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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Arkenis said:



Bros forgetting Sukuna had Gojo's counter, was on Gojo's level and Gojo was nerfed during the 3v1 too.
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That tweet is disingenous

The 1v3s are impressive for different reasons

Gojo for his sheer sustainability, unkillability, and being able to hold the advantage while getting jumped

Sukuna for holding it down in a war of attrition while having to sustain an anti-domain technique against a domain with multiple different techniques
 
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eibwen said:
It just too funny to me that all these anti domain techniques barely doing anything in the sukuna-gojo fight, taking account of gojo total CE is less than half of sukuna's
and now when the two sides have the same amount of CE, guess what
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HWB is doing something good Unlike SD. SD has time limit as far as we have seen and it's a domain for the weak to temporarily buy time that's all. Also Gojo having Less CE than Sukuna means nothing. Output is what matters.
 
Arkenis said:
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Still can't get above Ryu's physicals is just funny
Arkenis said:


Bros forgetting Sukuna had Gojo's counter, was on Gojo's level and Gojo was nerfed during the 3v1 too.
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While I won't comment on which 3 vs 1 impressive.

But I'm going to be that guy and say this. Sukuna was hiding behind Shadow for most of the fight, so it's 2 vs 1 (most of the fight) against Gojo, then 3 vs 1. Unlike Yuta/Rika, Agito, or Mahoraga, who lack durability negating techniques like Dhruv's Shikigami or Uro's Thin Ice Breaker, Agito and Sukuna only had openings when Mahoraga touched Gojo. Also, if you buy into the idea of Agito and Mahoraga being on Yuta and Agito's level, not to mention Gojo who got his output back with Black Flash, while Sukuna, who is really nerfed, is getting nerfed. Not to mention, Agito and Sukuna barely did anything during that fight; Sukuna was concentrated on giving Maho orders to create World Slash while Agito was just a distraction.
Overall What I'm saying is I disagree with Gojo getting nerfed in 3 vs 1 fight. His only weakness during that fight was Mahoraga while he got his output back with BFs. He didn't got nerfed instead he was getting amped.
Just gonna repeat myself before I get attacked by Some Gojo fan girls. I'm not commenting on whose fight is impressive. Just talking about Arkenis point of Gojos getting nerfed. I just Disagree with that.
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EldemadeDityjon said:
Still can't get above Ryu's physicals is just funny

While I won't comment on which 3 vs 1 impressive.

But I'm going to be that guy and say this. Sukuna was hiding behind Shadow for most of the fight, so it's 2 vs 1 (most of the fight) against Gojo, then 3 vs 1. Unlike Yuta/Rika, Agito, or Mahoraga, who lack durability negating techniques like Dhruv's Shikigami or Uro's Thin Ice Breaker, Agito and Sukuna only had openings when Mahoraga touched Gojo. Also, if you buy into the idea of Agito and Mahoraga being on Yuta and Agito's level, not to mention Gojo who got his output back with Black Flash, while Sukuna, who is really nerfed, is getting nerfed. Not to mention, Agito and Sukuna barely did anything during that fight; Sukuna was concentrated on giving Maho orders to create World Slash while Agito was just a distraction.
Overall What I'm saying is I disagree with Gojo getting nerfed in 3 vs 1 fight. His only weakness during that fight was Mahoraga while he got his output back with BFs. He didn't got nerfed instead he was getting amped.
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Just like Sukuna got weakened, Gojo's output was weakened till black flash.
 
I was thinking, the gap between Gojo and the second strongest, Yuta, is quite big.

One was manhandling Sukuna, the other is holding his own against a Sukuna with low CE output, low RCT and no Domain.

But… Gojo is much older than Yuta, and he also has more experience with Jujutsu than Yuta.

Comparing them at the same age (16):

Yuta: Could learn RCT in less than 3 months after his first contact with Jujutsu, and he can also heal others, something Gojo can’t do even in his peak. In the same timeframe, defeated a Special Grande Sorcerer.

