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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Now we are starting to take Gojo hyping up his students on the same level as him seriously 😭
If it wasn't enough, then you have Kenjaku straight up telling you that Yuta will never be a Gojo level character or more, based on his own analysis.
Then we have Megumi even disagreeing with gojo on him becoming a gojo level character too.
Then we have Yuji reiterating what Nanami said, who told Yuji that if you wanna become a sorcerer, don't try to reach his level or something like that, which Yuji brought up to the others, with quite literally nobody disagreeing, especially Yuji who's on the same mind as Nanami.
Literally, Gojo has been hyping up his students (straight up glazing) yet you have the ones he's glazing disagreeing with him, and the additional outside party like Kenjaku, who disagrees with Gojo on Yuta being Gojo level.
All of this is about talent, and maybe even extending to potential for some.
Higuruma is like, the only exception here, as there is a narrator clutch to rely on, and with Kenjaku being only interested in HIM. That ought to tell you something.
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I mean to be honest each one of the students he really was galzing could be on his level in due time.

yuta is 17 and was exposed to Jujutsu at 16, he has a busted domain, high level RCT and is one of the 4 known special grades he could absolutely get to those gojo level given time.

Yuji went from not know what jujutsu is to being damn near special grade in half a year, if he unlocks sukuna's CT he will be on gojo's level in 5 years.

Hakari is quesionable but his JP is busted and if he learns RCT and a few other techniques like DA he'd legit be able to reach gojo levels in due time.
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
. Now we are starting to take Gojo hyping up his students on the same level as him seriously 😭
If it wasn't enough, then you have Kenjaku straight up telling you that Yuta will never be a Gojo level character or more, based on his own analysis.
Then we have Megumi even disagreeing with gojo on him becoming a gojo level character too.
Then we have Yuji reiterating what Nanami said, who told Yuji that if you wanna become a sorcerer, don't try to reach his level or something like that, which Yuji brought up to the others, with quite literally nobody disagreeing, especially Yuji who's on the same mind as Nanami.
Literally, Gojo has been hyping up his students (straight up glazing) yet you have the ones he's glazing disagreeing with him, and the additional outside party like Kenjaku, who disagrees with Gojo on Yuta being Gojo level.
All of this is about talent, and maybe even extending to potential for some.
Higuruma is like, the only exception here, as there is a narrator clutch to rely on, and with Kenjaku being only interested in HIM. That ought to tell you something.
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This dude MIGHT be from Rosa’s community. Rosa invited him to VSBW
 
Gun's right.

The students get glazed and then we have more experienced sorcerers (Kenjaku and Sukuna) talk down on them. Imma listen to Kenjaku and Sukuna.
 
Arkenis said:
Gun's right.

The students get glazed and then we have more experienced sorcerers (Kenjaku and Sukuna) talk down on them. Imma listen to Kenjaku and Sukuna.
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funny you should say that considering that both the "experienced sorceres' will die to the students, kenny is already gone by yuta's hands and sukuna is gonna get the left, right goodnight special soon enough
 
Sir_sun_man said:
funny you should say that considering that both the "experienced sorceres' will die to the students, kenny is already gone by yuta's hands and sukuna is gonna get the left, right goodnight special soon enough
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Wait for Sukuna to make a statement like 'he was running away from Yuji at the speed of light, but Yuji was faster than that.' Then he would switch up and say we shouldn't trust Sukuna's words.
 
Sir_sun_man said:
funny you should say that considering that both the "experienced sorceres' will die to the students, kenny is already gone by yuta's hands and sukuna is gonna get the left, right goodnight special soon enough
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Zero relevance to what I said. "Kenny is gone by Yuta's hands" we're talking about skill and experience here, not surprising attacking a curse energy depleted Kenjaku.

EldemadeDityjon said:
Wait for Sukuna to make a statement like 'he was running away from Yuji at the speed of light, but Yuji was faster than that.' Then he would switch up and say we shouldn't trust Sukuna's words.
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No that would be consistent with how Gege sets speed standards in verse so I'd be fine with it.
 
