Arkenis
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That was my main issue, don't care about this other stuff if its not about that.
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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EldemadeDityjon
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It’s more like Yuji was damaging the boundary between Sukuna and Megumi, thus weakening Sukuna's CE output.
When Sukuna landed the 5th BF, he couldn’t create an RCT circuit like Gojo, so he went for DE (as stated in the narrative).
When Sukuna landed the 6th and 7th BFs, he regained his RCT, which suggests that after two consecutive BFs, he might have got the hang of the RCT circuit at that point.
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Sukuna doesn't need many BFs to regain his output is the most simple answer. His issue was that Yuji kept resetting his progress anytime he made it. So by the end, when it's a 1v1, Sukuna's able to effectively fend Yuji off without losing his output in time to utilize RCT.
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He didn't instantly regain it despite hitting like 4?, but later on after more onslaughts he regains it with just 2, I think that's the issue he's citing and I personally find it dumb too
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It was said by the narrator he would've regained it with the 4th but Yuji started chaining his 7 black flashes and it canceled it so he had to suffice with just DE for the time being. Then Yuji hits maybe 1 black flash after that but Sukuna hits 2 more and it lets him get RCT back. Basically it's just quantity of black flashes hitting him that's counteracting his BFs which makes sense
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You don't see the problem?
He needed 2 after being more badly wounded and nerfed worse but couldn't get it up after 4 in a relatively better state
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I don't really see the issue cause 4 would've given him DE AND RCT but cause of Yuji hitting a whole 7 BFs he only got DE. Yuji only hits one more BF after that and honestly going through what he was going against after the DE, the worst thing he took at that time was a half-working hollow purple and that one BF from Yuji. Maybe Jacobs Ladder but that thing was weak and did practically nothing and other than that it was just normal attacks from Yuji. I really don't see why hitting 2 BFs and getting RCT back is incomprehensible.
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DE doesn't matter here it was under different circumstances, RCT is more basic and he still wasn't able to achieve it with 4, he then went on to get hit 8 Times by Yuji's Black Flash plus all the other things you mentioned and after all this needed just 2 BFs for whatever reason.
If it were that easy for him he could just have restored his RCT before his 3rd and 4th Black Flash as he was in a much better condition to do so and Yuji hadn't wailed on him yet with Soul Splitting Black Flashes but he didn't
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The BFs were how he got back DE and RCT so yes it does matter in this case.
The way both Gojo and Sukuna got RCT back through BFs was by figuring out how to rewire their brain to get a different part of it to use it cause the old ones were burned out. The BFs themselves and entering the 120% zone they put you in is how they were able to do this. The 4 was able to put him in the zone long enough to get his DE up which is likely what he was prioritizing cause it's his best chance at ending the fight quickly and he would've gotten RCT with the 4th if he had enough time afterwards to figure out how to but Yuji's attacks stopped him.
The way I see it, it's like a progress meter essentially where both of them would have to move over anything they use for RCT onto another part of the brain. After his 4th black flash he was probably rewiring his brain but then Yuji hit his BFs and it stopped the bar from moving. Then he hits another on Todo, he starts it up again but Yuji uses soul dismantle and it stops it. Then he hits the one after that and Yuji wasn't able to get anything major off except for a single punch and it let him finish the bar and get RCT back.
The point I'm trying to make is, it isn't easy. It needs time as well as the zone created by BFs and the immediate output increase to help support it but Yuji just kept canceling it's progress.
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Kashimo did way better after all
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Giannysmag
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amped Yuji was getting bullied by a sukuna that couldnt dodge a supersonic attack.. But youre right, he surely would hit faster than a speed of light beamLashimo after one soul splitting Black Flash from Yuji
Giannysmag
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*Couldn't dodge a supersonic attack when it was fired centimeters away from his face and Yuji was literally clinging on to him
He aimdodges it and punches him out. Also Kashimo both in base and MBA starts out with CQC in which he is getting destroyed
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Still the same shit lol, he couldnt dodge a supersonic attack
Tell yuji to "aimdodge" his lightning strikes then lmao, and if the lightning doenst cuts yujis head off, he blitzes him with em waves anyways lol
Also, canonically, yuji wont start landing a BF, as its pure lucky
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Em waves don't meet the standards so it cant be assumed to move at speed of light 🗣
Giannysmag
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Whatever helps you sleep at night
Hakari could dodge it, Yuji definately could as well
He will still be lowering Kashimo's output with every hit he lands making those emws you love so much way less powerful
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Yes, a amped yuji could barely keep up with a sukuna that couldnt dodge a supersonic attack but suddenly he would 100% land every hit on kashimo and dodge MHS+ and SoL attacks..