Gojo: Took 12 years to learn RCT since first contact with Jujutsu (At 4 we saw him with Toji, meaning he already had his first contact; was 16 during Hidden Inventory), got his ass beaten by Toji before he had to awaken.

Now comparing them with 17:

Yuta: Is fighting Sukuna, the strongest character in the verse and actually holding his own, has a better barrier technique control than Gojo.

Gojo: Was finishing/finished his Domain mastery.

Tldr: In the same age, Yuta far outclasses Gojo.
 
Arkenis said:
Just like Sukuna got weakened, Gojo's output was weakened till black flash.
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Gojo had already hit one BF even before 3 vs 1 become a thing. Additionally he used Chants to regain his RCT output. Let's not forget Sukuna was stated to be recovering from the BF+Blue amped punch means he was not in a good condition. Gojo still had Major ability advantage & getting recovered. Hitting one BF would already get Sorcerer to athletic state.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Gojo had already hit one BF even before 3 vs 1 become a thing. Additionally he used Chants to regain his RCT output. Let's not forget Sukuna was stated to be recovering from the BF+Blue amped punch means he was not in a good condition. Gojo still had Major ability advantage & getting recovered. Hitting one BF would already get Sorcerer to athletic state.
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That was so Red was actually worth a damn. Black Flash is what restored his general output including RCT
 
M3X_2.0 said:
I was thinking, the gap between Gojo and the second strongest, Yuta, is quite big.

One was manhandling Sukuna, the other is holding his own against a Sukuna with low CE output, low RCT and no Domain.

But… Gojo is much older than Yuta, and he also has more experience with Jujutsu than Yuta.

Comparing them at the same age (16):

Yuta: Could learn RCT in less than 3 months after his first contact with Jujutsu, and he can also heal others, something Gojo can’t do even in his peak. In the same timeframe, defeated a Special Grande Sorcerer.

Gojo: Took 12 years to learn RCT since first contact with Jujutsu (At 4 we saw him with Toji, meaning he already had his first contact; was 16 during Hidden Inventory), got his ass beaten by Toji before he had to awaken.

Now comparing them with 17:

Yuta: Is fighting Sukuna, the strongest character in the verse and actually holding his own, has a better barrier technique control than Gojo.

Gojo: Was finishing/finished his Domain mastery.

Tldr: In the same age, Yuta far outclasses Gojo.
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Yeah I was about to say the same thing. People forget Gojo is 29 years old while current generation is around 15-20 years. They are doing pretty impressive feats on their own compared to when Gojo was their age.

Btw Potential man is impressive too if you ask me. I know it's incomplete domain but still I think that was impressive for his age.
 
Though I'd be more against the potential man meme if he at least got the other three that aren't Mahoraga

ffs we still don't know what Tiger Funeral does
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Though I'd be more against the potential man meme if he at least got the other three that aren't Mahoraga
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Lol.
TS is busted enough that you don't need to learn RCT. Idk why Megumi didn't tamed tranquil Deer when it would have given him good advantages in many fights
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ffs we still don't know what Tiger Funeral does
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Likely claws? Snake also barely does anything. Same goes for frog.
 
It took Gojo over a decade to learn what Yuta did in less than 3 months, it took him even more time to fully mastery a Domain Expansion. It took only roughly 2 years.

If Yuta survives, he’s definitely surpassing Gojo at the same age.
 
Since r/Jujutsushi doesn’t accept my post because I don’t have karma, I’ll post it here.

At the same age, Yuta far outclasses Gojo

When we talk about “potential” in Jujutsu Kaisen, we often joke about Megumi being the “potential man”. I’ve also seen some jokes about Yuji’s potential being low because he’s mostly a brawler. We also have Higuruma and his talent equal to Satoru Gojo’s thing, which I think translates to potential.

