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Arkenis making some good takes in JJK threads?
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You are wasting your time bruh . Let it go Arkenis gonna make another worst take.Assuming everything's proportional, then an increase in height would mean longer limbs, giving more reach/range of striking, and more weight, thus increasing the force of their attacks as well. Though, that would only work if the speed can stay the same or at least close enough.
And if Gojo and Miguel can get into a fight where both parties have a reasonable chance of winning, I'd say they'd be comparable in that specific category/scenario. Like, I don't see the issue w/Miguel and others being equal, if not, above Gojo in one area or skill, especially when it's happened before.
The reason why Sukuna only landed 1 kick is because he was afraid if he went outside of Mahoraga's shadowed he'd just get outright destroyed.I don't care much about who has better physicals but some of the arguments are funny & Gojo Glazers love to read Burrito Manga with half sleep.
Dishonesty at finest chapter 234 Sukuna lands a single kick on 2BF amped Gojo. Chapter 233 Sukuna tries to tag Gojo who was amped by 1BF once in 3 vs 1 tag. But Gojo glazes starts spitting nonsense like It's 3 vs 1 all time. Yeah sure whoever supports Gojo are not biased Gojo was fighting 3 vs 1 despite Mahoraga is the only key which could bypass infinity and others needed to utilise the correct timing. Brother we are reading same Burrito Manga fr. Acting like Sukuna wasn't tired and getting weaker while time goes on while Gojo was in Zone.
Did anyone say this? Please show were anyone is saying this.Sukuna and Grasshopper are at same level skills fr. Most logical arguments anyone can make.
Gojo when stereotyping black people as being athletic and better built than the average Japanese person says that that quality gives Miguel an edge over Japanese sorcerers when CE Reinforcement is applied on top.Greater height and muscle mass isn't always going to be a "stat amp" in the context of fighting
Yuji isn't really a good example. The major point about Yuji's strength at the beginning of the series is that it's unnatural to regular people because it's superhuman and it's also unnatural to most sorcerers because Yuji wasn't using any CE to reinforce his body nor did he have a Heavenly Restriction preventing him from having CE like Toji. Yuji being stronger than Todo when CE isn't involved despite Yuji's smaller build is also something that Todo notes so this kind of thing isn't the norm which makes Yuji an exception, not the rule.this is especially true in the context of JJK with fairly slim builds like Yuji's being superior to Todo's build
Sukuna was likely similar to Yuji in that he had unnatural strength even without using CE to reinforce himself which is then transferred over to his vessel's body when he's in control since the shear difference in Yuji and Megumi's physicals (without CE) would have the narrator or anyone else note some difference in power in which case Sukuna's build would be irrelevantWith Sukuna we also know that he already augments his vessel, Megumi tells us that 3F Sukuna not only had better jujutsu (i.e. reinforcement, since Sukuna hadn't shown anything else) but even his physicality was somehow on a whole different level from Yuji's, which would explain why Sukuna didn't have a drop in power when body swapping between Yuji and Megumi.
This was essentially what I was getting at. Lowkey I think Sukuna, likely due to the twin theory, has some akin to HR with his physicals (obv not HR itself, but something that makes his senses and physicality superhuman).Sukuna was likely similar to Yuji in that he had unnatural strength even without using CE to reinforce himself which is then transferred over to his vessel's body when he's in control since the shear difference in Yuji and Megumi's physicals (without CE) would have the narrator or anyone else note some difference in power in which case Sukuna's build would be irrelevant
After he got his arm cut, got ganked especially after getting his arm cut off.Dishonesty at finest chapter 234 Sukuna lands a single kick on 2BF amped Gojo.
So technically that shit wasn't a proper 3 vs 1 as you guys are making out Gojo's feat of Fighting them.After he got his arm cut, got ganked especially after getting his arm cut off.
And that was when Sukuna was afraid to come out to fight Gojo, where he had to hide behind the shadows
2BF already got his RCT output back and we already know 1BF is enough to get the sorcerers into the Zone.Btw those BF didn't do much. He was trying to figure out on how to create a new rct circuit to increase his output. That's when the actual benefits kicked in for him.
Its timeIf you guys start another Sukuna vs Gojo debate I shall kill ya all irl
He was literally outside the Shadow in chapter 235 and still alive. At this point, you are making things up. He wasn't afraid of getting destroyed; instead, he wanted to give Mahoraga orders properly. Agito was a one-trick phony. It didn't contribute much, and Gojo literally mocks it. So it's more like Gojo vs. Mahoraga, with Sukuna controlling it in the background. The arguments shouldn't exist, as Sukuna using his own four arms is equivalent to Mahoraga and brainless Agito using their own hands. Sukuna doesn't lose any momentum even with four arms; he can freely use all of them, unlike Agito, who doesn't have any IQ.The reason why Sukuna only landed 1 kick is because he was afraid if he went outside of Mahoraga's shadowed he'd just get outright destroyed.
