

As for how this relates to Hakari, Kashimo is basically implied to be the strongest opponent so far which is consistent with Gege outside of the story and Yuta inside the story saying Hakari is stronger than Yuta. But without using that statement for circular scaling, Kashimo should scale to or above the person that one shot Rika. Kenjaku even implied some relativity to an old and dying Kashimo and a potentially prime Ishigori.

As for speed, idk if anyone calced it, but in 186, Hakari reacted to and slightly avoided Kashimo's lightning bolt while he was off guard and after it was inches away from his head. He moved in time for it to hit his arm instead. Kashimo in 186 scales to this casual Jackpot Hakari in terms of speed. Then, Kashimo turns up and amps his stats in 187. In 188, casual Jackpot Hakari is still relative to this turnt up Kashimo that's faster than he was in 186 when he kept up with an even more casual Hakari. He was even able to react to getting hit in the brain with lightning and countering it via expelling it from his nose before his brain got destroyed. (more so a reaction feat than combat speed in this scenario). Then, near the end of 188, Hakari moves so fast that Kashimo is not moving from his perspective while he's throwing barrages, and then when Kashimo tries to retaliate, Hakari literally disappears from his perceptions like a Bleach Flash Step, then appears back in place and continues attacking.

So Jackpot Hakari Actually Trying > 'Turnt Up' Chapter 187188 Kashimo ~ Casual Chapter 188 Hakari > Casual Chapter 186 Hakari ~ 'Base' Chapter 186 Kashimo ~ lightning timing from a very disadvantageous position while off guard

I don't know if there's a calc for that, but feat wise that's clearly above the speed of anyone else in the series as far as I know, and I don't think it scales to anyone.

So AP Wise, Hakari can damage and draw blood from both casual and turnt up Kashimo and overpowered him when actually trying. Similar or greater damage than Yuta with a CT and Rika did to Uro who should be weaker than Kashimo while she was affected by Cursed Speech and couldn't defend

Durability Wise, Hakari actually trying never got hit by Kashimo, but other than his CT and the face scrape, Hakari never needed to use RCT against his attacks. Even base Hakari was able to survive 187 Kashimo trying to kill him with physical strikes while Hakari himself was being nerfed by the electric CE and was still just barely able to fight back. Compared to Yuta that needed to use RCT for Kurorushi, Uro and Ishigori. Granted, Kurorushi has dura neg, but Uro and Ishigori seemed to be raw ap. Not sure about thin ice missile tbh but she hurt Yuta with a physical strike and was relatively fine after his and Rika's barrage, and purely physical augmentation should scale to striking strength style ap and dura

Speed wise, Hakari when actually trying completely blitzed kashimo and scales a few internal scaling chain layers above whatever that lightning timing feat would be. Base Hakari was able to move somewhat relative to but slower than a non turnt up Kashimo while being nerfed (shock/paralysis etc) by simply touching Kashimo while his electric CE was flowing. Yuta doesn't have any feats scaling to this level of speed and can't exactly scale since he said and Gege implied Hakari is above him.

And finally, if we're gonna talk about the narrator saying that Yuta is 2nd to Gojo or Naobito being the fastest etc. The narrator actually said Yuta is second to Gojo in terms of 'unusual abilities', not just in general. As for Naobito, it was said that he was known as the fastest sorcerer, but it's debatable how much is known about Hakari's Domain and exactly how much it buffs his stats etc. Naobito was said to be the fastest due to hus CT and his exceptional timing. Naoya has the same CT, which in verse scaling wise, not VS battle wiki wise is in the Speed of Sound range, give or take. He just doesn't have the same timing as his father. So they should be relative CT wise, and the CT can still be threatened by things like Piercing Blood etc. As for Kashimo, it's been pretty hammered in how saying his CE is like electricity isn't just a comparison, but has the actual properties of electricity as much as fiction would allow at least. And his CT has been blatantly called a lightning bolt

Between statements, scaling, and feats, Hakari really does have alot going over Yuta
 
Jo-Smooth said:
This is gonna be a somewhat long post since I'm dropping alot of what i've observed in one go rather than across multiple posts.

