Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Sir_sun_man]

I’m not saying Yuji doesn’t get stronger after them I’m saying this isn’t something that happens mid fight. No one hits a Black Flash and gets a perma buff like you’re saying. They enter the zone and they get a temporary buff as long as they keep hitting Black Flashes.

Yuji gets stronger the more he hits BF because he also train like he did with Todo.

The point is, no one hits a BF and gets a perma buff like this. It gives you a momentary buff and then increases your understanding of CE.

Yeah thats the buff I am talking about, having a better understanding of CE gives you better use of CE meaning you do get better not by an insane 20% pre flash but by a lower amount simple as that

I’m not comparing Kusakabe with Yuji I’m saying that even after all of that Kusakabe was still teaching him the basics. In the CG arc after all the buffs he got he still couldn’t infuse stuff with CE which is like, basic stuff.

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well then be clearer about it next time because you say that EoShinjuku Yuji is stronger but this Yuji was the most ****** up he was in the whole manga.

I mean I don't know how you interpreted it otherwise but what ever.

Elde level of interpretation. Uro clearly accelerated the GB back to Ryu and hit him. Yuta and Ryu are equal in reaction and combat speed as none had any sort of advantage against the other.

at a massive distance and we see Ryu see it move twards him while we have something like this from yuta:

yuta dodges a granite blast that is near point blank to him that changed direction right at him while Ryu couldn't dodge at a greater distance.

Never happened. They’re equal.

Not true again.

great arguments

Not really. They’re the same speed as none of these characters have any advantage in speed against the other and never will tbh. You never see Yuji outspeeding someone in an exchange of punches.

they are not, yuta has legit outdone ryu who is both stronger and more durable than him in close qurters he has a better showings than ryu he is faster, but again can't stress this enough NOT BY A MASSIVE MARGIN, he is somewhat faster but not to the point where ryu can't keep up this ain't no sukuna level of speed difference

The scan you linked to Arkenis was the ending of their fight when Ryu took multiple attacks from everyone.

same as yuta? like yeah both are exhausted and yuta has already lost connection to rika (the 5 mins where up) so ain't no more of that infinite CE

The only thing that damaged Ryu was Rika’s punches (who can punch Sukuna around and hold his arms still), his own Granite Blast and Thin Ice Breaker that ignores the defenses. So no.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

So not Yuta?

 

[Arkenis]

He's talking about durability because it just blocked GB. He's not talking about output. Rika's punch sends him flying, meanwhile nothing Yuta could do remotely hurt him.

 

[M3X_2.0]

He's talking about durability because it just blocked GB. He's not talking about output. Rika's punch sends him flying, meanwhile nothing Yuta could do remotely hurt him.

Rika is obviously much stronger physically than Yuta. She could punch Sukuna around, not even Yuji or Yuta could do that.

And IIIRC the statement of this panel he posted says that “she might be even tougher”.

 

[Arkenis]

And IIIRC the statement of this panel he posted says that “she might be even tougher”.

The one he posted is tcb but that's viz.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

He's talking about durability because it just blocked GB. He's not talking about output. Rika's punch sends him flying, meanwhile nothing Yuta could do remotely hurt him.

then its still would lead to their durability being similar cuse if rika can block GB and take simliar damage to Ryu taking his own blasts, which again would mean that yuta has comperable if somewhat inferior durability.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Higuruma has a chance if he can get death penalty.

Higuruma physical sts should be lower than Yuji. Beside Yuji has two CT so this time his CE wouldn't be confiscated.

Either he loses BM or Shrine. He would still have his CE reinforcements.

If he loses Shrine his BM is enough to Poison Higuruma
If he loses BM he can use Shrine to chop him off.
Saying this before you say Yuji can't beat Higuruma because of RCT.

 

[Shmooply]

Higuruma wins because he my goat.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Higuruma physical sts should be lower than Yuji. Beside Yuji has two CT so this time his CE wouldn't be confiscated.

