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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Emirp sumitpo said:
I saw some people saying that VSBW is purposely downplaying Toji and wanking Kobeni as if everyone who worked on the JJK and CSM profiles are the same people?

This isn't the first time I've seen this type of thing happen and it's weird how many times this pops up.
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It’s because they know nothing about how this site operates.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
This isn't the first time I've seen this type of thing happen and it's weird how many times this pops up.
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a lot of people don't take the ratings seriously tbh, altough they do say it got better recently


and it seems like it has to do with the fact that the speed and stats shown in profiles usually don't exactly reflect all that well in the series being scaled in terms of destructive output or just speed in general, the first that comes to mind is naruto because i had no idea people even tough he was mach a million until i saw power scalers because his feats and showings just aren't that good, only thing i do remember that's decent is intercepting the ten tails bijuu bombs that seemed to cross several hundred kms in a few seconds

jjk on the other hand, suffers from having an author that knows how to handle speed, mach 3 is pretty impressive, crossing a km in less than a second and in order to reach that speed the character had to build momentum from quite the distance, supersonic is not a joke speed your friendly neighbor steve can reach it's something that will allow you to cross cities in minutes, these are pretty impressive speed showings that only get overshadowed when power scalers come in with the databook statements complete disrgard of the plot and an obssession of having bigger numbers show up, in black clover as a general example as well the timers introduced by the author (example: chap 259) kills the LS speed scaling and treats it like a silly joke, for a LS speedster 50 seconds would be a literal eternity, and they very visibly don't cross any meaningful distance in that 50 seconds or the later 3 seconds where asta only managed to hold his sword and perform a single attack and the wiki has him as someone fast enough to statue light

it's fickle, to say the least, so people usually don't actually take the values in the profiles that seriously, and those who do are usually powerscalers as well
 
I've seen some people have an issue with the gap between mid-tiers to high-tiers, going mach 3 to lightning timers, but ultimately if you ignore calcs entirely and assume everything falls under a certain speed there is a clear speed progression from subsonic to mach 3 to lightning and to potential rel/ftl with god tiers
 
PowerToScale said:
I've seen some people have an issue with the gap between mid-tiers to high-tiers, going mach 3 to lightning timers, but ultimately if you ignore calcs entirely and assume everything falls under a certain speed there is a clear speed progression from subsonic to mach 3 to lightning and to potential rel/ftl with god tiers
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..there is no lightning nor light speed bits, i can maybe see the god tiers being the double digit mach range but even then the gojo vs sukuna fight had multiple timers in the seconds where they didn't cross the entire planet back to back got to the moon fought there for a bit came back exchanged billions of blows statue gravity and be invinsible to everyone(example being he 41 second timeframe in Chapter 235 where they're showed only throwing around like a couple dozen blows at most and reacting to Red before it reaches its target, no matter how you twist it, that fight cannot be happening in reltavisitc or massively hypersonic velocities) nothing in jjk supports that notion

LS anything in jjk or even lightning timing isn't exactly supported by much of anything, the power scalers usually just blow the stats out of proportions without understanding the implications the speed would have for the acual scenes, from what i remember of the fight it wasn't a constant blur of ungodly relativistic velocities, even the fact that Gojo's Red was able to loop around and strike sukuna in the same position indicates that Sukuna is standing in the same place for an amount of time not measured in the nanoseconds and the fact that gojo only manages to land one blow on Sukuna and then fails to follow it up in the 10 seconds of exposure to UV before Mahoraga emerges and shatters his domain also says a lot

as i said, i can see the god tiers being hyperonic, double digit mach? maybe

lightning timing and above is a hell no

edit: fixed some typos
 
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M3X_2.0 said:
Because here is the place to talk about these nerd stuff and not on ******* twitter lol
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It's why I cringe whenever I see stuff like Outerversal on stuff outside the wiki. That type of stuff only makes sense in an indexing wiki, not in a general sense.

