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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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MinatoSparkle
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Is Uraume a player?
MinatoSparkle
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Where's it stated?
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Somewhere in the manga idk, Kenjaku said it.
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Do you geniunely think that Goku and Luffy are smarter than Yuji?
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MinatoSparkle
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Mk I'll look for it
How is that relevant? We're talking about the accuracy of Yuji's profile here, not the accuracy of others
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Yes??? Luffy understands the fundamental mechanics behind conceptual devil fruits and the fine manipulations that require their 100% potential accessing the epitome of Devil Fruit science. Never disrespect Lufferton again. And Goku has learned alien abilities which require incredible spatial calculations across entire universes down to their subatomic particles beyond the regular 4d spatial and temporal dimensions. These guys are inaccessibly smarter than Yuji could ever be with his puny Cursed Techniques which. Be so real
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Additions for Chapter 220 in the Volume, when Kenjaku includes the rule that the culling game ends when everyone but himself, Sukuna, and uruame's vessel are dead. Also, uruame wouldn't be able to enter the colonies like she did without being a culling game player as there were no rules which added such an exception to allow her beforehand
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Btw Miguel doesn't scale to gojo. Unless you can explain why he didn't one shot brain damaged and severely output nerfed Sukuna who's missing more than half of his CE reserves + severe injuries (lack of arms. We're told this nerfs you. See Naobito and Hana)
Feel free to explain why Miguel was going "Oh shit this is bad Sukuna is in the zone with a Bf. His shitty output rising now. I gotta go.." in the chapter after he landed BF on Larue. Chapter 256.
There's a way to interpret what Gege or precisely gojo wanted to convey there with the statement about Miguel, given the context above that clearly indicates MIGUEL is clearly not on Gojo/Sukuna level, not even comparable or close. Tho it'd take long ig
Feel free to explain why Miguel was going "Oh shit this is bad Sukuna is in the zone with a Bf. His shitty output rising now. I gotta go.." in the chapter after he landed BF on Larue. Chapter 256.
There's a way to interpret what Gege or precisely gojo wanted to convey there with the statement about Miguel, given the context above that clearly indicates MIGUEL is clearly not on Gojo/Sukuna level, not even comparable or close. Tho it'd take long ig
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Oh. The JJK mobile game might actually be secondary canon...
From what I've heard from someone: It has the same staff as jjk manga and tv.
4 editors from gege's team.
And toho's chief who's in charge of jjk animation.
Yall remember this guy? He's the current editor for Gege. He's also listed as someone with the JJK mobile game.
Sounds quite official to me. Though only issue I could see being is... if events are altered. Tho there's already bunch of stuff added in between events ig? Not sure. Would have to take a deeper look. Just wanted to post this here so yall would know.
From what I've heard from someone: It has the same staff as jjk manga and tv.
4 editors from gege's team.
And toho's chief who's in charge of jjk animation.
Yall remember this guy? He's the current editor for Gege. He's also listed as someone with the JJK mobile game.
Sounds quite official to me. Though only issue I could see being is... if events are altered. Tho there's already bunch of stuff added in between events ig? Not sure. Would have to take a deeper look. Just wanted to post this here so yall would know.
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Sukuna's always been a durable mofo. He could take a bunch of hits from Blue Gojo without too much damage despite Base RCT blasting Gojo being relative to DE Sukuna. He also withstood 7 Black Flashes from Yuji despite Yuji's regular strength not being so far from his own.
Because of the risk of DE
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So you're saying Miguel with CT amp boost is > Gojo in CE reinforcement and Sukuna with brain damage that ***** over his CE output badly, took these punches in for free. Lol. And this was with having lost half of his CE reserves. Also did you forget that the very same Sukuna had gojo doing holes in him twice? He even teared part of his face with his bare hands. Limbs missing severely brain damaged output nerfed + more than half of his CE reserves Sukuna is not comparable to full health Sukuna. No idea how you can straightforwardly compare them here whilst ignoring this context
It was never said he was scared of this. You're making things up now
2024 and we're still gassing up Miguel despite seeing his feats. He's not gojo tier and will never be. Period
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Without Blue, yes. Because it's quite directly stated
1. Blue is truly goatedand Sukuna with brain damage that ***** over his CE output badly, took these punches in for free. Lol. And this was with having lost half of his CE reserves. Also did you forget that the very same Sukuna had gojo doing holes in him twice? He even teared part of his face with his bare hands. Limbs missing severely brain damaged output nerfed + more than half of his CE reserves Sukuna is not comparable to full health Sukuna. No idea how you can straightforwardly compare them here whilst ignoring this context
2. Gojo probably used Red to injure his face considering the similarity to when he previously did that
Contextually supported by him specifically speaking about that in his conditions of fighting Sukuna
I agree he's not, I have him 1-2 tiers below. Basic physical relativity =/= overall relativity.