But we don’t talk too much about one character, maybe because he’s mostly a fully realized sorcerer at a such young age: Yuta.

I’m going to use Gojo’s as the method of comparison, since he’s strongest sorcerer of the modern day.

At the age of 16:

Yuta: In less than 3 months since his first contact with Jujutsu, Yuta could learn RCT and even heal others, something even Gojo at his peak, can’t. In the same timeframe, he defeated a Special Grade Sorcerer.

Gojo: His first contact with Jujutsu was when he was 4 (When he met Toji), and went on to learn RCT when he was 14 years old, 12 years after his first contact. He also got his ass beaten by Toji, although can’t really compare that with Yuta beating Geto.

At the age of 17:

Yuta: Is facing the King Of Curses, the strongest character of the verse, Sukuna, and holding his own very well. Defeated Kenjaku, the most knowledgeable Sorcerer of all time. Has a fully manifested Domain Expansion, can exclude others from the sure-hit effect of his Domain, while Gojo cannot.

Gojo: Was mastering (or already did) his Domain. I don’t actually remember how old Gojo was when he said he was finishing his Domain.

I was thinking why that the gap between Gojo, the strongest, and Yuta, the second, is that big, but the answer is obvious: Gojo is much older, more knowledgeable and experienced Sorcerer than Yuta. It’s been decades since Gojo first learned about Jujutsu, but only two years for Yuta. And in the same two years, he’s way stronger than Gojo was in more than a decade.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
Since r/Jujutsushi doesn’t accept my post because I don’t have karma, I’ll post it here.

At the same age, Yuta far outclasses Gojo

When we talk about “potential” in Jujutsu Kaisen, we often joke about Megumi being the “potential man”. I’ve also seen some jokes about Yuji’s potential being low because he’s mostly a brawler. We also have Higuruma and his talent equal to Satoru Gojo’s thing, which I think translates to potential.

But we don’t talk too much about one character, maybe because he’s mostly a fully realized sorcerer at a such young age: Yuta.

I’m going to use Gojo’s as the method of comparison, since he’s strongest sorcerer of the modern day.

At the age of 16:

Yuta: In less than 3 months since his first contact with Jujutsu, Yuta could learn RCT and even heal others, something even Gojo at his peak, can’t. In the same timeframe, he defeated a Special Grade Sorcerer.

Gojo: His first contact with Jujutsu was when he was 4 (When he met Toji), and went on to learn RCT when he was 14 years old, 12 years after his first contact. He also got his ass beaten by Toji, although can’t really compare that with Yuta beating Geto.

At the age of 17:

Yuta: Is facing the King Of Curses, the strongest character of the verse, Sukuna, and holding his own very well. Defeated Kenjaku, the most knowledgeable Sorcerer of all time. Has a fully manifested Domain Expansion, can exclude others from the sure-hit effect of his Domain, while Gojo cannot.

Gojo: Was mastering (or already did) his Domain. I don’t actually remember how old Gojo was when he said he was finishing his Domain.

I was thinking why that the gap between Gojo, the strongest, and Yuta, the second, is that big, but the answer is obvious: Gojo is much older, more knowledgeable and experienced Sorcerer than Yuta. It’s been decades since Gojo first learned about Jujutsu, but only two years for Yuta. And in the same two years, he’s way stronger than Gojo was in more than a decade.
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17 years old

I don't disagree but a sorcerer's growth rate isn't necessarily a linear slope. It also seems like Yuta is just getting there really, really quickly
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Lol.
TS is busted enough that you don't need to learn RCT. Idk why Megumi didn't tamed tranquil Deer when it would have given him good advantages in many fights
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I'm sure for Megumi is more about time to do so and the true difficulty of taming shikigami not being clear because Sukuna did it with ease. Megumi had maybe two weeks to a month after Shibuya to recover and deal with his new world. Then he's gotta save his sister, find Yuji, and unseal Gojo. His free time to get into a fight with a shikigami and potentially get his ass kicked got cut short short.

