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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

YukaSama4 said:
Gojo at 17 had a domain too, so the sure hits will negate each other, Gojo was able to blitz Toji and he has purple, he's destroying Yuta.
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Where it was stated Gojo had domain at 17 years? Also Dhruv Shikigami sure hits works independently from domain and Yuta should be capable of using Angel CT himself (I'm talking in case If he is not dumb). Toji and Maki are below Yuta 😐
 
YukaSama4 said:
Gojo at 17 had a domain too, so the sure hits will negate each other, Gojo was able to blitz Toji and he has purple, he's destroying Yuta.
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one awakened gojo referes to the one that just got RCT and purple so no domain.

two Yuta as of demonstrated feats has a better refined domain than teen gojo with sukuna himself complimenting how good his barrier tech is.

three yuta currently has better output than what we've seen of awakened gojo so he beats him in both output and refinement.


the moment that domain comes out gojo is cooked
 
Sir_sun_man said:
one awakened gojo referes to the one that just got RCT and purple so no domain.

two Yuta as of demonstrated feats has a better refined domain than teen gojo with sukuna himself complimenting how good his barrier tech is.

three yuta currently has better output than what we've seen of awakened gojo so he beats him in both output and refinement.


the moment that domain comes out gojo is cooked
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Yeah forgot having output and better refined domain can overpower other domains. Yeah even if Gojo had domain it would be useless (Btw can I see the scan for Gojo having domain when he was 17 years). I don't remember reading that.
 
After some thinking about it, Gojo’s win condition is to be faster than Yuta.
EldemadeDityjon said:
Where it was stated Gojo had domain at 17 years?
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Sir_sun_man said:
one awakened gojo referes to the one that just got RCT and purple so no domain.
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Im talking about Awakened Gojo who was the same age as Yuta, 17, because that's Gojo’s age after the one-year time skip after hidden inventory right?
Sir_sun_man said:
two Yuta as of demonstrated feats has a better refined domain than teen gojo with sukuna himself complimenting how good his barrier tech is.
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No, his domain isn't refined enough, just because he can use a specific target doesn't mean good refinement as I will explain later, even current Gojo can't do that but there's no way you will argue that Yuta will beat Gojo in a domain clash, he is just good in barrier usage.

Having the same amount of CE as Sukuna but still getting your sure hit neutralized by a low output technique is a clear anti-feat to Yuta having high output/refined sure hit, HWB, SD, and those techniques have low outputs compared to DE. Yet, the output of HWB is enough to neutralize Yuta’s DE, Gojo at 17 has almost perfected most of the techniques he used in the modern era except that he didn't have long-range teleportation, his domain wasn't as strong as it is now, and he couldn't use blue and red simultaneously to his punches and movements. Hence, his CE manipulation is still insane as well as his output, he has the six eyes which even surpasses Sukuna’s manipulation of CE, and Yuta’s domain isn't gonna overpower him.

EldemadeDityjon said:
Also Dhruv Shikigami sure hits works independently from domain and Yuta should be capable of using Angel CT himself (I'm talking in case If he is not dumb). Toji and Maki are below Yuta
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Yeah, Dhruv’s CT will work but I can't see that killing Gojo.

EldemadeDityjon said:
Yeah forgot having output and better refined domain can overpower other domains. Yeah even if Gojo had domain it would be useless (Btw can I see the scan for Gojo having domain when he was 17 years). I don't remember reading that.
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I meant this one, he was saying he needs to work on his domain more, so he had a domain just not as strong as his domain in the modern era.


Having said this, I would also like to wait for Maki to join the battle if she turns out to have similar speed to Yuta then Gojo imo will still beat Yuta because he is noticeably faster than Toji, the moment he uses purple Yuta is finished, if Maki is slower then Yuta will probably win because I think Gojo’s win con here is to be faster and uses purple, maybe even red would be enough because Yuta wouldn't be able to maintain his domain after that, other than that he will be on the defense, and Yuta will hit him with Jacobs ladder.
 
Speaking about maintaining domains, Yuta took heavy damage here tbh, similar to Sukuna but his domain is still up, maybe open domains are harder to maintain?
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Mr.Cinos15 said:
Yo guys, double scenario fun question for y'all.

First scenario, what grade of sorcerer do y'all believe you would be if you were plucked from irl and put into JJK and were given time to train and become a proper sorcerer (so you have all the knowledge of the manga and the power system)?

Second scenario, what grade do you believe you would be if you were born into the Jujutsu society and raised to become a sorcerer? Assume that this version of you is similar to yourself, just that they've been raised into this and don't have irl style knowledge of the power system.

And if you feel like it, you could also describe what CT you would have.
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-I excel in school and everyone tells me there's so much I can accomplish in my lifetime
-I'm very quiet and keep to myself usually
-I'm very careful about how I do things
-I'm a bit lazy and sometimes I just don't even imagine myself in the future being that good
-I care about specific individuals more than multiple people

Holy shit I'm potential man

So, seriously, I'd probably be around Grade 2 and be stuck there until I get off my ass
 
YukaSama4 said:
After some thinking about it, Gojo’s win condition is to be faster than Yuta.


