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I'm talking about Toji fighting them, not them fighting each other.No because then Ogi would know Naobito’s power and he doesn’t
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I'm talking about Toji fighting them, not them fighting each other.No because then Ogi would know Naobito’s power and he doesn’t
that just suggests they knew him, which makes sense, not fought him
This is dumb as **** because it’d mean Ogi ~ Naobito which is wrong. Also taking this as meaning Toji fought them is complete headcanon
go ahead and prove it.Gege literally stated it
????This is dumb as **** because it’d mean Ogi ~ Naobito which is wrong. Also taking this as meaning Toji fought them is complete headcanon
You’re saying it like you’re saying they tried 2v1ing Toji. Also you say it like Ogi vs Toji was even a fight, which is a problem in and of itself. Ogi can’t remotely keep up.????
what was the source of the scan where it said Ogi's statements of being Naobito's equal were unfounded and that he was actually significantly below?You’re saying it like you’re saying they tried 2v1ing Toji. Also you say it like Ogi vs Toji was even a fight, which is a problem in and of itself. Ogi can’t remotely keep up.
Gege lil browhat was the source of the scan where it said Ogi's statements of being Naobito's equal were unfounded and that he was actually significantly below?
it might be a fake scan knowing youGege lil bro
He said Naobito wins easy peasy, and Ogi likely doesn’t know Naobito’s power well
Are you ******* kidding dude… Rosa turned into ait might be a fake scan knowing you
NO???You’re saying it like you’re saying they tried 2v1ing Toji.
That’s what it sounds like when you say it like thatNO???
I'm not. They fought him individuallyThat’s what it sounds like when you say it like that
I don't watch his content, out of 10 how accurate are his takes? I've debated him twice and so far his takes have been:I first found the scan in a Cursed Valor video
He’s one of the “this person’s holding back” debaters, where he’ll give you an elaborate headcanon to why for example Yuji is holding back on Choso, and that’s why he can match Yuta later on instead of that feat just downgrading Yuta to subsonic, which he isI don't watch his content, out of 10 how accurate are his takes? I've debated him twice and so far his takes have been:
- Gojo is relative in speed to base Mahito
- 15F Sukuna would mid diff Gojo
- Kenjaku low diffed Yuki and was holding back when she punched through his arms
Nah Uraume just got faster by hundreds of times.A lot of these “X was holding back” arguments are baseless and headcanon to maintain agendas
Just like “Uraume was holding back on Shibuya” as an excuse for him being slower than PB
From what I noticed, more than half of Sukuna fans actually used to believe 15F Sukuna will beat Gojo which is funnyI don't watch his content, out of 10 how accurate are his takes? I've debated him twice and so far his takes have been:
- Gojo is relative in speed to base Mahito
- 15F Sukuna would mid diff Gojo
- Kenjaku low diffed Yuki and was holding back when she punched through his arms
I can see why. Gojo was out of the story for 3 years and Sukuna had an insane run in Shibuya, immediately after the former got sealed. There would be a lot of recency biasFrom what I noticed, more than half of Sukuna fans actually used to believe 15F Sukuna will beat Gojo which is funny
Uraume does say they hold back against everyone tho, verbatim, so...A lot of these “X was holding back” arguments are baseless and headcanon to maintain agendas
Just like “Uraume was holding back on Shibuya” as an excuse for him being slower than PB and Mhs+
Send the video you're referencingHe’s one of the “this person’s holding back” debaters, where he’ll give you an elaborate headcanon to why for example Yuji is holding back on Choso, and that’s why he can match Yuta later on instead of that feat just downgrading Yuta to subsonic, which he is
"Maximum output: Frost calm"Uraume does say they hold back against everyone tho, verbatim, so...
blah blah blah"Maximum output: Frost calm"
That seems to be in their cursed technique use as they activate an unknown ability and say they'll crush Hakari with the full extent of their power. Nothing suggests they hold back physical capabilities.Uraume does say they hold back against everyone tho, verbatim, so...
Uraume thought lowly of Choso and was surprised by the speed, hence why they had a delayed reaction and complimented it.That seems to be in their cursed technique use as they activate an unknown ability and say they'll crush Hakari with the full extent of their power. Nothing suggests they hold back physical capabilities.
If anything the fact Uraume would consider PB fast even though they're holding back doesn't make sense. Not to mention their late reaction to pb as well.
Yeah it's totally that and not that the verse just has very conservative speed scalingUraume thought lowly of Choso and was surprised by the speed, hence why they had a delayed reaction and complimented it.
This interpretation might work in a different context but Uraume was ready to react and couldn't till it was cms away. If Uraume really is superior to the speed they'd have been able to adjust/reinforce/amp/whatever within miliseconds before it got within a meter near them.Uraume thought lowly of Choso and was surprised by the speed, hence why they had a delayed reaction and complimented it.
CE reinforcement also amps your reaction speed, so not necessarily, plus Uraume reacting whilst it was close to them bumps up the feat if anything - shorter time frame for them to move in.This interpretation might work in a different context but Uraume was ready to react and couldn't till it was cms away. If Uraume really is superior to the speed they'd have been able to adjust/reinforce/amp/whatever within miliseconds before it got within a meter near them.
That's my point, if Uraume really is superior to it then their reinforcement would've been done far faster than the time it took for pb to get so close. And no reacting when something is closer doesn't mean a better feat. Reacting far before pb could have gotten near is the better feat, you can read this for a better understanding.CE reinforcement also amps your reaction speed, so not necessarily, plus Uraume reacting whilst it was close to them bumps up the feat if anything - shorter time frame for them to move in.
if their reaction time isn't as fast then them having a delayed reaction to PB and only amping themselves last minute is coherent.That's my point, if Uraume really is superior to it then their reinforcement would've been done far faster than the time it took for pb to get so close. And no reacting when something is closer doesn't mean a better feat. Reacting far before pb could have gotten near is the better feat, you can read this for a better understanding.
Do you accept that Yuji (Shibuya Incident arc) is canonically slower than piercing blood also meaning slower than 343 m/s too for both on-site and off-site purposes or do you think he can amp himself to supersonic speeds in bursts?if their reaction time isn't as fast then them having a delayed reaction to PB and only amping themselves last minute is coherent.
No because it doesn't make sense that they would be capable of amping themselves to move nearly that fast. I do accept that characters blitzing others shouldn't be like nearly as impressive though.if their reaction time isn't as fast then them having a delayed reaction to PB and only amping themselves last minute is coherent.
You're lost, reread the series please.supersonic for god tiers.
This doesn't address what I'm saying though. If Uraume is really superior to PB then their activation of reinforcing their eyes would be faster than PB, unless you think Uraume has slow reinforcement of their eyes.if their reaction time isn't as fast then them having a delayed reaction to PB and only amping themselves last minute is coherent.
Respond to the first questionYou're lost, reread the series please.
Uraume is still a god tierThe whole Uruame PB thing is bum considering they're stronger and fatser than before
I don't know of any confirmation of Toji fighting Naobito or Ogi. However, they both have some level of fear and/or respect of his power/capabilities. The most of the Zenin clan were deathly terrified of him and there was a statement saying Toji could have easily become the head of the Zenins on his strength alone if they'd give a curse-less being a shot. He must have done something to gain that reputation, unless there's some technique or cursed tool/object to measure how strong Toji was but I doubt it.Its heavily implied he and ogi did fight him in the past.
LoLThe whole Uruame PB thing is bum considering they're stronger and fatser than before