You just didn't compared Sukuna & Grasshopper here?Did anyone say this? Please show were anyone is saying this.
"Sukuna has 2 additional arms, he's better at H2H combat" - We've already seen that additional arms doesn't improve your skill in H2H combat, i.e. the grasshopper curse spirit and Yuji outright told us that Yuji won out of superior combat skill,
Does it scales to anyone?Jujutsu Kaisen: Sukuna somehow creates a storm
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Wouldn’t even scale to him.Does it scales to anyone?
Ah yet again the 17534664th argument irrelevant to the profiles and crts in the jjk discussion thread and its about Gojo and Sukuna again.
JJK god tiers ain't beating tier 7 allegationsWouldn’t even scale to him.
So technically that shit wasn't a proper 3 vs 1 as you guys are making out Gojo's feat of Fighting them.
Sukuna was afraid to 1v3 Gojo, knowing he'd lose
"AHA! SO SUKUNA DIDN'TtechnicallyLOSE A 1V3!"
Sukuna came out, got perception blitzed, Mahoraga then saved him from being hit by a BF, Sukuna tries punching Gojo and gets dragged around by his wrist and caught by Mahoraga, Mahoraga then saves him from a second BF hit, Gojo charges red and Sukuna thinks "it's okay, Mahoraga can save me again!", Gojo fires it and Sukuna, sweating and spitting, begs Mahoraga to save him before trying to sneak another PB shot but gets countered, then Gojo successfully lands purple. Show me where this contradicts Sukuna's fear that Gojo would unleash purple if he came out of hiding?He was literally outside the Shadow in chapter 235 and still alive. At this point, you are making things up.
Sukuna says he's doing it to avoid purple, pretty blatant why he's hiding when he tells us why.He wasn't afraid of getting destroyed; instead, he wanted to give Mahoraga orders properly
Agito is still stat relative to the three of them, so her having low battle IQ doesn't make it non-comparable. Sukuna is more skilled, sure, but Gojo fighting against 3 sets of arms.Agito was a one-trick phony. It didn't contribute much, and Gojo literally mocks it. So it's more like Gojo vs. Mahoraga, with Sukuna controlling it in the background. The arguments shouldn't exist, as Sukuna using his own four arms is equivalent to Mahoraga and brainless Agito using their own hands. Sukuna doesn't lose any momentum even with four arms; he can freely use all of them, unlike Agito, who doesn't have any IQ.
My argument is that Gojo can easily account for a numerical difference in arms, you've yet to show that Sukuna can cross a skill gap with extra arms.Your argument that Sukuna was afraid isn't going to get you anywhere with the 3 vs. 1 argument. You are technically admitting it was 2 vs. 1 99% of the time, but only Mahoraga was doing something. Agito was just there to fill the gap.
I used an instance where a 4-armed opponent lost to a 2-armed opponent purely due to a skill gap to infer that the same could theoretically occur to another 4-armed opponent if he went up against a better H2H fighters - how is that the same as saying "both 4-armed opponents are equal in skill"?You just didn't compared Sukuna & Grasshopper here?
you know people can just talk in here for fun right? not every message needs to be about future CRTs... If you don't want to participate, sure just don't, but why be so bitter about itAh yet again the 17534664th argument irrelevant to the profiles and crts in the jjk discussion thread and its about Gojo and Sukuna again.
I'm not bitter, I was semi joking and I like participating in random discussions. I got into this discussion like two pages ago. Just thought it was funny how much the thread is about Gojo and Sukuna rather than updating profiles/crts is all.you know people can just talk in here for fun right? not every message needs to be about future CRTs... If you don't want to participate, sure just don't, but why be so bitter about it
"7-A with Domain Expansion" is backJujutsu Kaisen: Sukuna somehow creates a storm
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Eh, we're in a weird spot where most who'd be doing a thread want to wait for the series to end before doing anymore CRT. Or at least this arc if we somehow manage to get another after. We only got these last two threads recently because the last speed downgrade, I don't think ever got implemented properly.I'm not bitter, I was semi joking and I like participating in random discussions. I got into this discussion like two pages ago. Just thought it was funny how much the thread is about Gojo and Sukuna rather than updating profiles/crts is all.
Make a crt. Though... I will warn you... FTL shall never come to pass.When are we getting FTL Sukuna
Maybe? He can focus the destruction in One single point, like against GojoDoes it scales to anyone?
I think FTL might have better legs to stand on now, but that's still a real uphill battleWhen are we getting FTL Sukuna
Eh, for now I think we should be more worried about whether or not the calc will be even accepted. The cloud end could be dismissed as dust from the debris or whatever, and I'm not too sure at how much sense this actually makes given Sukuna's moveset.Maybe? He can focus the destruction in One single point, like against Gojo
He just asked If it would scale. I'm not saying if the calc is right or not. In fact, I dont even know the calc methodEh, for now I think we should be more worried about whether or not the calc will be even accepted. The cloud end could be dismissed as dust from the debris or whatever, and I'm not too sure at how much sense this actually makes given Sukuna's moveset.