Either he loses BM or Shrine. He would still have his CE reinforcements.

If he loses Shrine his BM is enough to Poison Higuruma
If he loses BM he can use Shrine to chop him off.
Saying this before you say Yuji can't beat Higuruma because of RCT.

Domain Amplification gg

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Domain Amplification versus the unmatched power of the CE reinforcement

 

[LIGHTYW]

Domain Amplification gg

wouldnt higurama neutralize his own CT if he used amplification too much?

 

[M3X_2.0]

wouldnt higurama neutralize his own CT if he used amplification too much?

Idk but I just realized that DA vs Yuji is useless because both of his CT suck so much that it’s not worth it.

 

[LIGHTYW]

Idk but I just realized that DA vs Yuji is useless because both of his CT suck so much that it’s not worth it.

Yes, yuji oneshots....

 

[LIGHTYW]

Actual dogshit

1 - Assuming you're referring to ch238, wherein that Sukuna's stats are drastically reduced, has ass RCT, has no DE, and has reduced output for anti-domain tech. Idk how he fights against Gojo.
2. Again with the same weaknesses. Sukuna has WCS now but accounting for the fatigue carried on over from the Gojo fight and he'd lose if he had to restart against Gojo from scratch.
3. I won't get into prime Sukuna vs Gojo, I'm fine if you think Sukuna wins
4. 15F Sukuna? 20F Sukuna was already losing within the basket ball domain, so a slower and weaker Sukuna that doesn't have Mahoraga would lose far quicker.
5. TRUEEE
6. There's some I'd rank above awakened Gojo, such as 6E Yuta or WCS Mahoraga
7. Miguel lowkey has better statements than Kashimo for stats (and stats is all Kashimo fans have)
8.
9 & 10. I think there's a few characters who beat Yuta, and I don't think Yuji beats any of the Heavy Hitters since his DE is shit

i meant full power in all of these sukuna versions, 20F, no damage or nerf and obviously not holding back
And well, MBa kashimo still blitzing everyone.. And yuji DE is pretty much a wincon if you cant deal with soul damage

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Higuruma is more broken than Sukuna or Gojo. Dude only needs some good sts & skills.

 

[Gokukid2005]

Quick sanity test: Does EOS Yuji beat any special grade sorcerer and if so which one?

None

Quick sanity test: Out of these FIRST GRADE sorcerers who can EOS Yuji beat: Ryu, Hakari, Kashimo, Uro, Reggie, Uraume, Miguel, Higuruma, Yorozu.

Ryu, Reggie, Kashimo, Miguel.
Hakari outlasts him.
Uro redirects everything and beats him down slowly.
Uraume freezes him and he dies.
Higuruma judges him.
Yorozu gets hit once, realises he weakens her and she enters her bug armor and can't lose anymore.

 

[Arkenis]

None

Ryu, Reggie, Kashimo, Miguel.
Hakari outlasts him.
Uro redirects everything and beats him down slowly.
Uraume freezes him and he dies.
Higuruma judges him.
Yorozu gets hit once, realises he weakens her and she enters her bug armor and can't lose anymore.

Sanity in check.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Sanity in check.

yeah in check....... as in it checked out years ago

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Higuruma vs Gojo stats equal would be so funny
Like, how many crimes have Gojo accidentally committed?

 

[M3X_2.0]

Higuruma would’ve been the perfect Curse User hunter.

Open Domain, they can’t do anything. Get death penalty, confiscate their CT. He kills them or defeat them for good.

Easy.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Higuruma vs Gojo stats equal would be so funny
Like, how many crimes have Gojo accidentally committed?

• He might have killed some curse users when protecting what was her name I forgot. Star plasma one.
• He Killed a Homeless man (Toji)
• Tried tobe a racist and beat up Miguel
• Put some people to come in Shibuya for no reason

 

[M3X_2.0]

Property damage as well

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Higuruma can literally null your CT after any inconvenience
If you've ever damaged someone else's object, like a shirt, its already over

 

[Gokukid2005]

Higuruma vs Gojo stats equal would be so funny
Like, how many crimes have Gojo accidentally committed?