Im talking about Awakened Gojo who was the same age as Yuta, 17, because that's Gojo’s age after the one-year time skip after hidden inventory right?

No, his domain isn't refined enough, just because he can use a specific target doesn't mean good refinement as I will explain later, even current Gojo can't do that but there's no way you will argue that Yuta will beat Gojo in a domain clash, he is just good in barrier usage.

Having the same amount of CE as Sukuna but still getting your sure hit neutralized by a low output technique is a clear anti-feat to Yuta having high output/refined sure hit, HWB, SD, and those techniques have low outputs compared to DE. Yet, the output of HWB is enough to neutralize Yuta’s DE, Gojo at 17 has almost perfected most of the techniques he used in the modern era except that he didn't have long-range teleportation, his domain wasn't as strong as it is now, and he couldn't use blue and red simultaneously to his punches and movements. Hence, his CE manipulation is still insane as well as his output, he has the six eyes which even surpasses Sukuna’s manipulation of CE, and Yuta’s domain isn't gonna overpower him.


Yeah, Dhruv’s CT will work but I can't see that killing Gojo.


I meant this one, he was saying he needs to work on his domain more, so he had a domain just not as strong as his domain in the modern era.


Having said this, I would also like to wait for Maki to join the battle if she turns out to have similar speed to Yuta then Gojo imo will still beat Yuta because he is noticeably faster than Toji, the moment he uses purple Yuta is finished, if Maki is slower then Yuta will probably win because I think Gojo’s win con here is to be faster and uses purple, maybe even red would be enough because Yuta wouldn't be able to maintain his domain after that, other than that he will be on the defense, and Yuta will hit him with Jacobs ladder.
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"I have to work on my domain"
Statement implies he hasn't created his domain yet.aa HWB and SD shouldn't be having any problem with negating effects of stronger domain. Sukuna and Gojo's domain has equal sure hit effects still Gojo while weakened was able to use SD to counter Sukuna's sure-hit for some time. Anyway I would still say there are multiple statements puts Toji & Maki way below current Yuta.
 
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Sir_sun_man said:
Honestly I am a prideful bastard with some rather undesirable tendencies for today's society which would lead me to pushing the limits of CE manipulation and CT use so I'd see myself as grade 1 if just ploped in right now with the current knowledge and personality I have

Now if I was born into the jujustu society I could see my worst tendencies being amplified to a massive extent which is good for my power and bad for everyone else as I would likely act similar to fellas like kenjaku and that would propel me into the top of grade 1 to possibly low special grade.

As for CT I very much think mine would be solar manipulation or the ability to create and manipulate plasma which can be used to burn, blind, melt or irradiate opponents and Probably a CE trait of sun burns which would cause who ever is struck to have a burning sensation similar to that of a sun burn
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Damn, my boi got the proper mindset to reach the top, Uraume might consider not human like they do with Hakari and Sukuna. With that CT I would not be surprised if you would challenge anyone with a fire/heat based CT (about to challenge Jogo and Sukuna's fire arrow). Wouldn't be surprised if you fought Uraume down the line and a clash of heat and cold is born.

Sir_sun_man said:
also thought about it more and decided on a secondary ability to the CT which would be a similar thing to kashimo's CT cept way less potent with far lesser consequences that being the ability to heat up or burn my CE to receive a large stat boost aka becoming faster stronger more durable at the expense of well actually burning my CE as in making it run out way faster than it usually would, basically gaining a 3-4x boost to my stats at the expense of expanding most of my CE in like 5 mins.


Also thought about a domain and came up with out

The solar vistas: the opponent is dropped onto an every expanding plane of plasma as if dropped onto the surface of the sun itself however the people that reside within the domain do not reach the plasma and seemingly hover above it alongside the caster, there is no sure hit within the domain but as a result the caster possesses a near total control of the environment of the domain being capable of causing solar ejections akin to solar flares which will cause any electrical based CT's and traits to be tempered with and weakened while also being able to heavily burn the person it hits and similar to the chimera shadow garden the caster is capable of pushing the opponent into the sea of plasma below them causing massive damage through basically swimming in the corona of the sun, however the caster can't simply will their opponent to fall into the corona and has to physically force them into it

The domain hand sign:
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Surya mutra
The hand sign of the sun.
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Bro even has the hind sign and Domain down, actual sorcerer right here.
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
Yo guys, double scenario fun question for y'all.

First scenario, what grade of sorcerer do y'all believe you would be if you were plucked from irl and put into JJK and were given time to train and become a proper sorcerer (so you have all the knowledge of the manga and the power system)?

Second scenario, what grade do you believe you would be if you were born into the Jujutsu society and raised to become a sorcerer? Assume that this version of you is similar to yourself, just that they've been raised into this and don't have irl style knowledge of the power system.

