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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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I mean I think he is mainly saying that it is not a 1 to 1 for CE and output and that is true, Since I'd say that having the same amount of CE as 1F sukuna would not mean you have even half of 1F sukuna's output? So you think 1F Sukuna = 20F Sukuna?
how do you think JP Hakari got a better output when he got increased ce reserves
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Mahito Says Jogo has more Raw CE than sukuna, but his soul built different
Gojo judges that Jogo is probably more POWERFUL than Sukuna based on the blasts(he's wrong on jogo being stronger and is just basing this off Jogos CE capacity)
its like two direct statements that jogo has more CE than 3F
So no.
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Why would he need Mahoraga? Wy would he take the risk to fight Gojo? he already had the prison realm.
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1F Sukuna and 20F have same ce control. That doesn't mean their output is the same. More fingers give Sukuna more ce reserves and that translates to more output. This is how it has been for Sukuna in the series. For Hakari, JP only gives him infinite ce. he obviously can't use all of it, but the increase in CE output is obvious.
I thought all of this was obvious?
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why wouldn't he acquire mahoraga who's got one of the best ct in verse and can adapt to anything. why wouldn't he use it to also kill off the entire gojo clan, a total Wipeout.
It helps with dealing with people who are stronger than him or are troublesome. We know this since he's been getting packed by six eyes users on and on. they're his nemesis.
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that's not the problem for him though? he specifically saught out the prison realm to deal with the two issues 6 eyes pose because, while he can kill the six eyes users (killed the baby one) they seem to just spring up when the merger happens so instead of dealing with that possibility just seal em away and be done with it. Far simpler and easier to do than having to go out of his way and mess with potentially losing the one CT he needs to pull of the merger.
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(you'd think so but half the fanbase can't read so ya know...)
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? He has lots of spots for ct's, so a 10S ain't really anything to say no about at all. and yeah that's a problem for him. he could simply just wipe out the gojo clan. how's the six eyes gonna pop up then when the entire bloodline is gone?
secondly, again, 10S was already within his sights long ago when it comes to dealing with the gojo clan. Not to mention the versatility of the kit, the potential of the kit (spamming summoning mahoragas in the domain? Shadow Clone type of shi like megumi did?) etc is far too valuable. He wouldn't even need to care about six eyes users anymore if he had Mahoraga, because they're all a victim to mahoraga to begin with. At that point, the merger would be guaranteed to succeed.
ur right.
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Oh yeah I forgot about that, now that Kenny's reaction feat is valid all we need is someone to calc it (iirc the current calc up for it was badly rejected)
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dude I think he can do that at any point when there are no 6 eyes around, we really do not know how the bloody hell a 6 eyes user showed up when kenny killed the 6 eyes baby prior.
are you certain about that? I am more than sure a good chunk of the 6 eyes users could end maho.
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Not to mention Yuki states she could dodge Gravity from Kenjaku, even at close range.
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JJK is feasting with upgrades after this chapter, you can tell how much the BF cap was holding back the verse. Relativistic+ JJK can actually be a thing now which is crazy
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Yes thats true
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It’s hilarious how many people said that JJK being rel to FTL are just wanking and in search of endless upgrades are now forced to face the most consistent and constant amount of MHS to Rel feats ever.
I’ve already thought of counterarguments to the arguments people are going to make towards all of this.
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Watch Sukuna say "Im currently as strong as i was during shibuya" next chapter
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Town level yuji ig
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doubt that, he is at less than 10F worth of CE, unless he somehow got back 5 fingers worth of energy out of nowhere than ain't no way
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Reserves =/= output, so its still possible
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Jump Kaisen but on JJK general
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I mean true but less reserves means you can't quite put as much into output
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Hmm, i dont think thats how it works + 10f worth of Ce is still alat
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I mean think of it this way;
Say you have a full tank of CE you can use 40% to constantly pump into reinforcement as to not get ****** over by basic attacks, you can pour 60% into your CT when you use it for that sweet sweet power output and if you chose you can forgo you CT in exchange for a domain expansion which you embue with said CT.
If you lose 25% of your full tank all of a sudden you can't pour quite as much CE into either reinforcment nor your CT meaning your output will drop one way or another, you may be hyper efficient with your CE so that the drop isn't an exact 1 to 1 to the CE drop but you will still have a lesser output due to the decrease, same thing will happen again if you lose an extra 25% going to 50% of your total.
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Ok I guess that makes sense
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Then the gojo clan wouldn't know anything about the past then, neither would it be one of the three big clans dude. What I mean by that is that, Kenjaku would have certainly tried this, because Six eyes is tied to the gojo clan bloodline to begin with. It wouldn't exist even if the fate of the six eyes is tied to Tengen. Because how else could you have a gojo clan member if there isn't a gojo clan bloodline?