Mass amounts of property damage (His youth and also Shibuya and Shinjuku lol)
Destruction of ecosystem (purpling through a forest)
Multiple counts of first degree murder with a note from him admitting it (Toji)
His birth could be seen as a crime of inducing panic atp

 

[Gokukid2005]

Tl;dr Gojo is getting confiscation and death penalty easily

 

[M3X_2.0]

What makes this bullshit ability broken is that if Higuruma thinks that something should be able to be judged then Judgeman will consider it.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

His birth could be seen as a crime of inducing panic atp

Imagine being tried and given the death penalty simply due to the fact that you were f*cking born

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Mass amounts of property damage (His youth and also Shibuya and Shinjuku lol)
Destruction of ecosystem (purpling through a forest)
Multiple counts of first degree murder with a note from him admitting it (Toji)
His birth could be seen as a crime of inducing panic atp

Imagine being tried and given the death penalty simply due to the fact that you were f*cking born

IIRC the defendant can make their own arguments. Though obviously Higu's response to that is another matter entirely

Higuruma himself would probably find trying Gojo for being born stupid as hell so that's no way that's even on the table

If he gets tried for his extreme property damage and or forest destruction he's almost certainly getting his technique confiscated lmao

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

So basically if you list the crimes he can't argue his way out of, it's basically just

-Property damage
-Property damage
-Property damage
-Ecosystem destruction

That's just the Limitless in a nutshell

 

[Shmooply]

Gojo gets the death penalty for being zesty.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Gojo gets death penalty for killing the homeless man

 

[Giannysmag]

Gojo gets death penalty for killing the homeless man

Self defense

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Self defense

Nuh. Homeless man was going back to his home. Gojo ambushed him on the way. It's definitely Gojo's fault

 

[Giannysmag]

Nuh. Homeless man was going back to his home. Gojo ambushed him on the way. It's definitely Gojo's fault

Toji attacked first

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Toji attacked first

First fight was already over. Gojo was the one took initiative in second fight

 

[Giannysmag]

First fight was already over. Gojo was the one took initiative in second fight

Nah Gojo was just there to retrieve Riko's body, it was that hooligan Toji that started round 2

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Nah Gojo was just there to retrieve Riko's body, it was that hooligan Toji that started round 2

Higuruma: Stop lying, dude. Judgeman has the information on what happened. You’re high and talking nonsense, saying that Riko's death doesn’t matter. You should have gone to the police instead of taking matters into your own hands, killing a homeless man, and leaving Megumi fatherless.

Gojo:

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Self defense

nope vigilante justice, gojo went after toji after he already left him in a near death state with an express purpose of fighting and killing him so self defense won't hold up for that kill.

If he killed toji in their first confrontation than it'd be self defense.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

The evidence that Higuruma would have about Toji's death are either from old news (Or not even that, because Megumi didn't know any of that, so its probably not a public information) or Gojo's letter, and both are vague enough to lie about self defense lol

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

nope vigilante justice, gojo went after toji after he already left him in a near death state with an express purpose of fighting and killing him so self defense won't hold up for that kill.

If he killed toji in their first confrontation than it'd be self defense.

To be fair like Life said, there would be minimal evidence and unless Higuruma lucks out with exactly the evidence he needs, Gojo can probably still win the case. Technically speaking Gojo pulled up, they had a convo, and then Toji went in for the attack first. Unless Higaruma gets exactly the info of their conversation on top of the case specifically being about his second fight with Toji, which isn’t a guarantee, it’s possible Gojo can literally just pull self defense or something saying he wasn’t there to fight but to find Riko’s body

Even if he does get confiscated and the death penalty, I doubt he’d lose to higaruma even then lol