? Nothing says that blue gojo > CT Miguel. Best you can go for is >=
Again, this is contradictory as hell.
Dude. You are blatantly ignoring the very large difference that no amount of "Yeah he is consistently more durable than he is powerful" is gonna work. I've already debunked how that makes no sense. You've got no evidence to make this assertion.
? Dude went REL with Sukuna there and had to surprise him, which Sukuna still reacted. This is not gojo level stats. You're just yapping to yap.
This nerfed Sukuna is several levels below himself
inconsistent argument.
I'll take that as you not having a counter argument and that you're just yapping to yap. Thanks.
It actually IS as big as an amp that I'm making it to be. I implore you to reread Megumi vs second finger bearer and how large of a difference there is. Megumi got knocked out COLD.
That Naobito nerf only comes afterwards. Naobito was perception blitzing dagon, then Dagon went a speed level higher and knocked his ass away. The Anime shows it more impressively. Much faster than before.
???? Just a bunch of yap that you can't even prove to be related to this. He did not get a emotional amp. He had a enlightenment and unlocked DE. This was DE amp. Take it or leave it.
Reggie is simply just that guy. Next argument.
Uh no. This isn't supported at all. Gojo says as much in 228 that their only way of fighting is h2h DA. (For Sukuna that is) and we see that as much. Sukuna always uses DA whenever he interacts or fights with gojo with infinity on. Chapter 227. 228. 229.
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This translation supports it as much. And we even have feats for it. Not to mention, it would be very suspicious of Sukuna to turn it off whenever he's fighting Gojo as he would NOTICE. Which wouldn't be good for Sukuna's plan. Him for some reason turning it off whilst engaging in combat would be suspicious when gojo goes in for the hit. So he can only do this whenever THEY'RE not in combat, basically brief moments or the like. In chapter 229, before they begin their final domain expansion, we see Gojo and Sukuna in a "clash" of sorts, with his lunch being very close to his face which Sukuna is clearly holding. There is very much evidence and implications towards Sukuna using DA than him not using it. His face being torn apart like that comes after that particular panel. So no red.
Additionally. Compare this to chapter 226 red and the wound Sukuna took at 229 in the panel you showed, there is a clear difference of what is "scorch/burn marks" and a simple face being torn apart with the muscles of the face showing.
No. You're making UP points that isn't even supported by the narrative.
Everybody else there either thinks he's gonna regain his rct output. Maki knows this. Choso knows this. Yuji knows this. But they all also know what a BF does - you start getting into the zone and basically stronger. Output is being restored not just rct. It's also why Miguel says his momentum is on the rise because that's what a BF is about.
Nowhere IS it stated that he's afraid he'll regain his domain expansion. I have no idea as to how you think Miguel would supposedly know how to regain back your crippled domain from brain damage, which even nobody else knows when they know Sukuna is suffering brain damage. Sukuna only figured this out through multiple BF, which allowed him to figure one out and do it via binding vows + hand sign swapped.
Then Sukuna gets SURPRISED. Very shocked to see Sukuna pull off a DE. Is this the same guy you're saying that expected Sukuna to pull of a DE soon? Yeah your argument has little to no evidence and is just headcanon.
Funnily enough. Miguel doesn't only speak about no domain Sukuna, but a Sukuna that is also nerfed. They also observe his current state of injuries and note that: Heart missing, some limbs too, rct output garbage, etc. You're acting as if Miguel said he would fight 20F full health Sukuna with no domain
this is the craziest Miguel glaze I've ever seen. Which needs to fall off.
Also. Sukuna's slashes and himself clearly got stronger. Sukuna and Miguel clearly exchange hands for one brief moment, Miguel goes back and spams his ability which not only buffs him but also debuffed Sukuna and yet he could do Jack shit.
This Gojo rival ain't allat. He couldn't even continue pressuring Sukuna or to prevent him from punching Larue despite being supposedly gojo level in stats. I'm ngl you're just arguing atp for agenda.
Not sure if you can notice but Miguel is going relative to Sukuna in physicals but outperforms him after the buff and debuff, and if he was gojo level as you're making him to be then he'd simply ignore any of his attacks and punches and blitz and overpower him every single moment with no diff
that's how weakened Sukuna IS.
Put adult gojo without blue or anything and he'd manhandle Sukuna without the latter being able to do any single scratch or overpower. He's just getting slapped up for free and blitzed every second.