As far as we know, Hakari doesn't get buffed from having multiple Jackpots in a row. The 3 Jackpots we've seen him hit all have the same effect so far (unfortunately, I wish he had more abilities. Then again we haven't seen his CT and he's not trying to kill Kashimo). So basically, as far as we know as of 189, it's Jackpot Hakari in general who's stronger than Yuta.

But I think Hakari is strong enough to just blatantly stat bully Yuta. Jackpot Hakari is physically superior to Kashimo by a large margin. Speedblitz levels of speed even (as shown at the end of 188 before he got hit with kashimo's return stroke). Kashimo should be relative to or above Ishigori and Uro. Uro was able to tank a barrage from 5 Minute Mode Yuta using a CT Gauntlet which more than likely increased his striking strength, and Rika who's physically stronger than Yuta at the same time, and she was in perfect fighting shape still. I think she hit Yuta maybe 4 or 5 times during the fight, and Ishigori noted that Yuta had to use Reverse Cursed Tech to heal from all their big moves. She also slightly outsped Yuta in their CQC exchange since she was able to make the hand motions for her CT and then strike Yuta with her hands before Yuta was able to properly land a blow on her. That and she was defeated by all 3 of them combo attacking her.

As for Ishigori, he was pretty much holding back and still overpowering Yuta in CQC even though Yuta was the one to bring the fight to him. And even then, Yuta needed to use RCT after all their big attacks. (It wasn't always shown but Ishigori noted that he did.) We know he wasn't going all out because when Rika first appeared, he shot a Granite Blast at her, and she caught in her hand which caused him to think she's more durable than Yuta is. Then, in chapter 180, he hits Rika with a full power punch (after he told Yuta he was gonna finish the fight now), and in the official translation, the narrator literally said that even if Rika was fully manifested, that punch would've one shotted her. And Yuta doesn't technically 'scale' to Ishigori either. He hit him with Uro's Thin Ice Missile while he wasn't exactly prepared to defend it, and then let Ishigori hit himself with Granite Blast. Rika hurt him to some degree, but he literally one shot her right after, so idk if it's right to say she scales if the Narration went out of it s way to say he would've one shotted her regardless of if she was on the verge of disappearing or not.

As for how this relates to Hakari, Kashimo is basically implied to be the strongest opponent so far which is consistent with Gege outside of the story and Yuta inside the story saying Hakari is stronger than Yuta. But without using that statement for circular scaling, Kashimo should scale to or above the person that one shot Rika. Kenjaku even implied some relativity to an old and dying Kashimo and a potentially prime Ishigori.

As for speed, idk if anyone calced it, but in 186, Hakari reacted to and slightly avoided Kashimo's lightning bolt while he was off guard and after it was inches away from his head. He moved in time for it to hit his arm instead. Kashimo in 186 scales to this casual Jackpot Hakari in terms of speed. Then, Kashimo turns up and amps his stats in 187. In 188, casual Jackpot Hakari is still relative to this turnt up Kashimo that's faster than he was in 186 when he kept up with an even more casual Hakari. He was even able to react to getting hit in the brain with lightning and countering it via expelling it from his nose before his brain got destroyed. (more so a reaction feat than combat speed in this scenario). Then, near the end of 188, Hakari moves so fast that Kashimo is not moving from his perspective while he's throwing barrages, and then when Kashimo tries to retaliate, Hakari literally disappears from his perceptions like a Bleach Flash Step, then appears back in place and continues attacking.

So Jackpot Hakari Actually Trying > 'Turnt Up' Chapter 187188 Kashimo ~ Casual Chapter 188 Hakari > Casual Chapter 186 Hakari ~ 'Base' Chapter 186 Kashimo ~ lightning timing from a very disadvantageous position while off guard

I don't know if there's a calc for that, but feat wise that's clearly above the speed of anyone else in the series as far as I know, and I don't think it scales to anyone.

