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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

The brain can only hold so many techniques. It's possible Kenjaku just didn't think it was worth it to keep and trashed it or he's swapped bodies so many times after that that it couldn't stick
I mean... idk. He has Kaori's Gravity, Geto's Cursed Spirit Manipulation AND his own. Plus with his fantastic utilization of Cursed Energy and the body/soul. I'm guessing he decided not to use it cus he wanted to see other people's utilization of it?
 
Like, I won’t even argue this if someone tries to answer, but ****, Yuji’s kit is so bad dude.

His Shrine is predictable, slow and has low-output.

He cannot do anything relevant with Blood Manipulation, no Convergence, no Piercing Blood, no Supernova, no Flowing Red Scale. Heck, Kamo was able to make a blood shield to protect him from Naoya.

Yuji’s BM kit is around reattach limbs and poison people, even then that’s useless because anyone with RCT can heal from it.

His DE is absolutely dogshit, featsless, barrier of the size of the Vegas’s Sphere.
Inb4 anime makes him a god with his kit and utilization of it.
 
I mean... idk. He has Kaori's Gravity, Geto's Cursed Spirit Manipulation AND his own. Plus with his fantastic utilization of Cursed Energy and the body/soul. I'm guessing he decided not to use it cus he wanted to see other people's utilization of it?
Kaori and Geto's were his latest bodies and we didn't see any others apart from his base technique. It's possible it just keeps the most recent ones based on that and anything from before gets naturally lost or he removes them to not literally fry his brain
 
Like, I won’t even argue this if someone tries to answer, but ****, Yuji’s kit is so bad dude.

His Shrine is predictable, slow and has low-output.

He cannot do anything relevant with Blood Manipulation, no Convergence, no Piercing Blood, no Supernova, no Flowing Red Scale. Heck, Kamo was able to make a blood shield to protect him from Naoya.

Yuji’s BM kit is around reattach limbs and poison people, even then that’s useless because anyone with RCT can heal from it.

His DE is absolutely dogshit, featsless, barrier of the size of the Vegas’s Sphere.
This is what happens when you get your full kit in the last like 20 chapters and have only had them ranging from a month to like a few days tops.
 
Don't think so. This is kinda inconsistent to argue as a wincon, as much as we wanna hype up BF, it doesn't have the ap feats to be a win con within the top 5. All of them can rct for one, all of them have comparable physicals to Yuji or outright better and have hit bf on their own or have ways of countering a bf hit like Yuta's spatial manip or Kenjaku just putting a cs in front.
I am aware that his isn't a reliable wincon against someone like Kenny or Yuta (I even told M3X that Yuta beats Yuji offsite), which is why in my post I said that he'd be below them
only behind the honored ones, Kenny and Yuta

And also this. Yuki’s DE was stated to be able to do better than her SD did against Kenjaku’s DE.
Yea because DEs are innately better than simple domains not because Yuki has some top level DE
Yuji’s DE is featless as well, what’s the difference between his and Yuki’s? None of them clashed against another DE.
We know his has a lethal sure hit which according to Tengen inherently take a lot of refinment
Having Kusakabe training his body with barrier techniques doesn’t mean much, DEs are on a completely different level than a regular Simple Domain.
He also has Sukuna's muscle memory
Yuki, Uro and Ryu had years and years of experience with their DE, Yuji casted his DE once, Sukuna called it half-assed and we know it’s indeed half-assed given the size of the barrier.

If anything Yuji should lose the clash of DEs to anyone with a regular sized barrier.
I actually don't remember why the size of the DE matters
 
Like, I won’t even argue this if someone tries to answer, but ****, Yuji’s kit is so bad dude.

His Shrine is predictable, slow and has low-output.
I think people take the low output statement too far. It's low output in comparison to Sukuna's Shrine but it could still harm him and he can make it especially effective against reincarnated people
He cannot do anything relevant with Blood Manipulation, no Convergence, no Piercing Blood, no Supernova, no Flowing Red Scale. Heck, Kamo was able to make a blood shield to protect him from Naoya.
I only remembered this after finishing the post but Yuji did use PB from offscreen ti save Higi from Sukuna. Choso was down at this time so he wouldn't have been able to help him
Yuji’s BM kit is around reattach limbs and poison people, even then that’s useless because anyone with RCT can heal from it.
It's outright stated that most people with RCT can't heal from poisons since they'd need to filter it out first
 
Yuji doesn't have the unique physiology of a Death Painting like Choso, Eso and Kechizu do
He gained it after absorbing the 6 brothers
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I am aware that his isn't a reliable wincon against someone like Kenny or Yuta (I even told M3X that Yuta beats Yuji offsite), which is why in my post I said that he'd be below them
Then who is he beating in the top 5? Not Gojo, not Sukuna, not Kenjaku, not Yuta, and not Yuki. He can maybe at best win against Kashimo or Maki or whomever you might have in 6th.
 
He can maybe at best win against Kashimo or Maki or whomever you might have in 6th.
Finally you’re realizing he’s not that untouchable in the top 5.

Yorozu, Maki and Kashimo are definitely hard match-ups to him.
 
