You took out the context that Kashimo was attacking Hakari while he was static. No he did not knock him out quickly. More importantly, Hakari launches him with a punch immediately after that, drawing blood. His striking strength is visibly heavy in this fight
Yuta was trying to kill Yuji, as he had to as per the orders of his binding vow. He doesn't need to hold back, nor does he ever say he's holding back. The only indication is that Yuta waits to summon Rika until after he loses his katana. But Rika doesn't boost his stats, just refuels his cursed energy and gives him access to his copied techinques so his stats should be relative still
This guy is insane. I told him to not scale Geto to someone like Nanami or Mei Mei because they had the greatest striking strength of the Grade 1s and somehow he seems mad about it. Like what the ****, why do you want to scale characters that have nothing to do with each other scaling wise?
He says maybe. And do we gotta talk about the Big three? the notable showings are Naobito and Naoya, two who couldn't do much with their output against their opponents like Dagon and Choso. Not to say Nanami is above them, just means the statement isn't all that important for my point which is about when Gojo was a teen not in the current story's time period.
That's Yuji who didn't want to fight and Hakari's ce trait allows him to do more damage.
I am not ignoring anything, we know Hakari isn't effected by the trait, this doesn't matter. And it was quick, he hit him then kneed him to the head and he started caving.
Yes
He was holding back. Also, only partially manifested Rika came out, so nothing changed for Yuta
Then you and him are wrong.
Nah uh
That means Nanami's strength isn't narratively exceptional in that regard
"Started caving"? He was busy enjoying the infinite CE bonus of his technique, and after being attacked he immediately responded with a punch that floored Kashimo
Saying JP Hakari got knocked out is wrong. Hakari didn't resisted Kashimo attack which is clearly mentioned in TCB (you being John werry translation fan is the big problem here). Hakari was enjoying the infinite CE bonus he got and didn't even tried to resists Kashimo's kick. So stop twisting what's written in the manga. If you have problems with even TCB check the raws.
I'm pretty sure @Duedate8898 is talking about inside fight where Yuji tried to headbutt him but it didn't even scratched Hakari he took it like nothing. Yuji also mentioned he was fighting back that time.
Yeah no even then Yuji is still holding back. The entire reason is to recruit the guy, not to beat him.
And I'm talking about the fact that Nanami's strength isn't comparatively exceptional. I don't understand where this is coming from
You just switched to a different instance of the fight but okay. I feel like we should just agree to disagree because in the end, they both floor each other multiple times throughout their battle. None of this proves that Hakari's strength isn't up to par with his allies nor that he struggled to make Kashimo bleed
What are you referring to? TCB and Viz say basically the same thing? TCB says he's ignoring the trait through output and quanity, Viz says his output is high enough he ignores it.
Look, I honestly don't know what you're not understanding, my point is, overall Nanami is exceptional as a first grade. There are like three good first grades out of the families we know anything about and they themselves aren't far above Nanami in output. That is all.
I am showing you my point with it, its an exmaple of Hakari's amps from his domain allowing him to reawaken himself from getting knocked out by Kashimo, that is the point.
This is base Hakari who can use his CT to wake himself up. But your first argument was regarding JP Hakari who doesn't have that feature.
Check the above scan properly.
Stop fanboying Jon Werr
It's the case for both of them. Yuji was also stated to be holding back. Dude was also not recovered. I don't think he scales to Yuta here. I'm just saying Yuji was weakened & holding back during this encounter
Are we talking about Teen Geto or Adult Geto?
I can see Adult Geto might having SS by scaling off from his fight against Rika & Yuta but not sure about Teen Geto. Dude just beats up a old guy & paper guy.
I mean, yeah I can believe Adult Geto has better SS than nanami. He's fighting against Yuta and Rika and defending them just fine, utilizing a curse tool which is more effective based off of the physical reinforcement you give.
His reinforcement did prevent Toji from doing further damage to him with his katana after he stabbed him off guard. Whatever his SS is, it sure as shit should not be unknown
Yeah, when Habari died
You saying this like he went against a notable sorcerer lmao, dude beat up an elderly man.
What does that even mean? He's relative to Gojo, that's so easy.
What are you on, Sukuna downscales. How we are about to argue anything but him downscaling from Gojo? He can hurt Gojo with Cleave and Dismantle, he's able to effectively block and counter hit from Gojo without Red, and straight up tanks several blue strikes. Output goes into Reinforcement and Attacks so he should be fine
CG characters besides Itadori. I think it's safe to revise Gojo's profile now since he's dead for real, and since the thread won't be posted until like next month, I can add any few feat Yuta has with his body.
Not enough, need a more fleshed out justification, saying he's relative to Gojo and showing a single scan of Sukuna kicking Gojo's head is wack