So AP Wise, Hakari can damage and draw blood from both casual and turnt up Kashimo and overpowered him when actually trying. Similar or greater damage than Yuta with a CT and Rika did to Uro who should be weaker than Kashimo while she was affected by Cursed Speech and couldn't defend

Durability Wise, Hakari actually trying never got hit by Kashimo, but other than his CT and the face scrape, Hakari never needed to use RCT against his attacks. Even base Hakari was able to survive 187 Kashimo trying to kill him with physical strikes while Hakari himself was being nerfed by the electric CE and was still just barely able to fight back. Compared to Yuta that needed to use RCT for Kurorushi, Uro and Ishigori. Granted, Kurorushi has dura neg, but Uro and Ishigori seemed to be raw ap. Not sure about thin ice missile tbh but she hurt Yuta with a physical strike and was relatively fine after his and Rika's barrage, and purely physical augmentation should scale to striking strength style ap and dura

Speed wise, Hakari when actually trying completely blitzed kashimo and scales a few internal scaling chain layers above whatever that lightning timing feat would be. Base Hakari was able to move somewhat relative to but slower than a non turnt up Kashimo while being nerfed (shock/paralysis etc) by simply touching Kashimo while his electric CE was flowing. Yuta doesn't have any feats scaling to this level of speed and can't exactly scale since he said and Gege implied Hakari is above him.

And finally, if we're gonna talk about the narrator saying that Yuta is 2nd to Gojo or Naobito being the fastest etc. The narrator actually said Yuta is second to Gojo in terms of 'unusual abilities', not just in general. As for Naobito, it was said that he was known as the fastest sorcerer, but it's debatable how much is known about Hakari's Domain and exactly how much it buffs his stats etc. Naobito was said to be the fastest due to hus CT and his exceptional timing. Naoya has the same CT, which in verse scaling wise, not VS battle wiki wise is in the Speed of Sound range, give or take. He just doesn't have the same timing as his father. So they should be relative CT wise, and the CT can still be threatened by things like Piercing Blood etc. As for Kashimo, it's been pretty hammered in how saying his CE is like electricity isn't just a comparison, but has the actual properties of electricity as much as fiction would allow at least. And his CT has been blatantly called a lightning bolt

Between statements, scaling, and feats, Hakari really does have alot going over Yuta
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As of right now since Hakari and Kashimo only scale to each other and can kinda be argued to scale to others based on very few implications and nothing really concrete the speed they're showing probably won't amount to much against others. Another thing is the absurd amount of hax Yuta has over Hakari that would give him the win and allow him to ignore any ap difference.
 
Jo-Smooth said:
But I think Hakari is strong enough to just blatantly stat bully Yuta. Jackpot Hakari is physically superior to Kashimo by a large margin. Speedblitz levels of speed even (as shown at the end of 188 before he got hit with kashimo's return stroke). Kashimo should be relative to or above Ishigori and Uro. Uro was able to tank a barrage from 5 Minute Mode Yuta using a CT Gauntlet which more than likely increased his striking strength,
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This is speculation we don't know what it's true function is but I guess it's fine
Jo-Smooth said:
and Rika who's physically stronger than Yuta at the same time, and she was in perfect fighting shape still. I think she hit Yuta maybe 4 or 5 times during the fight, and Ishigori noted that Yuta had to use Reverse Cursed Tech to heal from all their big moves. She also slightly outsped Yuta in their CQC exchange since she was able to make the hand motions for her CT and then strike Yuta with her hands before Yuta was able to properly land a blow on her. That and she was defeated by all 3 of them combo attacking her.

