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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Did that guy create an album full of whatever anti feats he could he his hands on?

If anything the motivation to do that is quite something.
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
Did that guy create an album full of whatever anti feats he could he his hands on?

If anything the motivation to do that is quite something.
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Why does he consider all anti-feats relevant? Is he Guacamolefletcher?
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Guacamolefletcher said:
You're misunderstanding that 5% argument. The entire point is that making that marginal increase is incredibly hard eventhough it's just a tiny 5% marginal increase.
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Idk why you'd think this is an appropriate argument to make in a fictional setting. In any piece of fiction when a characters jumps several tiers in power we don't bring up how hard it is to grow in strength in real life, we don't make this analogy for Dragon Ball, Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, 7 Deadly Sins, Black Clover, My Hero Academia, One Punch Man, etc., so why would we start using it for Jujutsu Kaisen?
Guacamolefletcher said:
I maintain it's the same between someone like Gojo and Yuta.

Yuta is strong enough to take punches from Gojo with no blue,
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"Not sure if it counts as serious, but he once applied Limitless cursed technique to striking me"
"If by seriously punched you mean taken as a blow from his Limitless technique, then I have"
"本気でっていうか無下限呪術を応用した打撃ってことならあります" = "It's not that he was serious, but if you're asking if he's ever hit me using limitless cursed techniques, then yes."

Notice how in none of these Yuta is saying Gojo punched him with all his strength? Well it could be because Uraume, who has durability on par with characters like Yuta, was wounded so severely by Gojo's punch that they weren't fully healed even a month later. Or maybe it's because Gojo's punches can make Sukuna bleed, the same man who tanked Yuta's maximum techniques. Or maybe it's because Gojo's punches scale to Sukuna who could punch straight through characters like Choso, characters with enough CE reinforcement to fight alongside Yuta and Yuji.

Furthermore, in context, both Yuta and Hakari were incapacitated by this singular punch, so it's not at all comparable to Yuta being "hurt" by Ryu's punches in a prolonged exchange of blows.
Guacamolefletcher said:
It's the reason why 80% of Sukuna (at worst) can't deal lethal blows to Ryu without cleave
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Sukuna used cleave to kill him, doesn't mean Sukuna NEEDED cleave to kill him. Sukuna's initial dismantle was held back, as stated, and later in ch250 Sukuna says he needed an on-contact cut within reference to his level of suppression (evident by how he later killed Yuta with a regular dismantle once things got risky).
Guacamolefletcher said:
Ryu > 100% Sukuna via the greatest output in history shit.
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The statement doesn't say this. It was rumoured Ryu had the greatest output recorded (Sukuna's was never recorded, it's stated future sorcerers don't know his power) IN THAT REGION, and even then Kashimo doubts the rumours as true. So why should we take it at face value to say Ryu > Sukuna?
Guacamolefletcher said:
More stuff supporting it would be the narrative with Yuta surpassing Gojo. Yuta wouldn't train Rika to grow in AP 100x to grow to Gojo level, but rather Rika is already at that level of physicality and Yuta needs to polish other aspects to grow as a sorcerer
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Why wouldn't Yuta train to increase his AP?
 
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LIFE_OF_KING said:
Its wrong to use as a antifeat cuz otherwise you would making a insane claim of Kratos being Peak Human at best
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you do know i can just flip the ball and say it's wrong to use his strongest feats because you will make him more superhuman than he actually is and i'd have just as solid an argument as yours right?

like idk what's people's problems with saying it's dumb to use those, call them outliers, call the events themselvs stupid, but the still happened, just as kratos killed a titan and lifted worlds, he got harmed by arrows a rock falling debris and a bear, me stating what happened isn't dumb, it's just the truth

how that affects your powerscaling of him doesn't really matter because all this implies is the series is inconsistent
 
M3X_2.0 said:
And dies by falling
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there is just something comical about it lmao

bro killed a titan, lifted multiple worlds with his bare hands, and still gets impaled by a random rock

ReaperAndBlues said:
I'd say all three. Stupid, boarish, and resillient, in the wrong way. You know when you've won when they haven't replied.
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that's where i started my powerscaling bs, altoough i was pretty trash back then
 
Passersby said:
that's where i started my powerscaling bs, altoough i was pretty trash back then
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I was okay at best. I had real debating skills but it was being wasted. But if I could take a comment section on a controversial WIS edit and put it here, I'd be reported. Those mfs have no respect
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Not really, zero correlation with Yuta knowing Miguel’s strength and the period of the training.