Arkenis said:
Zero relevance to what I said. "Kenny is gone by Yuta's hands" we're talking about skill and experience here, not surprising attacking a curse energy depleted Kenjaku.


No that would be consistent with how Gege sets speed standards in verse so I'd be fine with it.
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I don’t disagree that Kenjaku is nerfed, but Yuta already had Kenjaku level speed
 
Rosa said:
Yuji is stated to have the potential to one day not only surpass Gojo but make the categorisation of "special grade" itself meaningless, are we REALLY shocked that Yuji is growing at the fastest rate in the series?
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Gojo is already making the categorization of special grade itself meaningless too. Kinda stated.
"fastest rate"
mahito be like:


EldemadeDityjon said:
He has known about how RCT works he even says
"I have never been able to do it before"
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which doesn't mean several years. Just that he couldn't do it before. That's all there is to it. Unironically the before part would be gojo casually trying red 😭 which is like, some days ago.
EldemadeDityjon said:
whose members also had red and purple, wouldn't have left notes for RCT, as it is crucial for using Red.
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Just a manual. That's all there is to it. And it is basic stuff.
 
Arkenis said:
Tanked two Black Flashes and made him step his game up. Yuji just isn't the one.
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YukaSama4 said:
More like "anything that destroys my argument"
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Just wrong. Everything I've had a problem with are things blatantly shown to be unclear in verse. Gojo's praise of his students is deadass just shown to be false time and time again. During Shibuya he thought he they could handle it, Megumi gives up on life, Nobara DIES, and Yuji needed Todo to bring him back to his senses. Hakari's over there struggling against a damn twink, and Yuta just got destroyed relying on Yuji's soul attacks that HAVE DONE NOTHING. Maki the only one putting in work right now, took two BFS, caused Sukuna to get excited like he just got told "Nah you bout it"

Gojo's praise is based off nothing and shouldn't be used to measure the students at all.
 
All Imma say, if Yuji got hit by two black flashes he's crying and asking "why's it always me, why am I so weak?! I couldn't protect Nanami, I couldn't save Megumi, Yuta's dead, Maki's all alone, Choso's having to teach me RCT MID COMBAT, I'm useless, I'm a useless cog"

Chad Maki doesn't care about a thing, she got hit by black flash from Sukuna twice, and she came back to throw hands. I read Maki Kaisen, you read Luji Kaisen
 
Arkenis turned into a motivated reasoner

Also like real talk, every disaster curse is getting a domain expansion off before Shinjuku Yuji reaches them. .2 second domains are “insanely fast,” and Yuji took damn long to reach mahito in that time. They got no chance
 
You're judging Gojo's statement by their current versions which invalidates it immediately

Sukuna already proved how the 10S has the potential to rival Gojo

Current Yuta is a much better sorcerer than Gojo at his age

And you also forgot Yuji, you said Maki is the only one putting in work atm which is incredibly false, Yuji has done far more than her

Also you kept hyping Uro above because she's from heian era blah blah but now you're dissing Hakari because he is still not winning against Uraume whos also a heian era sorcerer, insane double standards
 
Sir_sun_man said:
@Arkenis you're lucky I have maki as my second favorite character otherwise I'd hit ya with some vile shit right about now
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Maki is lowkey a mid character. She’s mean to everyone that’s a good person in the series, and she’s insufferable. Also none of her moments are actually cool.

1. She throws the ball at Todo
2. She’s a bad sister
3. She kills innocent people
4. She is an anti feat machine
5. Her fighting style is super one note
6. Everything good about her, she gets it from Toji