As for Ishigori, he was pretty much holding back and still overpowering Yuta in CQC even though Yuta was the one to bring the fight to him. And even then, Yuta needed to use RCT after all their big attacks. (It wasn't always shown but Ishigori noted that he did.) We know he wasn't going all out because when Rika first appeared, he shot a Granite Blast at her, and she caught in her hand which caused him to think she's more durable than Yuta is. Then, in chapter 180, he hits Rika with a full power punch (after he told Yuta he was gonna finish the fight now), and in the official translation, the narrator literally said that even if Rika was fully manifested, that punch would've one shotted her. And Yuta doesn't technically 'scale' to Ishigori either. He hit him with Uro's Thin Ice Missile while he wasn't exactly prepared to defend it, and then let Ishigori hit himself with Granite Blast. Rika hurt him to some degree, but he literally one shot her right after, so idk if it's right to say she scales if the Narration went out of it s way to say he would've one shotted her regardless of if she was on the verge of disappearing or not.
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Yeah it was made obvious that they were marginally stronger than him but his RCT was there to heal him from the burns and scorches, he should have Pain Tolerance for withstanding those injuries I think
Jo-Smooth said:
As for how this relates to Hakari, Kashimo is basically implied to be the strongest opponent so far which is consistent with Gege outside of the story and Yuta inside the story saying Hakari is stronger than Yuta. But without using that statement for circular scaling, Kashimo should scale to or above the person that one shot Rika.
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He didn't "one shot" Rika, the limit of Yuta's 5 minute mode was up and she was already demanifesting then Ishigoori struck her, it was stated as difficult to deal with not a Oneshot punch, she already took his Granite Blast so it doesn't make sense that a punch would oneshot her. Even Ishigoori has a major issues with tanking Granite Blast as that's what oneshot him.

I don't think Kashimo should scale above Ishigoori
he's stated to be have the strongest output, despite Kashimo being alive and past his prime and his Technique is the ability to have the same attack output no matter what.
Jo-Smooth said:
Kenjaku even implied some relativity to an old and dying Kashimo and a potentially prime Ishigori.
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No, this wasn't implied at all, Kashimo talks about Ishigoori then Kenjaku says, isn't Mutsu far?
Kashimo then cuts to the chase and asks him about the strongest sorcerer he knows.
Jo-Smooth said:
As for speed, idk if anyone calced it, but in 186, Hakari reacted to and slightly avoided Kashimo's lightning bolt while he was off guard and after it was inches away from his head. He moved in time for it to hit his arm instead. Kashimo in 186 scales to this casual Jackpot Hakari in terms of speed. Then, Kashimo turns up and amps his stats in 187. In 188, casual Jackpot Hakari is still relative to this turnt up Kashimo that's faster than he was in 186 when he kept up with an even more casual Hakari. He was even able to react to getting hit in the brain with lightning and countering it via expelling it from his nose before his brain got destroyed. (more so a reaction feat than combat speed in this scenario). Then, near the end of 188, Hakari moves so fast that Kashimo is not moving from his perspective while he's throwing barrages, and then when Kashimo tries to retaliate, Hakari literally disappears from his perceptions like a Bleach Flash Step, then appears back in place and continues attacking.
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It was calced to Mach 4760
Jo-Smooth said:
So Jackpot Hakari Actually Trying > 'Turnt Up' Chapter 187188 Kashimo ~ Casual Chapter 188 Hakari > Casual Chapter 186 Hakari ~ 'Base' Chapter 186 Kashimo ~ lightning timing from a very disadvantageous position while off guard

I don't know if there's a calc for that, but feat wise that's clearly above the speed of anyone else in the series as far as I know, and I don't think it scales to anyone.
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It would scale to Kashimo , possibly Yuta as Hakari was casual at the time, Gojo because he's Satoru Gojo, possibly Sukuna.
Jo-Smooth said:
So AP Wise, Hakari can damage and draw blood from both casual and turnt up Kashimo and overpowered him when actually trying. Similar or greater damage than Yuta with a CT and Rika did to Uro who should be weaker than Kashimo while she was affected by Cursed Speech and couldn't defend