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開発
サムザップ開発チーム一同
「福岡分校編」シナリオ監修瀬古浩司
制作協力：呪術廻戦製作委員会
集英社：
池田亮太 福田純也
片山達彦 村井佑梨羽
東宝：松谷浩明 稲垣豪 清水陽太郎
土居耕介 平川新吾 岩木啓祐
佐藤僚祐 馬場朱音
TOHO Global
原祐馬 川村洋一 松村杏奈
MAPPA
上田裕介
原作協力：週刊少年ジャンプ Weekly Shōnen Jump
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Translation from a friend:
Development: Sumzap Development Team
Scenario Supervision for "Fukuoka Branch School Arc"
Koji Seko
Production Cooperation: Jujutsu Kaisen Production Committee
Shueisha:
Ryota Ikeda, Junya Fukuda
Tatsuhiko Katayama, Yuriha Murai
Toho:Hiroaki Matsutani, Go Inagaki, Yotaro Shimizu
Kosuke Doi, Shingo Hirakawa, Keisuke Iwaki, Ryosuke Sato, Akane Baba
TOHO Global:
Yuma Hara, Yoichi Kawamura, Anna Matsumura
MAPPA:
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Original Work Cooperation:Weekly Shōnen Jump
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It's actually stated they're on the same tier without his CT if we take this entire statement at a face value. So Miguel with his CT domain like buff >= Blue Punch Gojo
cooked argumentNice way to ignore how much weaker Sukuna was yet Miguel's punches did nothing. Your argument for Miguel being god tier level CE physicals aint working gang.
Also yeah. Fun fact: Gojo holds back his punches
Like if you sit down for a second and think about it: We see how dagon doesn't get perception blitzed anymore when he gets the domain buff. In the Anime it's more impressive.Megumi with a incomplete DE went from being nearly one shotted and blitzed by the finger bearer to a even level with the finger bearer. You can see this in the manga. Anime might make it a lil clearer or not.
So ye. Domain buffs are big gang. Gojo was just that guy who for whatever reason (THERE IS a reason but shrug). And wow what is that? Gojo can put holes in Sukuna with just one punch???
Gojo after getting his CT back blitzes domain amped Sukuna in the first domain battle?? (it's stated CT burnout nerf, does nerf your CE control. Which, in other words means a nerf to output) the same gojo who without domain amp whilst suffering under nonstop injuries + ct burnout nerf + fighting whilst using rct full output on top of CE reinforcement (which even Sukuna noted that he can still easily move well) was pressing Sukuna??
2. It's quite literally never shown that he used red. In Canon you literally only see him use it twice in a "must do" moments. One in chapter 226. The other in chapter 229 where he wanted to one shot maho completely in one go. Keep in the mind that Sukuna is always using DA whenever he engages in a fight with gojo. Hand to hand and the like. It's implied he only turns it off when he's not throwing hands with gojo or the like.
In the second round Sukuna acts like this is the first time he got hit by red whilst he has DA
So no. Gojo did it with his bare hands. Blue Enhanced or not.
What? There's nothing here saying he thought Sukuna getting into flow would restore his domain. Why would Miguel know this. Infact contrary to what you think. MIGUEL was quite literally surprised to see Sukuna pull off a domain expansion
Idk how you can say that when you have him physically above gojo
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No? There's nothing contradictory to Blue Gojo>CT Miguel>Base Miguel~Base GojoIt's actually stated they're on the same tier without his CT if we take this entire statement at a face value. So Miguel with his CT domain like buff >= Blue Punch Gojo
That doesn't ignore it, I'm just saying Sukuna is consistently more durable than he is powerful, so Miguel having better strength/speed than Meguna and not doing severe damage to Nerfed Sukuna aren't contradictory
Also yeah. Fun fact: Gojo holds back his punches
Megumi with a incomplete DE went from being nearly one shotted and blitzed by the finger bearer to a even level with the finger bearer. You can see this in the manga. Anime might make it a lil clearer or not.