Then who is he beating in the top 5? Not Gojo, not Sukuna, not Kenjaku, not Yuta, and not Yuki.
I'd say he wins against Yuki more often than not. Yuki has more raw power and Garuda but Yuji has better overall stats, has better CQC skills, can survive any hit from Star Rage that isn't straight to the head and there's always the threat of BF streak
He can maybe at best win against Kashimo or Maki or whomever you might have in 6th.
He destroys Kashimo and beats Maki pretty solidly too
 
I only remembered this after finishing the post but Yuji did use PB from offscreen ti save Higi from Sukuna. Choso was down at this time so he wouldn't have been able to help him
That was not him.
Its speculated by Sukuna to be Choso and we later learn Yuji can’t use convergence on his own anyway.
It won’t make sense for Yuji to run all the way back to where Higuruma originally used his domain just to pick up a glob of blood from a downed Choso just to run back to Higuruma who he was supposed to be guarding
 
Finally you see how fraudulent his ass is

You know I've been thinking and I've come to the realisation that MBA Kashimo is ass and doesn't deserve to be anywere near the top 5 or even top 7.

He has no scaling aside from beating up half dead Sukuna, he has no domain, no RCT, his technique is ass (all of his shit got either dodged or tanked by said half dead Sukuna) and to put the cherry on top of this sorry excuse for a top tier his own technique kills him. Like he'd arguably do worse against Hakari than he did in his base form because he would be fighting an immortal while on a time limit.

Edo period must have been just utter dogshit if this bum was the Gojo or Sukuna of his era.
I've been preaching how fraudulent he is for a while
 
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Yorozu, Maki and Kashimo are definitely hard match-ups to him.
His best bet is probably Kashimo ngl. Yorozu's bug armor speed is too much for him to land anything.

I'd say he wins against Yuki more often than not. Yuki has more raw power and Garuda but Yuji has better overall stats, has better CQC skills, can survive any hit from Star Rage that isn't straight to the head and there's always the threat of BF streak
Garuda wrapping around Yuji is a death sentence honestly, he doesn't have the rct skill to keep coming back from her one shots and Garuda weighing him down will definitely allow her to land a punch to his head. And Yuji really doesn't have better cqc. Cqc in the verse for the majority of high tiers is really unquantifiable, everyone's either really comparable or they edge out due to their ct being useful.

Also Yuji's feats during BF spam shouldn't factor in when you're considering how a fight would go down. At the start Yuji's gonna be the same character who was getting outperformed by everyone else there.
 
Yorozu doesn't start off with the bug armor. By the time she uses it, it will be too late. Yuji just needs to hit her 3-4 times
 
She literally goes into it early on in their fight. And that's funny to say when it takes Yuji far longer to hit one bf.
Yeah, because she was fighting Sukuna. Yuji doesnt need to hit her with a blackflash lol

Your headcanon. You don’t know how much each attack from Yuji decreases the output and body control.

If we go by Sukuna then Yuji would need a couple dozens of hit.
Comparing Sukuna to Yorozu doesn't make sense. Not only is his soul stronger than hers, but he also took specific measures to ensure that Megumi's soul could never regain control.
 
Comparing Sukuna to Yorozu doesn't make sense. Not only is his soul stronger than hers, but he also took specific measures to ensure that Megumi's soul could never regain control.
Then we don’t know by how much he weakens the output and soul control, so saying that only C amount of hits would do the job is headcanon.
 
Garuda wrapping around Yuji is a death sentence honestly,
He could probably just use Shrine to cut Garuda up
he doesn't have the rct skill to keep coming back from her one shots
Do I need to show you the scans of him getting his whole side destroyed by cleave and RCTing again. What about him getting his whole body shredded by MS and instantly reattaching
And Yuji really doesn't have better cqc. Cqc in the verse for the majority of high tiers is really unquantifiable, everyone's either really comparable or they edge out due to their ct being useful.
Pretty much every time a fight comes down to hands Yuji had the advantage (Todo, Choso, Mahito). CQC was the only thing he could do for nost of the series so he is obviously pretty good at it.
Also Yuji's feats during BF spam shouldn't factor in when you're considering how a fight would go down.
It's still something he can pull of far more consistently than basically everyone else in the verse
At the start Yuji's gonna be the same character who was getting outperformed by everyone else there.
I don't really get what you mean here. Yuji still retained things like Shrine, his DE and to a certain extend better CE refinement after the fight
 
I also don't get why you guys are so against Yuji using BF as a wincon. To put it into perspective, out of the 7 major fights Yuji has had since unlocking the move he has landed it in 4 of them. That's a higher than not chance of him landing BF and 2 of the times he didn't do it barely even count because he was either holding back (against Yuta) or straight up didn't have CE to use (against Higuruma)
 
Because it’s luck and you’re arguing that luck will happen.
Sure it's luck but Yuji is depicted as exceptionally lucky when it comes to BF, again greater than not chance. Using competitive Pokémon terms here because I'm a big nerd, if you are facing Thunderus-T who has Focus Blast you aren't going to send in your Ferrothorn to check it because while FB only has 70% accuracy it is still very possible for it to land and if it does you will get dumpstered
 
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