Clearly they weren't just a bunch of fodders, with or without the six eyes users.
So my point still stands that Mahoraga is a exceptionally great tool to kill the six eyes users with limitless ct already. given the fact that untamed Maho killed that person.
How many has limitless ct and six eyes at the same time? very few. It's also why HP is so rarely known to few people. And we know a untamed mahoraga murked a six eyes limitless user.
And yeah, I'm pretty sure the Zenin clan and Gojo clan being enemies with each other over conflicts like this event from 400 years ago, is quite telling that none of the six eyes user were opponents for Maho whatsoever. Heck, nobody in Zenin could ever tame Mahoraga whatsoever to begin with, in history.
You can also try to team up and exorcise it, but it's still said that nobody has ever succeeded whatsoever. Considering the enmity between zenin clan and gojo clan, there are bound to be sparks between six eyes users that are non limitless users, so there's that. But ignoring that, a head of gojo clan, specifically one with six eyes and limitless ct, lost. Gojo himself thinks that is noteworthy, so it most likely isn't some newbie scrub limitless user but one with blue, red and purple. As Megumi says they died to untamed Maho.
That being said, this still doesn't address the fact that, upon obtaining a shikigami successfully, you can further strengthen it. Mahoraga, who's base stats are 3F level, would be further strengthened if controlled. Meaning: A almost guaranteed way to kill any six eyes users no problem. And even to completely destroy the gojo clan. Kenjaku can also camp and wait for the current six eyes users to get old before striking as well, and eliminate the clan in one fell swoop.
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? Yeah we know there are characters who can't output all of their ce. That's still irrelevant to the fact that upon gaining more ce, even if you can't use up all of your ce reserves to output, the output would still increase considerably. If Yuta had ce reserves matching Ryu's, he would utterly lose.
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? How is that a speed scale? Just curious.
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I am not to sure of that, since both kamo and zenin clan's aren't all that great without their main clan CT like at all. Maki was able to full on oblitirate the full clan without trying while a foot into the grave and not fully awakened and I hope its not too much of a take to say Kenny>that Maki.
I honestly think that kenjaku may have simply not had a good enough body to do any of close to what he is able of doing in Geto's (who himself is pretty damn tough) and by the time a 10S user was available and he had a strong body that 10S user was under gojo's care so taking that risk was just not in the cards.
and my point stands that we do not have enough info about previouse kenny bodies and their strength levels and maho not being important to kenny past prison realm.
about 3 that we know of including gojo, but I mean there aren't that many six eyes users in the first place, we know of about like 5-6, two which kenny got his ass handed to by, one that he killed as a child, gojo, the one that died to maho who could be one of the two that beat kenny and the OG 6 eyes user some 1000 years ago.
we know of but a single interaction between the two and we don't know when exactly the whole clan conflict began for all we know it could've been exactly at the point of the 10S and 6 eyes user's death, we know that there haven't been many 6 eyes users since (if any) and we don't know if previouse 6 eyes users have come up against maho before.And yeah, I'm pretty sure the Zenin clan and Gojo clan being enemies with each other over conflicts like this event from 400 years ago, is quite telling that none of the six eyes user were opponents for Maho whatsoever. Heck, nobody in Zenin could ever tame Mahoraga whatsoever to begin with, in history.
If you do an exorist ritual with help it becomes null and void per this pannel:
so we don't know if Maho has been beaten before with the help of multiple people, we just know that not one of the 10S users prior to sukuna has been able to 1v1 Maho and live afterwards.
again we have no clue what bodies kenny had before hand we even see him outright saying that the body he had when he made the deal with kashimo was not suited for Combat and was asking kashimo to spare him while kashimo was on deaths door so I actually doubt that the previouse bodies kenny had where anywhere near Geto's or had CT's anywhere close to that level of bullshit like geto nor where their stats up to par and past the point of kenny getting Geto the one and only 10S users was not only under Gojo but later had becomes stuck in the crosshairs of sukuna and kenny was not messing with that shit what so ever.
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Gravity is SOL.
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The Goat.
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I mean it is the first shonen of this era to actually reach the levels of the old greats like naruto, bleach and one piece (and I'd say even surpass them in certain aspects)
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My goat's helping us out even from beyond the grave
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Jjk speed scaling vs Opm 4d scalingMy goat's helping us out even from beyond the grave
Who will rat more?
Giannysmag
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OPM has 4d scaling?
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Yeah apparentlythere is someone with "void blade" that comes from higher dimension and ignores distance energy and durability
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Change it to JJK AP scaling now since Rel+ JJK actually might be a thing
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Buddhism or smth
