Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Yasuda_144]

Gojo was holding back for that entire fight, and he was clearly much more pissed when he crushed Hanami compared to just throwing casual punches around.

Also, in context it definitely isn't referring to "without reinforcement", because the exact statement is that if Jogo took the barrage of attacks that Hanami more or less shrugged off, he'd die. Part of that is a stamina/endurance thing but Jogo is hardly a slouch in that department either so it's very notable that he'd take that much damage.

 

[Arkenis]

You mean Sukuna might not have been nerfed in the beginning arguments.

Isn't that's just LS?

Nah, she didn't lift it, although her armor seems to have been destroyed so I'd say at most she downscales to 100 tons to be generous.

 

[Arkenis]

No more like why is Yuji scaling ehen this ****** him up massively

Genuinely have no idea why we scale Yuji or even Maki to it. At best it could be Yuji was off guard and got destroyed

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

No more like why is Yuji scaling ehen this ****** him up massively

Genuinely have no idea why we scale Yuji or even Maki to it. At best it could be Yuji was off guard and got destroyed

Wasn't this has something to do with Yuji got stronger after that.

 

[Yasuda_144]

Yuji can easily take 10% Sukuna's Cleaves/Dismantles though, but that's probably a point of evidence for Sukuna's physicals being less nerfed than his CT anyway.

 

[Arkenis]

Wasn't this has something to do with Yuji got stronger after that.

Got stronger and still did nothing to Sukuna.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Got stronger and still did nothing to Sukuna.

He did
Took hits from him later onwards and Damaged Sukuna. Even able to Overpower him with his LS and Sukuna needed to use his skills to fight back.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

No more like why is Yuji scaling ehen this ****** him up massively

Because what ****** him up was Sukuna's punch, not the impact against the buliding

 

[Arkenis]

He did
Took hits from him later onwards and Damaged Sukuna. Even able to Overpower him with his LS and Sukuna needed to use his skills to fight back.

Bruh. He did not damage Sukuna and LS means nothing for ap. You are using up your straws.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Bruh. He did not damage Sukuna and LS means nothing for ap. You are using up your straws.

Looks like the face of someone who tanked Yuji's hits without any damage. Your Yuji hate is just all over the place that's all.

 

[Arkenis]

Looks like the face of someone who tanked Yuji's hits without any damage. Your Yuji hate is just all over the place that's all.

Not even hate for Yuji since this would effect other characters as well. And this mediocre punch is not what we should be saying scales Yuji to Sukuna's feat.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Impressive how people try the biggest mental gymnastic when comes to JJK, where something as simple as "my punch made you bleed lol" can't be used for scaling

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Not even hate for Yuji since this would effect other characters as well.And this mediocre punch is not what we should be saying scales Yuji to Sukuna's feat.

That mediocre punch is able to damage Sukuna that's more than enough to scale him to that.
Also SS = Durability that's how it's treated. Sukuna's durability would scale to his SS.
Yuji damaging Sukuna's durability mean he scales to that attack.

We are talking about Sukuna who has better durability feats than his striking strength in the series.

 

[Arkenis]

Also SS = Durability that's how it's treated. Sukuna's durability would scale to his SS

We are talking about Sukuna who has better durability feats than his striking strength.

Think we're done here.

 

[Arkenis]

Anyway, I'll leave it at it being likely Yuji scales than a definitive rating.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Think we're done here.

Yeah we are done

Durability

Durability is the property which guarantees the ability to withstand a certain amount of force. Withstanding force consists of the measurement of the severity of damage from attacks. This is not to be confused with endurance; while durability is the ability to withstand damage, endurance is a...

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When durability is being discussed, this is especially relevant. If a character can physically attack with a certain level of Attack Potency, showing no sign of pain from said physical attack should be cause for their Durability scaling to their Attack Potency. This is because the character would be forced to withstand a force equal in magnitude to it, and withstanding such a force means the two would be comparable to one another.

 

[Gokukid2005]

Yuji shrine (cleave) output displayed better feats than Yuta's shrine (cleave) output.

Yuji's shrine does the same less damage to a weaker Sukuna?
SHOCKING!

 

[Shmooply]

Nobody should scale to Yuji since he my goat. Your CRT shall now be closed.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yuji's shrine does the same less damage to a weaker Sukuna?
SHOCKING!

Yeah real less Damage in Question

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Nobody should scale to Yuji since he my goat. Your CRT shall now be closed.

Just delete his profile fr.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Because what ****** him up was Sukuna's punch, not the impact against the buliding

Dumbass it’s the punch that does the feat

 

[M3X_2.0]

Yuji's shrine does the same less damage to a weaker Sukuna?
SHOCKING!

Yeah it’s insane how Elde always try to wank Yuji

Like bro everyone knows his CT output ******* sucks you don’t need to compare that with anyone else’s output.

It just sucks.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I guess Jujustu high could have won easily against Sukuna with Laure helping them + Higuruma domain death sentence

Don't seem like Sukuna had any counters against this.