So ye. Domain buffs are big gang. Gojo was just that guy who for whatever reason (THERE IS a reason but shrug). And wow what is that? Gojo can put holes in Sukuna with just one punch???
Yes. DE is a notable amp but it's not as big an amp as you're making it out to be. Naobito was as you yourself said nerfed by missing an arm and we know sorcerers can get a physical boost with strong emotions with Yuta vs Geto, so you can't attribute his improved performance against the FB to only DE and nothing else. We see more directly in the Megumi vs Reggie fight that DE is a significant boost but it didn't make Megumi no diff Reggie or anything.
This is fair, though it could be a case of Gojo offguarding him in some way before he can use DA, cause the injury really is quite similar
You're missing the point, which is that he didn't want to fight Sukuna when he had his domain, he doesn't talk about anything else. Miguel was surprised after Yuji did the Black Flash rush, which was after Miguel told Larue to flee. Miguel has no reason to fear Sukuna's regular attacks based on what we saw, considering Sukuna quite literally has no strength/speed feats against Miguel (Miguel dodges or blocks all of Sukuna's punches and slashes, he quite literally takes zero damage)What? There's nothing here saying he thought Sukuna getting into flow would restore his domain. Why would Miguel know this. Infact contrary to what you think. MIGUEL was quite literally surprised to see Sukuna pull off a domain expansion
Gojo with Infinity + Blue + Red + Purple + Unlimited Void + RCT>>>Gojo with just punch and kick. Idk if you do Naruto scaling but it's like how Ay is in the same tier as KCM Naruto/Jonin Minato in raw speed, but as overall fighters they hard cliff him thanks to their jutsu
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? Nothing says that blue gojo > CT Miguel. Best you can go for is >=
Again, this is contradictory as hell.
Dude. You are blatantly ignoring the very large difference that no amount of "Yeah he is consistently more durable than he is powerful" is gonna work. I've already debunked how that makes no sense. You've got no evidence to make this assertion.
? Dude went REL with Sukuna there and had to surprise him, which Sukuna still reacted. This is not gojo level stats. You're just yapping to yap.
This nerfed Sukuna is several levels below himself
inconsistent argument. I'll take that as you not having a counter argument and that you're just yapping to yap. Thanks.
It actually IS as big as an amp that I'm making it to be. I implore you to reread Megumi vs second finger bearer and how large of a difference there is. Megumi got knocked out COLD.
That Naobito nerf only comes afterwards. Naobito was perception blitzing dagon, then Dagon went a speed level higher and knocked his ass away. The Anime shows it more impressively. Much faster than before.
???? Just a bunch of yap that you can't even prove to be related to this. He did not get a emotional amp. He had a enlightenment and unlocked DE. This was DE amp. Take it or leave it.
Reggie is simply just that guy. Next argument.
Uh no. This isn't supported at all. Gojo says as much in 228 that their only way of fighting is h2h DA. (For Sukuna that is) and we see that as much. Sukuna always uses DA whenever he interacts or fights with gojo with infinity on. Chapter 227. 228. 229.
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This translation supports it as much. And we even have feats for it. Not to mention, it would be very suspicious of Sukuna to turn it off whenever he's fighting Gojo as he would NOTICE. Which wouldn't be good for Sukuna's plan. Him for some reason turning it off whilst engaging in combat would be suspicious when gojo goes in for the hit. So he can only do this whenever THEY'RE not in combat, basically brief moments or the like. In chapter 229, before they begin their final domain expansion, we see Gojo and Sukuna in a "clash" of sorts, with his lunch being very close to his face which Sukuna is clearly holding. There is very much evidence and implications towards Sukuna using DA than him not using it. His face being torn apart like that comes after that particular panel. So no red.
Additionally. Compare this to chapter 226 red and the wound Sukuna took at 229 in the panel you showed, there is a clear difference of what is "scorch/burn marks" and a simple face being torn apart with the muscles of the face showing.
No. You're making UP points that isn't even supported by the narrative.
Everybody else there either thinks he's gonna regain his rct output. Maki knows this. Choso knows this. Yuji knows this. But they all also know what a BF does - you start getting into the zone and basically stronger. Output is being restored not just rct. It's also why Miguel says his momentum is on the rise because that's what a BF is about.