Yuji isnt reacting to his lightnings neither his em waves ( which would instantly vaporize him btw )
Also, kashimo would instantly stop yuji with his sonic waves, the same sonic waves that he used and effectively worked on a way stronger sukuna, so yea, dont see how yuji has a chance here
EldemadeDityjon
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- That PB had no set speed value
- Also Sukuna face seemed like he didn't cared.
Kashimo either gets poisoned or cleaved before he can place a charge. LMAO
Yuji would dodge sonic beam like Sukuna did.
I'm a Kashimo Glazer but EOS Yuji cooks him
Giannysmag
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EM waves are truly the worst thing to happen to JJK powerscaling
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We don't even know how powerful are these EM waves. If its just as powerful as a punch or if its as strong as his lightning is completly subjective lol
EldemadeDityjon
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Kashimo shouldn't scale to Sukuna's speed who cut EMW with WCS. Heck I don't see anyone scaling to full speed of that version of Sukuna. He was faster than others he gets cooked after Yuji , Yuta and Rika teamed up and limited his options for run around.
Giannysmag
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I will never forgive Gregorious for not giving us a Heian Era flashback
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Yes, actually, is likely even worse and slower than the casual one, as its stated that yuji cant control blood that good,
And how he didnt cared lmao? He literally was about to cleave yuji but that PB made him drop yuji lol
MBA kashimo can nearly instantly discharge his lightning, look at chapter 237
Also, how would he dodge the sonic beam if he could barely keep up with a sukuna that LITERALLY COULDNT DODGE A SUPERSONIC ATTACK
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Well, sukuna ( who is sukuna lol ) made sure that he doesnt get hit by them for a reason
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Kashimo glaze in big 2024? Lord have mercy
EldemadeDityjon
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Read the chapter again. It was not Yuji who created that PB compression. It was Choso. Yuji just fired it that's all. So obviously it's not the slowest or slow. It should be considerably faster than baseline
Look at Sukuna's face
There is a difference between attack speed and combat speed. Kashimo has no reaction feats for scaling to his EMW so doesn't matter. Yuji aim dodges it same like Sukuna did.
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It should be considerably faster" Says who? Tell me a single reason why It should, its litrrally made from choso lmao
Bro.. sukuna was literally about to cleave yujis chest but then he gets blitzed by PB and that made him drop yuji, he doesnt react to the PB at all
He still outscales yuji in every aspect of speed, not to mention that kashimo literaly dodges WCS who cuts through his emwaves...
And i dont see why you think yuji is somehow doing the same things that sukuna does, chap 238 sukuna is massively above yuji, and sukuna is capable of aimdodging the emwaves only because he can foresee the sparks of CE..
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Sukuna gave that man an advance warning before firing it and Kashimo still lost half of his hand
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Is comedian of takaba passive or not ? Seem like takaba didn't realize kenjaku's attack at first but it still had no effect on him . Does that make comedian better defense than infinity ?
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It is passive. It saved angel and Hana for just being around them
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Everyone but Gojo (somehow still the exception even in death) gets an advanced warning for WCS. Only Maki actually avoided itSukuna gave that man an advance warning before firing it and Kashimo still lost half of his hand
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So , no one in jjk can actually harm him but comedian cant kill either . Does that make him in top 1 or tie with top 1
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No, Takaba HIMSELF doesn't want to kill. He himself is the Pacifist. Comedian is just Beyond Broken. Its basically like the Visionary from Bleach, just "nerfed" Quotes on the user.
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Takaba is in a tier all on his own. And that tier is the top of the verse. I mean that seriously
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If he had even the Slightest bit of aggression/bloodlust...
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I think he's talking about the fact Sukuna literally tells him to dodge when he casts it where with others he just goes straight for it.
Yuji fired piercing blood point blank, literally centimeters from his face, and even in that time he still managed to turn his head so that it only hit his cheek, so yes Sukuna was able to react to it.
Sukuna consistently dodges or blocks piercing bloods before that chapter, hell he dodged one in that chapter too from like half a meter away. The only reason he didn't fully dodge that one was cause it was practically touching his head
