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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Giannysmag said:
Hitting a BF does increase someones skill and control over CE but i don't think that's what you mean, either way I conceded that it's probably concentration rather than skill but it still it's not just luck like you said
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As long as it isn’t rated as skill/intel it’s fine.
 
Giannysmag said:
Against Yuta he was actively holding back and wanting to die,
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Bro wouldn't even see them coming, he'd get hit by a random sphere look down realize he needs to rct and then see space being ripped open from above and not understand why. And this would be the third time he felt feat too.
 
I still believe Gege did Yuji dirty even with a DE.

I don’t understand why he spent the whole manga without a CT, it makes absolutely no sense. The manga was finished and he ended up with a low-output Shrine, he cannot do anything with his Blood Manipulation that isn’t exploding blood and reattach limbs (which is very circumstantial).

What bothered me the most about how Gege dealt with Yuji is how he contradicted himself when he says Yuji potential is high as ****, equal to Sukuna’s, but in practice he’s dumb as ****, Ino level. Learn RCT and SD by himself? No, let others engrave this technique in his body. Develop Convergence to use the full potential of Blood Manipulation? No, even with two BM users he couldn’t do it.

Yeah that’s too much for one month of training, but that’s entirely Gege’s fault. Yuji could’ve developed BM way before SS arc and developed a few different techniques like SD or anything else by his own.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
I still believe Gege did Yuji dirty even with a DE.

I don’t understand why he spent the whole manga without a CT, it makes absolutely no sense. The manga was finished and he ended up with a low-output Shrine, he cannot do anything with his Blood Manipulation that isn’t exploding blood and reattach limbs (which is very circumstantial).

What bothered me the most about how Gege dealt with Yuji is how he contradicted himself when he says Yuji potential is high as *, equal to Sukuna’s, but in practice he’s dumb as *, Ino level. Learn RCT and SD by himself? No, let others engrave this technique in his body. Develop Convergence to use the full potential of Blood Manipulation? No, even with two BM users he couldn’t do it.

Yeah that’s too much for one month of training, but that’s entirely Gege’s fault. Yuji could’ve developed BM way before SS arc and developed a few different techniques like SD or anything else by his own.
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M3X_2.0 said:
I think Yuji was neglected by Gege. Rather than showing Yuji training and getting stuff like RCT midway through the manga showing his potential and capabilities, Gege decided to buildup a lot of stuff that ended up being irrelevant.
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I wouldn't say that you're wrong, but I'll still cut Gege some slack given his health issues and possibly some of the "fandom"

Arkenis said:
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Toji protected the cursed spirit wth. He's so real
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True! Some extra notes mention that he raised/trained that spirit like a pet and that little bit always sounded interesting 🤔
 
I thought he can't do anything that needs Convergence with Blood Manipulation (Example Piercing Blood). Either way I completely agree with your other statements.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
I still believe Gege did Yuji dirty even with a DE.

I don’t understand why he spent the whole manga without a CT, it makes absolutely no sense. The manga was finished and he ended up with a low-output Shrine, he cannot do anything with his Blood Manipulation that isn’t exploding blood and reattach limbs (which is very circumstantial).

What bothered me the most about how Gege dealt with Yuji is how he contradicted himself when he says Yuji potential is high as *, equal to Sukuna’s, but in practice he’s dumb as *, Ino level. Learn RCT and SD by himself? No, let others engrave this technique in his body. Develop Convergence to use the full potential of Blood Manipulation? No, even with two BM users he couldn’t do it.

Yeah that’s too much for one month of training, but that’s entirely Gege’s fault. Yuji could’ve developed BM way before SS arc and developed a few different techniques like SD or anything else by his own.
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I think Yuji spent the whole manga with a CT because he didn't need it for the entire manga. Yuji proved time and time again he can be an effective sorcerer without the need of a CT and once he gains one, we see how in the end, CT mostly supplements his true area of expertise which is h2h combat. And in the end, I don't think Yuji is contradicting with how his potential is shown. Yuji is just a down to earth interpretation of what it means to be someone with high potential. Yuji did things that sorcerer's years his seniors took years to realize in only a few months.

A month or two into being a sorcerer, he performed black flash. With only Black Flash and reinforcement to enhance his physicals, Yuji was capable of combating and exercising Special Grade curses. Something neither his peers in most of the current jujutsu students could hope to do within the same time frame and even at the same time for a few of them. He's at the level of a grade 1 sorcerer so shortly into his career as a sorcerer.

While he is not the smartest, to say Yuji is Ino level feels disingenuous. Just putting them next to each other in the final fight, Ino could do nothing but distract Sukuna. Yuji was one of the main pillars in the defeat of Sukuna in large part thanks to his own intelligence. To unlock a new CT and then quickly utilize a binding vow which relies on your understanding of the soul and ability to distinguish between them is not something near any other character within the series could perform. Yuji wasn't the only one to do swap training, yet of those that did it for sure, only Yuji and Choso learned RCT from it. Kusakabe and Ino didn't get this. And only Yuji was able to take the knowledge of a simple domain and then use to create a domain expansion, something Ino nor Choso were ever able to realize even though they did the same training. Yuji realized a full domain expansion even before Megumi did so.

But the biggest feat for Yuji in skill is quite literally the fact that he took his own domain expansion and treated it like an empty barrier. Something only done by the two best barrier users in the series. Sure, he got the fundamentals of a domain from Kusakabe, but to create a space which allows him to tour Sukuna through his life and the biggest clear depiction of an internal domain to date is an insane feat of skill.

Yuji's biggest problem is simply that he doesn't have long with any of these curse techinques. Choso has had over a century to reach his level of mastery, and Kashimo has had years as well. Of course, they're still better at it. You don't become an expert in a months time, and the mechanics for him gaining that CT in the first place literally don't work until after Sukuna leaves his body so there isn't any logical place for Yuji to learn this techinque before in the story. Especially when its already established he is to inherit Sukuna's techinque. And in regards to Shrine, Yuji in less than an hour of using learning the techinque is already imbuing it into a domain and maximizing it be a deadly tool for his arsenal. That is crazy, the only other person we ever saw to take a techinque and then style it in a similar manner was Sukuna.

Yuji is communicated as a prodigy of Jujutsu, whether that be in his record of Black Flashes meaning his innate understanding of CE was furthered time and time again across the series. Or how he could take a bad habit of his CE and make it into a techinque for himself after losing it. Or how he took the research of someone else, and combined that with his experience with hurting souls from Mahito and sharing his body with Sukuna to create a method in which he could separate cursed objects from their host (research all these other characters would've had access to, yet none of them including Choso who is an incarnated sorcerer) appeared able to realize.

Yuji isn't done dirty, he's just done tamely. And he he still succeeds even while being tame
 
Yeah, battle shonen tends to portray "natural genius" in a very over the top way, having characters surpass people with years if not decades of training and experience, who are themselves often very gifted, in a matter of mere months, but realistically that's probably not even possible in theory; Yuji is closer to someone like Gon Freecss in that being a genius in jujutsu doesn't equate to basically playing with cheat codes enabled.
 
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