Nowhere IS it stated that he's afraid he'll regain his domain expansion. I have no idea as to how you think Miguel would supposedly know how to regain back your crippled domain from brain damage, which even nobody else knows when they know Sukuna is suffering brain damage. Sukuna only figured this out through multiple BF, which allowed him to figure one out and do it via binding vows + hand sign swapped.
Then Sukuna gets SURPRISED. Very shocked to see Sukuna pull off a DE. Is this the same guy you're saying that expected Sukuna to pull of a DE soon? Yeah your argument has little to no evidence and is just headcanon.
Funnily enough. Miguel doesn't only speak about no domain Sukuna, but a Sukuna that is also nerfed. They also observe his current state of injuries and note that: Heart missing, some limbs too, rct output garbage, etc. You're acting as if Miguel said he would fight 20F full health Sukuna with no domain
this is the craziest Miguel glaze I've ever seen. Which needs to fall off. Also. Sukuna's slashes and himself clearly got stronger. Sukuna and Miguel clearly exchange hands for one brief moment, Miguel goes back and spams his ability which not only buffs him but also debuffed Sukuna and yet he could do Jack shit.
This Gojo rival ain't allat. He couldn't even continue pressuring Sukuna or to prevent him from punching Larue despite being supposedly gojo level in stats. I'm ngl you're just arguing atp for agenda. Not sure if you can notice but Miguel is going relative to Sukuna in physicals but outperforms him after the buff and debuff, and if he was gojo level as you're making him to be then he'd simply ignore any of his attacks and punches and blitz and overpower him every single moment with no diff
that's how weakened Sukuna IS. Put adult gojo without blue or anything and he'd manhandle Sukuna without the latter being able to do any single scratch or overpower. He's just getting slapped up for free and blitzed every second.
Being gojo level would still make you a god tier which isn't even supported by the narrative. Again you're holding a very disingenuous premise.
But fine let's do a dissection of that statement.
I've previously went over this before and had some confusion [Before]
For starters, to explain my confusion. The narrator talks about Miguel's CT. How it improves his physical capabilities, by buffing himself. How he can debuff others too, their stats.
Gojo says it is pretty useful but not that scary.
Yuta asks him if it is dangerous to him.
Gojo goes off about him and Miguel in a 1vs1 fight no CT and only ce reinforcement and talks about who would win in skill.
This is where my confusion comes in - Yuta asked him if this was dangerous to him. But gojo responded with what to me looks like a whole different non related answer.
Gojo has his infinity. He can use domain expansion (something Miguel is afraid of), red to repell Miguel and blue to attract, etc. Even teleport. To me, Yuta's question is nonsense because Miguel can't bypass Gojo's infinity to threaten him with that CT to begin with, nor pose any danger to gojo at all who can unleash his DE.
But then gojo proceeds to exclude out Miguel's CT when that was the topic about whether it can pose danger to gojo or not, to talk about CE reinforcement contest in skill only.
There's a reasoning for these questions and confusion above that I presented.
Let's begin: Gojo's presenting a metric where Miguel would logically be a problem, which is H2H skill.
In the scenario where gojo is unable to use his CT, or his capacity to utilize CE for whatever reason is stifled, Miguel would be a threat. Because he’s a better offensive striker than gojo is, which is pretty bad for him. Because gojo utilizes defensive counter based styles into mostly relentless offense. If he’s fighting someone that does that BETTER than he does and he can’t just outstat or outhax Miguel, he's in trouble.
He’s referring to this in equivalent to his CT, because Miguel’s CT informs his fighting style.
So gojo's picking out the specific part of Miguel that would be a issue.
You might ask "Yeah but he says that without their CT in usage no?"
Yeah but Miguel’s Fighting style is influenced innately by the technique he was born with. So gojo's going to associate that as a part of Miguel.
The example of if whatever reason gojo is unable to out hax or completely outstat Miguel, gojo is in trouble.
Gojo is mentioning to Yuta a facet where Miguel would be dangerous for him. And that's literally just it.
You, for whatever reason assume this is a case where gojo is at full reinforcement. Even though all gojo is saying is that, Miguel is a better offensive striker and so if for whatever reason they were on a equal playing field, Gojo is screwed.