And also, something like Tranquil Dear doesn't appear to be a problem but its ability to disrupt CE with its ability is probably a headache because that might just lead into you losing the shikigami you want to try and fight the dear with getting dispelled or its physicals are just that good that it can reliably put up a fight against someone like Megumi who only ever has one to two shikigami out at once, and who burns through cursed energy fast when he's going for his big hits.
 
It would've been better and more high stakes for story progression if Sukuna waited for Megumi to awaken his potential and the Ten Shadows to then take him as a vessel
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Piercing Ox as well. It can increase its power a lot even with a short distance
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Piercing Ox may be somewhat difficult to tame I guess? It was giving trouble to even Yorozu
Sir_Marvulous said:
Divine Dog Totality 💀
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Wasn't dog was specialised for its teeth & smelling skills.
I hope Gege drops a Fanbook for Abilities but I don't have enough hope he does.
Duedate8898 said:
I'm sure for Megumi is more about time to do so and the true difficulty of taming shikigami not being clear because Sukuna did it with ease. Megumi had maybe two weeks to a month after Shibuya to recover and deal with his new world. Then he's gotta save his sister, find Yuji, and unseal Gojo. His free time to get into a fight with a shikigami and potentially get his ass kicked got cut short short.

And also, something like Tranquil Dear doesn't appear to be a problem but its ability to disrupt CE with its ability is probably a headache because that might just lead into you losing the shikigami you want to try and fight the dear with getting dispelled or its physicals are just that good that it can reliably put up a fight against someone like Megumi who only ever has one to two shikigami out at once, and who burns through cursed energy fast when he's going for his big hits.
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Yeah this makes some sense. What about using long range attacks with Nue and Elephant?

I wonder if User using Cursed tools and taming the Shikigami is allowed. Looking at the fact outside help is considered to null the ritual.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Piercing Ox may be somewhat difficult to tame I guess? It was giving trouble to even Yorozu
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Maybe Megumi could do it after getting Tranquil Deer and then Tiger Funeral, whatever the hell it's supposed to do
EldemadeDityjon said:
Wasn't dog was specialised for its teeth & smelling skills.
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Divine Dogs, yes. Totality makes it a bipedal, stronger version with claws

Though Tiger Funeral could still be responsible for Agito's claws while its primary function is unknown
EldemadeDityjon said:
I hope Gege drops a Fanbook for Abilities but I don't have enough hope he does.
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This is most likely how we're gonna learn about some of these things if at all
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Maybe Megumi could do it after getting Tranquil Deer and then Tiger Funeral, whatever the hell it's supposed to do

Divine Dogs, yes. Totality makes it a bipedal, stronger version with claws

Though Tiger Funeral could still be responsible for Agito's claws while its primary function is unknown

This is most likely how we're gonna learn about some of these things if at all
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TCB translation name looks cooler. Mourning Tiger. John werry lacks sense of naming.
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Yo guys, double scenario fun question for y'all.

First scenario, what grade of sorcerer do y'all believe you would be if you were plucked from irl and put into JJK and were given time to train and become a proper sorcerer (so you have all the knowledge of the manga and the power system)?

Second scenario, what grade do you believe you would be if you were born into the Jujutsu society and raised to become a sorcerer? Assume that this version of you is similar to yourself, just that they've been raised into this and don't have irl style knowledge of the power system.

And if you feel like it, you could also describe what CT you would have.
 
Duedate8898 said:
Grade 3 all the way. I don't have the ego of a sorcerer nor do I really care to actually be a good one. Unless I'm misfortunate enough to be born to like the Zenin or Kamo's, I don't imagine I'll ever have that drive to willingly put myself in any greater peril nor be prepared for it.
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Honestly same, Instead of trying to be the strongest or reach the top, I would just be focusing on mastering the power system and my own CT since I would be immensely interested in what Cursed Energy can do (like Kenjaku but to a non psychotic extent ofc) both irl and in verse (I also don't wanna die). So who knows, maybe a Grade 3 that somehow learned how to use RCT (I also really wish that Technique Reversal was used by anyone other than Gojo).
 