Being gojo level would still make you a god tier which isn't even supported by the narrative. Again you're holding a very disingenuous premise.
But fine let's do a dissection of that statement.
I've previously went over this before and had some confusion [Before]
For starters, to explain my confusion. The narrator talks about Miguel's CT. How it improves his physical capabilities, by buffing himself. How he can debuff others too, their stats.
Gojo says it is pretty useful but not that scary.
Yuta asks him if it is dangerous to him.
Gojo goes off about him and Miguel in a 1vs1 fight no CT and only ce reinforcement and talks about who would win in skill.
This is where my confusion comes in - Yuta asked him if this was dangerous to him. But gojo responded with what to me looks like a whole different non related answer.
Gojo has his infinity. He can use domain expansion (something Miguel is afraid of), red to repell Miguel and blue to attract, etc. Even teleport. To me, Yuta's question is nonsense because Miguel can't bypass Gojo's infinity to threaten him with that CT to begin with, nor pose any danger to gojo at all who can unleash his DE.
But then gojo proceeds to exclude out Miguel's CT when that was the topic about whether it can pose danger to gojo or not, to talk about CE reinforcement contest in skill only.
There's a reasoning for these questions and confusion above that I presented.
Let's begin: Gojo's presenting a metric where Miguel would logically be a problem, which is H2H skill.
In the scenario where gojo is unable to use his CT, or his capacity to utilize CE for whatever reason is stifled, Miguel would be a threat. Because he’s a better offensive striker than gojo is, which is pretty bad for him. Because gojo utilizes defensive counter based styles into mostly relentless offense. If he’s fighting someone that does that BETTER than he does and he can’t just outstat or outhax Miguel, he's in trouble.
He’s referring to this in equivalent to his CT, because Miguel’s CT informs his fighting style.
So gojo's picking out the specific part of Miguel that would be a issue.
You might ask "Yeah but he says that without their CT in usage no?"
Yeah but Miguel’s Fighting style is influenced innately by the technique he was born with. So gojo's going to associate that as a part of Miguel.
The example of if whatever reason gojo is unable to out hax or completely outstat Miguel, gojo is in trouble.
Gojo is mentioning to Yuta a facet where Miguel would be dangerous for him. And that's literally just it.
You, for whatever reason assume this is a case where gojo is at full reinforcement. Even though all gojo is saying is that, Miguel is a better offensive striker and so if for whatever reason they were on a equal playing field, Gojo is screwed.
You for example might think that Gojo is saying Miguel as a whole is a issue. Which isn't true. Rather, he's mentioning a facet where Miguel is a threat, the part of Miguel that is dangerous under circumstances that stifled gojo in various aspects that I mentioned above.
If gojo meant that Miguel was 20F in stats which you are going with, he wouldn't refer to Miguel's skill specifically. He would just say "oh well Miguel has physicals on par with me". And the other context from manga is
“Miguel doesn’t want to box with a Flow state nerfed sukuna”
“Maybe he’s not on sukunas level“
Ik you might ask "How would you know he's referring to his skill specifically. He says physical contest with only CE reinforcement and says it comes down to their skill doesn't that mean their equal or relative"
The answer to that is: Because he mentions skill as the primary difference that makes Miguel a issue. If Miguel's physicals were a problem he'd just say “Well Miguel has equal stats to me”
Like bro, use context clues HERE.
Miguel can outskill sukuna whilst spamming his CT, but it does no damage. And he fears Sukuna once he gets into a flow state enough to run away even though it's a 4vs1.
What does that tell you?
He barely held off from a Vol 0 gojo and didn't land one hit on him, whilst getting hit with shit like wing chun beatdown and chased around. This was one eye concealed gojo too (it's stated that blindfold or the like dampen the power of six eyes) and a gojo very clearly holding back if it wasn't obvious.
What does that tell you?
Gojo thinks the issue is that Miguel is a more skilled striker than he is, but here Miguel is getting slapped around by Gojo.
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And he gets scared off by Sukuna the moment he goes into flow from one BF.
I'm sorry but Miguel is not a god tier physical stats guy on the level of Gojo. If he was he'd be bullying Sukuna with the nonstop blitzing and never allow him to perform one single DE with the sheer speed difference.
Like if you sit down for a second and think about it: We see how dagon doesn't get perception blitzed anymore when he gets the domain buff. In the Anime it's more impressive.