You for example might think that Gojo is saying Miguel as a whole is a issue. Which isn't true. Rather, he's mentioning a facet where Miguel is a threat, the part of Miguel that is dangerous under circumstances that stifled gojo in various aspects that I mentioned above.
If gojo meant that Miguel was 20F in stats which you are going with, he wouldn't refer to Miguel's skill specifically. He would just say "oh well Miguel has physicals on par with me". And the other context from manga is
“Miguel doesn’t want to box with a Flow state nerfed sukuna”
“Maybe he’s not on sukunas level“
Ik you might ask "How would you know he's referring to his skill specifically. He says physical contest with only CE reinforcement and says it comes down to their skill doesn't that mean their equal or relative"
The answer to that is: Because he mentions skill as the primary difference that makes Miguel a issue. If Miguel's physicals were a problem he'd just say “Well Miguel has equal stats to me”
Like bro, use context clues HERE.
Miguel can outskill sukuna whilst spamming his CT, but it does no damage. And he fears Sukuna once he gets into a flow state enough to run away even though it's a 4vs1.
What does that tell you?
He barely held off from a Vol 0 gojo and didn't land one hit on him, whilst getting hit with shit like wing chun beatdown and chased around. This was one eye concealed gojo too (it's stated that blindfold or the like dampen the power of six eyes) and a gojo very clearly holding back if it wasn't obvious.
What does that tell you?
Gojo thinks the issue is that Miguel is a more skilled striker than he is, but here Miguel is getting slapped around by Gojo.
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And he gets scared off by Sukuna the moment he goes into flow from one BF.
I'm sorry but Miguel is not a god tier physical stats guy on the level of Gojo. If he was he'd be bullying Sukuna with the nonstop blitzing and never allow him to perform one single DE with the sheer speed difference.
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? Nothing says that blue gojo > CT Miguel. Best you can go for is >=
Again, this is contradictory as hell.
Dude. You are blatantly ignoring the very large difference that no amount of "Yeah he is consistently more durable than he is powerful" is gonna work. I've already debunked how that makes no sense. You've got no evidence to make this assertion.
? Dude went REL with Sukuna there and had to surprise him, which Sukuna still reacted. This is not gojo level stats. You're just yapping to yap.
This nerfed Sukuna is several levels below himself
I'll take that as you not having a counter argument and that you're just yapping to yap. Thanks.
It actually IS as big as an amp that I'm making it to be. I implore you to reread Megumi vs second finger bearer and how large of a difference there is. Megumi got knocked out COLD.
That Naobito nerf only comes afterwards. Naobito was perception blitzing dagon, then Dagon went a speed level higher and knocked his ass away. The Anime shows it more impressively. Much faster than before.
???? Just a bunch of yap that you can't even prove to be related to this. He did not get a emotional amp. He had a enlightenment and unlocked DE. This was DE amp. Take it or leave it.
Reggie is simply just that guy. Next argument.
Uh no. This isn't supported at all. Gojo says as much in 228 that their only way of fighting is h2h DA. (For Sukuna that is) and we see that as much. Sukuna always uses DA whenever he interacts or fights with gojo with infinity on. Chapter 227. 228. 229.
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This translation supports it as much. And we even have feats for it. Not to mention, it would be very suspicious of Sukuna to turn it off whenever he's fighting Gojo as he would NOTICE. Which wouldn't be good for Sukuna's plan. Him for some reason turning it off whilst engaging in combat would be suspicious when gojo goes in for the hit. So he can only do this whenever THEY'RE not in combat, basically brief moments or the like. In chapter 229, before they begin their final domain expansion, we see Gojo and Sukuna in a "clash" of sorts, with his lunch being very close to his face which Sukuna is clearly holding. There is very much evidence and implications towards Sukuna using DA than him not using it. His face being torn apart like that comes after that particular panel. So no red.
Additionally. Compare this to chapter 226 red and the wound Sukuna took at 229 in the panel you showed, there is a clear difference of what is "scorch/burn marks" and a simple face being torn apart with the muscles of the face showing.
No. You're making UP points that isn't even supported by the narrative.
Everybody else there either thinks he's gonna regain his rct output. Maki knows this. Choso knows this. Yuji knows this. But they all also know what a BF does - you start getting into the zone and basically stronger. Output is being restored not just rct. It's also why Miguel says his momentum is on the rise because that's what a BF is about.