Human Naoya is infinitely cooler than Maki
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Now we are starting to take Gojo hyping up his students on the same level as him seriously 😭
If it wasn't enough, then you have Kenjaku straight up telling you that Yuta will never be a Gojo level character or more, based on his own analysis.
Then we have Megumi even disagreeing with gojo on him becoming a gojo level character too.
Then we have Yuji reiterating what Nanami said, who told Yuji that if you wanna become a sorcerer, don't try to reach his level or something like that, which Yuji brought up to the others, with quite literally nobody disagreeing, especially Yuji who's on the same mind as Nanami.
Literally, Gojo has been hyping up his students (straight up glazing) yet you have the ones he's glazing disagreeing with him, and the additional outside party like Kenjaku, who disagrees with Gojo on Yuta being Gojo level.
All of this is about talent, and maybe even extending to potential for some.
Higuruma is like, the only exception here, as there is a narrator clutch to rely on, and with Kenjaku being only interested in HIM. That ought to tell you something.
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Not sure what there is to disagree with here.
If you have his own students, who understands their own body, limits and all that more than Gojo does, disagree with Gojo's estimation, and even other outside sources like Kenjaku (Sukuna is reliable for the part when it comes to others. For Yuji he is questionable) then using Gojo as a trustworthy source on talent puts your belief in question. Not the first time gojo had been wrong about others. See in the fanbook where Gege says Gojo was wrong about the fingers. (Gojo's analysis)
Like, characters in JJK can be wrong. It ain't the first time. Kenjaku and his own student however? when it concerns talent and potential? No.
If there were truly gojo level talents in the series then where are the constant hype about their talent? I don't see anybody being expressed as a pure talented figure liie Higuruma and Gojo is? Why is there no further balance being broken with such figures being born? ""Beyond gojo level"" talented figures or on his level?
Only GOJO has this. Only gojo so far has been called as a "rare prodigy even without the six eyes", only gojo had been able to shake the balance of the world just by his birth, with only the six eyes in place (You don't get your ct until a certain age)
Only gojo is stated MULTIPLE several times to be capable of doing anything at will, based off of on his pure jujutsu talent, and we see this expressed in Sukuna vs Gojo battle, expressing how Gojo does the impossible to possible.

Point being made here is that: There is quite literally no character with Gojo's potential. If there was, you'd definitely see the world balance go on some real Crack 😭 IT definitely would if Gojo was right. Though it isn't because nobody is realistically as talented as gojo is. That's not to mention the fanbook expressing Limitless as the strongest ct, too.
Potential (Six eyes + Limitless)
Talent: The obvious. (Your progress)
And so far? Higuruma is the only one to rival Gojo in talent.

If you think Gojo's talent isn't that convincing, then sure. Ask him why he suddenly hopped multiple tiers above after just one life and death battle, (teen rct gojo) whereas many other students that gojo has, had never went through such a growth in one go? And it's not like Gojo has any real challenge to begin with when there is the infinity to shield him and reduce pressure little to nothing for one to grow from. (Which like, MANY many of his students constantly go through, not just necessarily life and death battle)
I haven't seen anyone grow to such a level where they started casually blitzing someone who they were previously equal to earlier, much less easily statue blitz.

Gojo might just have one of the most craziest first (life and death) ever growth rate amp in series low-key. Ain't seen anybody else go through such level of increase in stats in one go and achieve two other moves that are extremely difficult to achieve (Limitless isn't known as the most complex ct for nothing after all). as well as core of ce alongside rct, that allowed him to "revive" himself.
Mahito might be second given his achievement of domain expansion (though a special grade CS) of a complete version in one go in near death. Higuruma third.
 
Guacamolefletcher said:
I’m NGL, reading the Maki vs Naoya fight, I was rooting for Naoya and thinking “yeah, she’s a fake! Naoya is the one that stands with them!”
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He should've had something else, him acting higher than her when he got the same ct Naobito has lost to Toji just aint make sense
 


Some or most here are valid to prove that Gojo knows quite a few martial arts. Especially with the support of point movement and linear movement one, that proves he knows martial arts. That one belongs to a system of martial arts, which encompasses many forms of martial arts.
 
Arkenis said:
He should've had something else, him acting higher than her when he got the same ct Naobito has lost to Toji just aint make sense
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Naobito never fought Toji, TF are you talking about

TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Some or most here are valid to prove that Gojo knows quite a few martial arts. Especially with the support of point movement and linear movement one, that proves he knows martial arts. That one belongs to a system of martial arts, which encompasses many forms of martial arts.
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He’s bad at it though. Maki, a rookie, is better than him (stated)
 
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