 

[Shmooply]

Miguel and Laure would of easily stomped Sukuna if they just jumped him fo' real fo' real!!

 

[M3X_2.0]

Higuruma said Sukuna would’ve easily killed him the moment someone strong appeared to help hit with the Executioner Sword.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Dumbass it’s the punch that does the feat

So? The impact that Itadori had against the building that matters, and he didn't took damage from that

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Higuruma said Sukuna would’ve easily killed him the moment someone strong appeared to help hit with the Executioner Sword.

Sukuna didn't know about Laure ability so

 

[M3X_2.0]

So? The impact that Itadori had against the building that matters, and he didn't took damage from that

The impact caused by the punch

Holy shit are you for real now? Did you suddenly forgot how this shit works?

 

[M3X_2.0]

The feat is from Sukuna. It’s Sukuna who destroys the building with a casual punch.

Yuji did not take damage from that? How about the fact that he wakes up from being KOed? Or that the punch who performed the 8-A completely ****** him up?

Hello are people actually this dumb?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

The impact caused by the punch

That doesn't matter. The only notable part that was damaged was his stomach, where Sukuna's punch connected. Itadori being thrown backwards is just a side effect
He didnt took damage from the impact against the bulding
He took damage from the punch
Thats common sense

Also, we scale Denji (using "at most") to a feat which he died just because his body wasnt completly destroyed

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Yuji did not take damage from that? How about the fact that he wakes up from being KOed?

Yeah, the punch KOed him, not him hitting the bulding lol

 

[M3X_2.0]

That doesn't matter. The only notable part that was damaged was his stomach, where Sukuna's punch connected. Itadori being thrown backwards is just a side effect
He didnt took damage from the impact against the bulding
He toom damage from the punch
Thats common sense

Also, we scale Denji (using "at most") to a feat which he died just because his body wasnt completly destroyed

It DOES matter. It’s LITERALLY what matters. The punch has 8-A energy. The punch ****** up Itadori. He did take damage from the impact. He woke up moments later.

He took damage from the same punch that is the source of the 8-A feat.

**** Denji and the Chainsaw Man manga I don’t care at all about what they do.

Yeah, the punch KOed him, not him hitting the bulding lol

Yeah dude THE PUNCH THAT PERFORMED THE 8-A FEAT DID THAT

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

It DOES matter.

It does not

The punch has 8-A energy.

The impact against the bulding

The punch ****** up Itadori

Thats right, not the building being destroyed with Itadori's body

He took damage from the same punch that is the source of the 8-A feat.

The feat which is just a side effect

 

[Shmooply]

This site got so many geniuses...

 

[Ped2018]

LOK is right, **** M3X

 

[M3X_2.0]

It does not

It does. Stop pretending to be dumb. You know it does.

The impact against the bulding

Caused by the punch that ****** him up.

Thats right, not the building being destroyed with Itadori's body

Then he cannot scale to the feat because he cannot take the punch.

The feat which is just a side effect

Caused by the punch that ****** him over.

 

[M3X_2.0]

LOK is right, **** M3X

Yeah right just like all his calcs that we had to remove because he cannot do basic math.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I will make a last comment since I don't even do JJK scaling long time ago
Itadori got KOed before flying away, throwing up blood, the building getting destroyed with Itadori's body is irrelevant. The 8-A energy that comes from the fragmentation of the building didn't affected in any shape or form his body, his head, arms, legs, and everything that didn't connected with Sukuna's punch is just fine. The punch is the source of the feat, but the feat itself is just a side effect. If Itadori's dura wasn't near the level of the fragmentation of the building, he would have blown up by the impact
Not only that, but after some seconds he could wake up just fine, despiste being hit offguard (which is something noted to lower the dura), and fight Sukuna

 

[Duedate8898]

Gotta ask, since Ryu's L7C calc isn't useable anymore that's one less support for L7C. The main L7C that we scale people to is Gojo's powering of a nation. I don't think we should be scaling numerous characters to Gojo's output even if its based on an every second output. Gojo's usage of ce in any instance is significantly superior to other sorcerers, we know this through the fact Gojo's ce manipulation is greater than others as he can manipulate it at an atomic level, considers Yuta's manipulation sloppy and all over the place meaning in any instance Yuta's output would be inferior to Gojo's. Secondly, Cyrus sees numerous other sorcerers fighting like Sukuna, but he singles out Gojo's ce use for powering the nation, it doesn't make sense that now others can output similar energy every second even if they are high tiers. Smallest point but there's also Nanami telling Yuji not to compare himself to Gojo, as Gojo's able to land critical hits like regular jabs meaning Gojo's casual strikes are something no one can do.

Actually this does make me ask, have we still not calcuated ultimate mechimaru's feats? Or Cursed Spirit and Normal Naoya's AP feats? I'm sure they're more like tier 8, but it'd still be nice to have those set up as they were some visually impressive physical feats.

 

[Ped2018]

Yeah right just like all his calcs that we had to remove because he cannot do basic math.

Chill, back in 2020, he was the only one willing to calc stuff