Nowhere IS it stated that he's afraid he'll regain his domain expansion. I have no idea as to how you think Miguel would supposedly know how to regain back your crippled domain from brain damage, which even nobody else knows when they know Sukuna is suffering brain damage. Sukuna only figured this out through multiple BF, which allowed him to figure one out and do it via binding vows + hand sign swapped.
Then Sukuna gets SURPRISED. Very shocked to see Sukuna pull off a DE. Is this the same guy you're saying that expected Sukuna to pull of a DE soon? Yeah your argument has little to no evidence and is just headcanon.
Funnily enough. Miguel doesn't only speak about no domain Sukuna, but a Sukuna that is also nerfed. They also observe his current state of injuries and note that: Heart missing, some limbs too, rct output garbage, etc. You're acting as if Miguel said he would fight 20F full health Sukuna with no domain
Also. Sukuna's slashes and himself clearly got stronger. Sukuna and Miguel clearly exchange hands for one brief moment, Miguel goes back and spams his ability which not only buffs him but also debuffed Sukuna and yet he could do Jack shit.
Not sure if you can notice but Miguel is going relative to Sukuna in physicals but outperforms him after the buff and debuff, and if he was gojo level as you're making him to be then he'd simply ignore any of his attacks and punches and blitz and overpower him every single moment with no diff
Put adult gojo without blue or anything and he'd manhandle Sukuna without the latter being able to do any single scratch or overpower. He's just getting slapped up for free and blitzed every second.
Being gojo level would still make you a god tier which isn't even supported by the narrative. Again you're holding a very disingenuous premise.
But fine let's do a dissection of that statement.
I've previously went over this before and had some confusion [Before]
For starters, to explain my confusion. The narrator talks about Miguel's CT. How it improves his physical capabilities, by buffing himself. How he can debuff others too, their stats.
Gojo says it is pretty useful but not that scary.
Yuta asks him if it is dangerous to him.
Gojo goes off about him and Miguel in a 1vs1 fight no CT and only ce reinforcement and talks about who would win in skill.
This is where my confusion comes in - Yuta asked him if this was dangerous to him. But gojo responded with what to me looks like a whole different non related answer.
Gojo has his infinity. He can use domain expansion (something Miguel is afraid of), red to repell Miguel and blue to attract, etc. Even teleport. To me, Yuta's question is nonsense because Miguel can't bypass Gojo's infinity to threaten him with that CT to begin with, nor pose any danger to gojo at all who can unleash his DE.
But then gojo proceeds to exclude out Miguel's CT when that was the topic about whether it can pose danger to gojo or not, to talk about CE reinforcement contest in skill only.
There's a reasoning for these questions and confusion above that I presented.
Let's begin: Gojo's presenting a metric where Miguel would logically be a problem, which is H2H skill.
In the scenario where gojo is unable to use his CT, or his capacity to utilize CE for whatever reason is stifled, Miguel would be a threat. Because he’s a better offensive striker than gojo is, which is pretty bad for him. Because gojo utilizes defensive counter based styles into mostly relentless offense. If he’s fighting someone that does that BETTER than he does and he can’t just outstat or outhax Miguel, he's in trouble.
He’s referring to this in equivalent to his CT, because Miguel’s CT informs his fighting style.
So gojo's picking out the specific part of Miguel that would be a issue.
You might ask "Yeah but he says that without their CT in usage no?"
Yeah but Miguel’s Fighting style is influenced innately by the technique he was born with. So gojo's going to associate that as a part of Miguel.
The example of if whatever reason gojo is unable to out hax or completely outstat Miguel, gojo is in trouble.
Gojo is mentioning to Yuta a facet where Miguel would be dangerous for him. And that's literally just it.
You, for whatever reason assume this is a case where gojo is at full reinforcement. Even though all gojo is saying is that, Miguel is a better offensive striker and so if for whatever reason they were on a equal playing field, Gojo is screwed.
You for example might think that Gojo is saying Miguel as a whole is a issue. Which isn't true. Rather, he's mentioning a facet where Miguel is a threat, the part of Miguel that is dangerous under circumstances that stifled gojo in various aspects that I mentioned above.