Was thinking on it and the anti-feats people use against MHS+ and above just come from inverse takes (like "Naoya > Hakari") which are definitely not set it stone, to the point every crt thread on it comes down to me arguing inverse scaling about these characters which I think is at the very least weak. Like if you need to disregard several feats because of your own inverse metas, a meta which has no explicit feats and statements only "narrative implication", then maybe the inverse meta simply isn't allat. If I ever do a CRT defending JJK speed scaling, I'll focus it far more on attacking all the Naoya and Naobito wank on this site.I think FTL might have better legs to stand on now, but that's still a real uphill battle
It was given how he hides within the shadows and occasionally takes shots to prevent him from unleashing HP. Agito and Maho are fighting him, where he can't use his neutral infinity almost all of the time. And Sukuna hides within the shadows. IT IS a 3vs1. It's not like Sukuna left the fight. Gojo still has to pay attention to sneak attacks.So technically that shit wasn't a proper 3 vs 1 as you guys are making out Gojo's feat of Fighting them.
Cool, and he was still having his output drop. Why do you think he's barely healing these wounds. It's only after he got his arm cut off that he was finally able to establish a RCT circuit. Those black flashes barely do anything when his brain damage is centered on his CT and is also making his output decline still. Like I said the actual benefits of these only kicked in after some time.2BF already got his RCT output back and we already know 1BF is enough to get the sorcerers into the Zone.
Cook.Was thinking on it and the anti-feats people use against MHS+ and above just come from inverse takes (like "Naoya > Hakari") which are definitely not set it stone, to the point every crt thread on it comes down to me arguing inverse scaling about these characters which I think is at the very least weak. Like if you need to disregard several feats because of your own inverse metas, a meta which has no explicit feats and statements only "narrative implication", then maybe the inverse meta simply isn't allat. If I ever do a CRT defending JJK speed scaling, I'll focus it far more on attacking all the Naoya and Naobito wank on this site.
bro come on either way Sukuna did try sneak attacking Gojo alongside Maho and Agito in 233, shit failed and he went back to hiding.
Sukuna came out, got perception blitzed, Mahoraga then saved him from being hit by a BF, Sukuna tries punching Gojo and gets dragged around by his wrist and caught by Mahoraga, Mahoraga then saves him from a second BF hit, Gojo charges red and Sukuna thinks "it's okay, Mahoraga can save me again!", Gojo fires it and Sukuna, sweating and spitting, begs Mahoraga to save him before trying to sneak another PB shot but gets countered, then Gojo successfully lands purple. Show me where this contradicts Sukuna's fear that Gojo would unleash purple if he came out of hiding?
I already explained that it was a buffed Gojo versus a weakened Sukuna, along with a brainless Agito and a Mahoraga that had not fully adapted to Gojo. This weakened Sukuna, who had to issue commands to Mahoraga, faced off against 2BF Gojo in his zone. Sukuna knew he couldn't let Gojo fire Purple, so he made Agito and Mahoraga fight him while he gave them orders.As I explained, whether Sukuna was afraid or not, Mahoraga and Agito ganging up on Gojo does not demonstrate a significant skill feat. Those two were brainless and required Sukuna's commands to act. Therefore, comparing Gojo fighting them to Sukuna fighting multiple hands is not a fair argument.Sukuna says he's doing it to avoid purple, pretty blatant why he's hiding when he tells us why.
There are zero feats showcased relative to that. Gojo literally pierced it and was damaging it with just normal Blue. Agito was obviously below Gojo and Mahoraga. Also, it had only one opening to attack Gojo, which was when Mahoraga made contact with Gojo. As I said, Gojo literally mocks that.Agito is still stat relative to the three of them, so her having low battle IQ doesn't make it non-comparable. Sukuna is more skilled, sure, but Gojo fighting against 3 sets of arms.
My argument is that Gojo can easily account for a numerical difference in arms, you've yet to show that Sukuna can cross a skill gap with extra arms.
So, your analogy has no value if you think both has different level skills.I used an instance where a 4-armed opponent lost to a 2-armed opponent purely due to a skill gap to infer that the same could theoretically occur to another 4-armed opponent if he went up against a better H2H fighters - how is that the same as saying "both 4-armed opponents are equal in skill"?
NGL I agree with this take of yoursWas thinking on it and the anti-feats people use against MHS+ and above just come from inverse takes (like "Naoya > Hakari") which are definitely not set it stone, to the point every crt thread on it comes down to me arguing inverse scaling about these characters which I think is at the very least weak. Like if you need to disregard several feats because of your own inverse metas, a meta which has no explicit feats and statements only "narrative implication", then maybe the inverse meta simply isn't allat. If I ever do a CRT defending JJK speed scaling, I'll focus it far more on attacking all the Naoya and Naobito wank on this site.