Durability Wise, Hakari actually trying never got hit by Kashimo, but other than his CT and the face scrape, Hakari never needed to use RCT against his attacks. Even base Hakari was able to survive 187 Kashimo trying to kill him with physical strikes while Hakari himself was being nerfed by the electric CE and was still just barely able to fight back. Compared to Yuta that needed to use RCT for Kurorushi, Uro and Ishigori. Granted, Kurorushi has dura neg, but Uro and Ishigori seemed to be raw ap. Not sure about thin ice missile tbh but she hurt Yuta with a physical strike and was relatively fine after his and Rika's barrage, and purely physical augmentation should scale to striking strength style ap and dura

Speed wise, Hakari when actually trying completely blitzed kashimo and scales a few internal scaling chain layers above whatever that lightning timing feat would be. Base Hakari was able to move somewhat relative to but slower than a non turnt up Kashimo while being nerfed (shock/paralysis etc) by simply touching Kashimo while his electric CE was flowing. Yuta doesn't have any feats scaling to this level of speed and can't exactly scale since he said and Gege implied Hakari is above him.
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I agree Uro and Ishigoori should have Dura and AP>Yuta's
Ishigoori's AP should also > both Yuta and Uro's Dura and he's able to significantly harm the former and oneshot the latter
The scaling between them is actually kinda weird
Jo-Smooth said:
, not just in general. As for Naobito, it was said that he was known as the fastest sorcerer, but it's debatable how much is known about Hakari's Domain and exactly how much it buffs his stats etc. Naobito was said to be the fastest due to hus CT and his exceptional timing. Naoya has the same CT, which in verse scaling wise, not VS battle wiki wise is in the Speed of Sound range, give or take. He just doesn't have the same timing as his father. So they should be relative CT wise, and the CT can still be threatened by things like Piercing Blood etc.
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Sure Gege might have done a little backtracking with the "Already Surpassed Subsonic speed"
Piercing Blood's speed isn't really known, it's exceptionally fast and stated to Exceed the Speed of Sound but that's it.
Jo-Smooth said:
Between statements, scaling, and feats, Hakari really does have alot going over Yuta
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Statements is kinda a 1 to 1 in comparison cause Yuta said he's stronger than him on a roll but he's also said to be second to Gojo as a Sorcerer

Scaling, they both have their thing Yuta downscales from the Strongest CE output in History and is even able to class with Ishigoori although slightly weaker hence downscale. While Hakari's speed

In terms of feats it's really just speed? And we don't actually know for sure how Yuta would scale so you can't say it's going for him

Last but not least Hakari is a One Trick Pony, he's an above average sorcerer, he opens his domain gains infinite CE and RCT and becomes Simply buffed up in stats, that's good but Yuta's plethora of Abilities would edge out
 
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Shey said:
This is actually a botched translation and "unusual abilities" isn't said it goes

OKKOTSU YUTA

OWNS 35 POINTS

AFTER THE NIGHT PARADE OF A HUNDRED DEMONS HE REGAINED HIS SPECIAL GRADE STATUS IN THREE MONTHS. IN THIS MODERN ERA HE IS SECOND ONLY TO GOJO SATORU...

A PRODIGY.
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The kanji for unusual is definitely there in the scan
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異= uncommon, different, queerness, strangeness, wonderful, curious, unusual​

能= ability, talent, skill, capacity​

 
Arkenis said:
The kanji for unusual is definitely there in the scan
907CA3B2-692C-4822-B93F-3B9A057AA37A_1_102_o.jpeg

異= uncommon, different, queerness, strangeness, wonderful, curious, unusual​

能= ability, talent, skill, capacity​

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Then my bad, also I can't see the scans can you imgur it instead
 
Yuta was less below Ishigori, which was clear after the domain clash, they are relative.

We still don't know Yuta’s DE, and there is literally not one scaling chain between Yuta and Hakari, so let's wait for more info.