If gojo meant that Miguel was 20F in stats which you are going with, he wouldn't refer to Miguel's skill specifically. He would just say "oh well Miguel has physicals on par with me". And the other context from manga is
“Miguel doesn’t want to box with a Flow state nerfed sukuna”
“Maybe he’s not on sukunas level“
Ik you might ask "How would you know he's referring to his skill specifically. He says physical contest with only CE reinforcement and says it comes down to their skill doesn't that mean their equal or relative"
The answer to that is: Because he mentions skill as the primary difference that makes Miguel a issue. If Miguel's physicals were a problem he'd just say “Well Miguel has equal stats to me”
Like bro, use context clues HERE.
Miguel can outskill sukuna whilst spamming his CT, but it does no damage. And he fears Sukuna once he gets into a flow state enough to run away even though it's a 4vs1.
What does that tell you?
He barely held off from a Vol 0 gojo and didn't land one hit on him, whilst getting hit with shit like wing chun beatdown and chased around. This was one eye concealed gojo too (it's stated that blindfold or the like dampen the power of six eyes) and a gojo very clearly holding back if it wasn't obvious.
What does that tell you?
Gojo thinks the issue is that Miguel is a more skilled striker than he is, but here Miguel is getting slapped around by Gojo.
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And he gets scared off by Sukuna the moment he goes into flow from one BF.
I'm sorry but Miguel is not a god tier physical stats guy on the level of Gojo. If he was he'd be bullying Sukuna with the nonstop blitzing and never allow him to perform one single DE with the sheer speed difference.
How is it even possible for one person to yap this much
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Anyway I came here to say that Awakened teen Gojo slams Shinjuku Yuta
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Me when Gojo is hypersonic while Yuta is only supersonic.
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Yeah Miguel ain't Gojo level. Sukuna had brain damage, was missing his arms, took several of Yuji's soul punches and the full brunt of Jacob's Ladder then had his heart stabbed through by the Split Soul Katana. Miguel was buffing himself, nerfing Sukuna and punched Sukuna directly in his chest wound, that should've been a one-shot or at least a critical hit right there if Miguel = Gojo but Sukuna ate it. Make Choso's Piercing Blood or Kusakabe equal to Gojo's punches at that point.
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Man Teen Gojo is the most wanked character in this verse, people really believe he blitzed Toji and that never happened and it was with Blue
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I mean, Gojo did blitz him with Hollow Purple. Are people saying Toji got blitzed with Blue or Red?
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Agreed, he still slams Yuta tho
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Nah, gets stomped by Yuta. Like, that's kinda obvious, unless you're baiting.
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Nah I'm not. Yuta has no way of bypassing infinty aside from domains sure hit and Gojo can just one shot him with Purple
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This Gojo's Infinity is based on reaction and it's not automatic. He does not have a Domain and his only anti-Domain technique does not prevent him from being hit, just weakens the sure hit. Yuta knows Purple, he actually knows how to perform it by himself, since well, Gojuta happened. Yuta won't let him use Purple, and he stats gap this Gojo.
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And this Gojo can consistently react to Toji so Yuta sure as hell ain't getting past infinity
Even so Jacobs Ladder wouldn't be an instant gg anyway
Knowing Purple doesn't really do anything for him here. It only takes one hand movement to perform and could blitz Toji despite his super senses
He really doesn't aside from striking strength which doesn't even matter since again Purple one shots
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So he blitzes with Blue? I don't see the issue.
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Issue he’s trying to bring up is that people make it seem like it’s his physical reactions and speed and not just blue that lets him move that fast
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Its like we don't agree with the literal profiles WE worked on. Ya switch positions all the time. Toji did not keep up with his movements, Toji looked to the rigth AFTER Gojo already moved and the anime shows this better.
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It's not just Yuta, it's both Yuta and Rika attacking from different angles at the same time, while Dhruv's shikigamis can bypass Infinity, and there's multiple of them. The moment Yuta opens his Domain, Infinity is done for.
It doesn't need to be. Deactivating his CT and letting this Gojo with only CE reinforcement is enough. He doesn't have any feats anyway. Will get cooked.
Of course it does, he knows it's hard to pull off, he saw adult Gojo having difficulty to pull it off against Sukuna, he himself was prevented by Sukuna from pulling it off. Gojo never blitzed Toji, pay attention, Toji clearly kept up with him.
Superior striking strength and dutability, the moment Gojo tries to engage in hand to hand he gets cooked. Your win condition for Gojo is his ultimate move that can be prevented if Yuta and Rika presses him, or literally just spam any CT.
That's the thing, he doesn't blitz with Blue. Never did.
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