It’s stated that this “training” was more like a search for another rope.
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If he knows Miguel's strength, he wouldn't be surprised when Gojo hyped Miguel. It seems like Gojo explained Miguel's strength to Yuta before letting Miguel train him. If Yuta has been training with Miguel, I'm pretty sure he would have grasped Miguel's physical abilities. Also, Miguel does worse than Yuta in the current arc.

It heavily implies Gojo's statement comes from JJK0 time period (around there)
M3X_2.0 said:
Yeah the Miguel refusing to meet him point is fine, but Gojo could've just changed clothes lol, he’s a weirdo but I think he’d bring different clothes.
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I doubt Gojo went there to stay. The dude looked like he was in a hurry since he didn't change his uniform; he just went to Africa, warned Yuta, and came back. If he was going to stay there, it would have been more logical for him to wear casual clothing.

Yeah, he sure could have changed clothes if he wasn't in a hurry. The fact that he traveled to a foreign country in his uniform implies he didn't stay there long enough to chat with Miguel after changing clothes.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
I don't remember cursed energy being eternal. Curses exists as along as humans exists but there is a limit to it. So his technique should work on Mahito. Beside even if it doesn't be can still target soul and negs him.
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I don't think there's a limit. Since curses can only be destroyed by other curses, I feel like that outlines pretty well that they don't actually fade with time. Not to mention cases like Cursed Objects, Sukuna's especially, that just gets stronger with time instead of fading away even though Sukuna himself isn't a cursed spirit so he can't be the collective fear of anything nor can he be collecting something like ambient cursed energy.
 
Duedate8898 said:
I don't think there's a limit. Since curses can only be destroyed by other curses, I feel like that outlines pretty well that they don't actually fade with time. Not to mention cases like Cursed Objects, Sukuna's especially, that just gets stronger with time instead of fading away even though Sukuna himself isn't a cursed spirit so he can't be the collective fear of anything nor can he be collecting something like ambient cursed energy.
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The limit is human emotions, which give birth to curses. So, it does have a limit, logically speaking. Sorcerers can generate and control CE. Sukuna being a cursed object doesn't change anything. It's not like it was stated that he will exist for eternity. We never got any statement about that (as far as I remember). Him being able to exist in a stagnant state with a binding vow or something similar doesn't change the fact that cursed energy is still within the limit. The fact that cursed energy seals placed on him get weaker over time and need to be renewed or something similar already shows that cursed energy can be depleted.

Also I'm pretty sure curses can't exists without negative emotions looking at what Yuki was trying to achieve. It's immortality type 8 than type 1.
 
That's the limit for the creation of more cursed energy not for how long cursed energy last is what I'm saying. Because Yuki's goal of abolishing cursed spirits is about keeping humanity from making more of them. Hence her talk with Geto, where it henges on the fact that normal people create curse spirits, while sorcerer's don't. Whatmore, when it comes to talismans its not the cursed energy that's weakening is the seal on it. Talismans made from cursed objects which push away curses becomes proper cursed objects that now attract curses, none of that is the cursed energy itself fading or growing weaker, that's the physical seals made from them growing weaker which is separate from it. And Sukuna isn't existing in a stagnate state as fingers, he's actively growing stronger hence the goal of destroying them while they can with Yuji.

It's not that curses can't exist without negative emotions, is that cursed spirits can't be born or reborn without them.
 
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