And if you feel like it, you could also describe what CT you would have.
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Btw, if you think you would be a special grade, then give at least a basic explanation as to why (Like with what Sun said, I could believe him being a Special Grade).
 
eibwen said:
The current me might just be too much of a lazies and coward do to anything
tho if i somehow gain some motivation I might just tried to swallow some cursed object for that soul manipulation, so a very high grade 1 or grade 4/normal person/dead
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Sounds pretty risky but hey, you do what you gotta do I guess. I feel you though on not having the drive of trying to get too high.
eibwen said:
I'd be a kenjaku andy, lurking for power and trying to understands the world
my techniques would be like takaba, if I dont understand something it just wouldnt work on me, but then if my opponent explained their technique to me then GG (I must understand that for it to work, acceptance wouldnt count)
my DE would gives me the misinformationed I have about my opponents power as power to me, same rules with my technique, if they can debunk my knowledges then that power goes away
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So this is you? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Iihiko_Shishime

(Read his Notable attack section).
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
-I excel in school and everyone tells me there's so much I can accomplish in my lifetime
-I'm very quiet and keep to myself usually
-I'm very careful about how I do things
-I'm a bit lazy and sometimes I just don't even imagine myself in the future being that good
-I care about specific individuals more than multiple people

Holy shit I'm potential man

So, seriously, I'd probably be around Grade 2 and be stuck there until I get off my ass
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Well, let's hope you actually realize that potential instead of always being potential man.

I can definitely see you being a really strong Grade 2 (like high Grade 1 strength) that's only stuck because going higher is too much work.
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
Sounds pretty risky but hey, you do what you gotta do I guess. I feel you though on not having the drive of trying to get too high.

So this is you? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Iihiko_Shishime

(Read his Notable attack section).
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i'd say a weaker version, cuz if the effect is simple enough then i cant just ignore my knowledge to lowballed the attack
a car running at 250km/h is a car running at 250km/h
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
I wonder at this point Gege might have forgotten Maki?
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Maybe or it's just that there isn't much more for Maki, narrative wise. She's taken out the Zenins but doesn't have anyone else to take on that offers the same catharsis as some of the other fights. Yuji and Sukuna are pretty obvious. Yuta taking on Kenjaku and Sukuna make sense as he's fulfilling the role of Gojo's 2nd/semi-official successor. For Maki, outside of doing the right thing and protecting her friends, she doesn't have anything deeply personal against the current opposition. I still have hope she'll pull of something epic! :cool:
 
Why is everyone interpreting that 20F Sukuna with half of his CE is equal to 10F Sukuna?

This doesn’t make any sense, at all.
 
I wouldn't say he is 10F level but his output drop is below 15F level for sure. Looking at how Ryu received a big damage from casual dismantle while Yuta and Yuji receiving less damage despite their durability supported to be weaker than Ryu.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
I wouldn't say he is 10F level but his output drop is below 15F level for sure. Looking at how Ryu received a big damage from casual dismantle while Yuta and Yuji receiving less damage despite their durability supported to be weaker than Ryu.
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Difference is Ryu was hit point blank by dismantle while Yuta and Yuji mostly got slashed from afar
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
I wouldn't say he is 10F level but his output drop is below 15F level for sure. Looking at how Ryu received a big damage from casual dismantle while Yuta and Yuji receiving less damage despite their durability supported to be weaker than Ryu.
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Sukuna doesn't say they have lower dura than Ryu, just that their dura doesn't surpass his.
 
YukaSama4 said:
Why not
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Because that’s not how the fingers work. They don’t just add CE to Sukuna’s unlimited pool, he also regains some of his original form which is much more valuable than CE gain.

Sukuna’s CE pool right now is on pair with Yuta’s, which doesn’t mean he’s weaker, since CE quantity doesn’t (necessarily) equal to strength.

His output is decreasing, yeah, but we don’t know by how much, and we don’t know how strong his CT output and his reinforcement output is.

Saying he’s at 10F output is wrong, he just have less CE than normal, and his output is weak.

Anything other than that is headcanon unless the manga states otherwise.
 
Giannysmag said:
Oh i see, iirc there's a few different calcs for the black hole, which are you using?
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Large Planet level. A coin size BH is enough to destroy the normal planet. Yuki BH was pretty big enough. Is it necessary to use Calculations when BH in JJK has direct statement for having bigger size nukes bigger planets?
 
It just occurred to me that Yuki is ranked Special Grade despite no one knowing her technique until she reveals it

...and she didn't get to show much of herself without her technique, revealing it during her only fight in the series
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
It just occurred to me that Yuki is ranked Special Grade despite no one knowing her technique until she reveals it

...and she didn't get to show much of herself without her technique, revealing it during her only fight in the series
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Vibe check probably. Everyone can tell how strong Sukuna, Gojo, Yuta, Dagon, and Jogo are off of just their cursed energy. The same I assume happened with Yuki, where enough people felt it and just went "Probably a threat to the nation."
 
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