And a good chunk of people who throw around 1-A ratings outside the wiki I feel have no idea what 1-A actually is.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Because here is the place to talk about these nerd stuff and not on ******* twitter lol
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understandable

it just sounded like you hated it

Emirp sumitpo said:
a good chunk of people who throw around 1-A ratings outside the wiki I feel have no idea what 1-A actually is.
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tbf, i also have no idea what those multi dimensional space time "transcending laws" shenanigans mean either lol, i just know it exists, and that it's stupid
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
It's why I cringe whenever I see stuff like Outerversal on stuff outside the wiki. That type of stuff only makes sense in an indexing wiki, not in a general sense.

And a good chunk of people who throw around 1-A ratings outside the wiki I feel have no idea what 1-A actually is.
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It's like, people legit watch/read a series WITH NO FEATS FROM THIS TIER AT ALL and yet they keep throwing it around

"bro trust me Naruto is solar system level" - a manga where a single planet haven't been destroyed
 
M3X_2.0 said:
It's like, people legit watch/read a series WITH NO FEATS FROM THIS TIER AT ALL and yet they keep throwing it around

"bro trust me Naruto is solar system level" - a manga where a single planet haven't been destroyed
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It's really just because it sounds powerful and they wanna wank their series that high.
 
Guys what are your predictions for Vol 27 cover pic

My predictions are like this (Chances of them getting)
  • Takaba 90%
  • Kenjaku (Nurse version) 4%
  • MBA Kashimo 2%
  • True Form Sukuna 2%
  • Uraume 2%
 
M3X_2.0 said:
"bro trust me Naruto is solar system level" - a manga where a single planet haven't been destroyed
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and get hit with the good ol DC =/= AP

people abuse it more than they do their spouse at this point and it's annoying because every time you mention the inconsistencies they tell you "you're stupid and have no idea how to scale" as they follow a bunch of rules nobody ever made because yk, it feels right, so why not

i can get behind the idea that authors don't draw collateral damage all that often but that should only be taken in select cases and analyzed in a step by step basis, a nuke tier character punching the ground full strenght and having it only show a couple of cracks here and there then nothing else says a lot about the character's actual tier
 
Passersby said:
delete everything else and multiply this by 50 then you get an accurate result, set your expectations as such and in the off chance you're wrong rejoice over the fact that you won't have to see sukuna's ugly mug in the cover
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The thing is True form Sukuna is still running the Gauntlet so he has higher chance of getting Cover page in Vol 28 or 29. Takaba Chances of getting the cover page is higher this time.
 
Passersby said:
and get hit with the good ol DC =/= AP

people abuse it more than they do their spouse at this point and it's annoying because every time you mention the inconsistencies they tell you "you're stupid and have no idea how to scale" as they follow a bunch of rules nobody ever made because yk, it feels right, so why not

i can get behind the idea that authors don't draw collateral damage all that often but that should only be taken in select cases and analyzed in a step by step basis, a nuke tier character punching the ground full strenght and having it only show a couple of cracks here and there then nothing else says a lot about the character's actual tier
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Spit your shit. Same thing with using travel speed =/= combat speed to justify why an MFTL character can't catch up to a speeding car or smth
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Thats gay bro
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His costume only covers half of his body so logically we should be able to get a pick at his dick
 
Weird that Yuta hasn't got his own Volume cover since regular serialization. So I'm 100% sure now that he will get one when the volumes catch up to his fight with Sukuna.
 
Giannysmag said:
Same thing with using travel speed =/= combat speed to justify why an MFTL character can't catch up to a speeding car or smth
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appearently the guy can't use his MFTL arms to push himself in the general direction of the car, or use the revolutionary idea of running with his hands because appearently he skipped leg day just a bit too much, i guess he just never tought about that lol
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
It can't be... Its them!
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They at least have the excuse of only being MFTL with stands, but I'm still gonna say they count to piss off M3X
M3X_2.0 said:
Weird that Yuta hasn't got his own Volume cover since regular serialization. So I'm 100% sure now that he will get one when the volumes catch up to his fight with Sukuna.
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If i had to guess the volume covers will go
27 Takaba
28 Yuta or Heiankuna
29 Yuji or Heiankuna
 
Passersby said:
appearently the guy can't use his MFTL arms to push himself in the general direction of the car, or use the revolutionary idea of running with his hands because appearently he skipped leg day just a bit too much, i guess he just never tought about that lol
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Even better if the character has infnite/immeasurable combat speed yet they need finite time to reach a certain location
 
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