Can anyone send me the scans for Yuki training Todo or something similar to show she trained him. I need it for her profile. Almost finished it only few scans needs to be added.
 
Mr.Cinos15 said:
Yo guys, double scenario fun question for y'all.

First scenario, what grade of sorcerer do y'all believe you would be if you were plucked from irl and put into JJK and were given time to train and become a proper sorcerer (so you have all the knowledge of the manga and the power system)?

Second scenario, what grade do you believe you would be if you were born into the Jujutsu society and raised to become a sorcerer? Assume that this version of you is similar to yourself, just that they've been raised into this and don't have irl style knowledge of the power system.

And if you feel like it, you could also describe what CT you would have.
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Honestly I am a prideful bastard with some rather undesirable tendencies for today's society which would lead me to pushing the limits of CE manipulation and CT use so I'd see myself as grade 1 if just ploped in right now with the current knowledge and personality I have

Now if I was born into the jujustu society I could see my worst tendencies being amplified to a massive extent which is good for my power and bad for everyone else as I would likely act similar to fellas like kenjaku and that would propel me into the top of grade 1 to possibly low special grade.

As for CT I very much think mine would be solar manipulation or the ability to create and manipulate plasma which can be used to burn, blind, melt or irradiate opponents and Probably a CE trait of sun burns which would cause who ever is struck to have a burning sensation similar to that of a sun burn
 
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also thought about it more and decided on a secondary ability to the CT which would be a similar thing to kashimo's CT cept way less potent with far lesser consequences that being the ability to heat up or burn my CE to receive a large stat boost aka becoming faster stronger more durable at the expense of well actually burning my CE as in making it run out way faster than it usually would, basically gaining a 3-4x boost to my stats at the expense of expanding most of my CE in like 5 mins.


Also thought about a domain and came up with this

The solar vistas: the opponent is dropped onto an ever expanding plane of plasma as if dropped onto the surface of the sun itself however the people that reside within the domain do not reach the plasma and seemingly hover above it alongside the caster, there is no sure hit within the domain but as a result the caster possesses a near total control of the environment of the domain being capable of causing solar ejections akin to solar flares which will cause any electrical based CT's and traits to be tempered with and weakened while also being able to heavily burn the person it hits and similar to the chimera shadow garden the caster is capable of pushing the opponent into the sea of plasma below them causing massive damage through basically swimming in the corona of the sun, however the caster can't simply will their opponent to fall into the corona and has to physically force them into it

The domain hand sign:
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Surya mutra
The hand sign of the sun.
 
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Mr.Cinos15 said:
Yo guys, double scenario fun question for y'all.

First scenario, what grade of sorcerer do y'all believe you would be if you were plucked from irl and put into JJK and were given time to train and become a proper sorcerer (so you have all the knowledge of the manga and the power system)?
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The current me might just be too much of a lazies and coward do to anything
tho if i somehow gain some motivation I might just tried to swallow some cursed object for that soul manipulation, so a very high grade 1 or grade 4/normal person/dead
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Second scenario, what grade do you believe you would be if you were born into the Jujutsu society and raised to become a sorcerer? Assume that this version of you is similar to yourself, just that they've been raised into this and don't have irl style knowledge of the power system.
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Mr.Cinos15 said:
And if you feel like it, you could also describe what CT you would have.
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I'd be a kenjaku andy, lurking for power and trying to understands the world
my techniques would be like takaba, if I dont understand something it just wouldnt work on me, but then if my opponent explained their technique to me then GG (I must understand that for it to work, acceptance wouldnt count)
my DE would gives me the misinformationed I have about my opponents power as power to me, same rules with my technique, if they can debunk my knowledges then that power goes away
 
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