Edit: I meant Yuta was a little weaker than Ishigori or Ishigori was a bit stronger than him.
 
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HOOGE SPOILERSSSS

Chapter Summary

Panda has regenerated a little body now, Mid - High-Mid Regen I guess

Kashimo used up all his CE to cause that explosion, the Ocean Water played a major role in sapping his CE

Hakari is alive and survives with a Binding vow to sacrifice his arm for further Reinforcing of his entire Body with CE

Hakari and Kashimo reconcile

Kashimo did not reveal his CT because it's a 1 time use and he's saving it for Sukuna so he indeed does have a CT and not just throwing his CE around

Nishimiya appears to brief Hakari, French dude, Kashimo and Panda on what they plan to do about Culling Game rules

We get a SMOOTH MAKI DOUBLE SPREAD

Maki and Noritoshi Kamo are having a chat, they're interrupted by a ghastly presence in the colony, Maki can sense these things now I guess?

It seems to be an Ancient Caterpillar curse that came from outside the Colony.

There you have it folks

 
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So the Cursed Spirit we see at the end of CHPT 189 is a Vengeful spirit whose Identity is Naoya and the Chapter begins with Naoya moving extremely fast, seemingly blitzing Kamo and charging straight at Maki who stops the full force of his movement at a wall he crates a long path of destruction at his wake(A decent AP feat I think
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Hey, so I was checking some of the profiles for the JJK characters and I noticed something interesting.

jogo’s accepted calc of high 7A puts him extremely close to island level (like a bit above 1.5 times I think), and this calc is used off to scale others like Sukuna and Gojo of course.

The thing is, since Jogo’s own AP is already stupidly close to reaching island level shouldn’t characters like Sukuna and Gojo be placed at island levels since it was described that Jogo has the power of about 8 Sukuna fingers and was being easily toyed with by 15 finger Sukuna. And even just adding a 2x increase would place them into the island level category so should their profiles be changed from High 7A to 6C due to that?
 
Maitreya said:
Hey, so I was checking some of the profiles for the JJK characters and I noticed something interesting.

jogo’s accepted calc of high 7A puts him extremely close to island level (like a bit above 1.5 times I think), and this calc is used off to scale others like Sukuna and Gojo of course.

The thing is, since Jogo’s own AP is already stupidly close to reaching island level shouldn’t characters like Sukuna and Gojo be placed at island levels since it was described that Jogo has the power of about 8 Sukuna fingers and was being easily toyed with by 15 finger Sukuna. And even just adding a 2x increase would place them into the island level category so should their profiles be changed from High 7A to 6C due to that?
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Yeah but it would be only with domains
 
Arkenis said:
Yeah but it would be only with domains
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Gotcha, looking back Jogo says something akin to the difference being way higher than he originally thought to Sukuna. But I think a baseline island level would probably be fitting due to how high they scale off Jogo.
 
Maitreya said:
Gotcha, looking back Jogo says something akin to the difference being way higher than he originally thought to Sukuna. But I think a baseline island level would probably be fitting due to how high they scale off Jogo.
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Maybe for their ct, I could see red or dismantle being 6-C since they basically one shot Jogo or Hanami
 
Maitreya said:
Gotcha, looking back Jogo says something akin to the difference being way higher than he originally thought to Sukuna.
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He was 8 fingers in strength and 9 generously, he didn't think a 15 Finger Sukuna would be too far from his strength, boy was he wrong
 
Alexander said:
alguien me quiere repetir,porque el black flash no se puede usar
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Arkenis said:
¿por qué no puede?
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Alexander said:
dime algo mas especifico
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Arkenis said:
¿Por qué no podemos usar black flash?
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Alexander said:
es lo que dije
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Arkenis said:
Te pregunto por qué dices que no podemos usar el black flash.
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Alexander said:
es lo que dije
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Alexander said:
se dice en los perfiles de jjk que no se puede usar el black flash,porque?
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English, plsase?
 
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