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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Arkenis said:
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So Cleave got a weakness and Ryu is strong asf
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Cleave doesn't have weakness. Sukuna needs to make a physical contact to use Cleave (except inside the domain). His normal slashes are dismantle.
 
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
That’s not how it works. 15F Sukuna couldn’t even kill Ryu without a serious cleave, there’s no way he’s only at 10F fingers.
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Cept he definitly is at around that or less since 1. yuji's punches actually weaken his output and CT control 2. his CE has dropped to less than half of his total amount 3. he isn't capable of killing either yuji or yuta with his usual attacks similar to ryu except he is throwing out a dozen more than he did against ryu.

He is at like 10 fingers at most currently.
 
Arkenis said:
Anyone have something to add here? Will probably do one for Gojo next.
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" Sukuna must first make direct contact with his targets for Cleave to do fatal wounds[2] though not in domain"

Thats not what that says, it literally is saying that they are so tough that he actually has to get into close range to kill them with cleave, the actual weakness should be like this "his cleave gets weaker at longer ranges with him stating that he had to make direct contact to kill someone as durable as Ryu Ishigori.

Also mark your stuff with spoilers dude the chapter isn't offiically out yet
 
Sir_sun_man said:
Cept he definitly is at around that or less since 1. yuji's punches actually weaken his output and CT control 2. his CE has dropped to less than half of his total amount 3. he isn't capable of killing either yuji or yuta with his usual attacks similar to ryu except he is throwing out a dozen more than he did against ryu.

He is at like 10 fingers at most currently.
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It’s not less than half, he’s directly around Yuta’s level - the same person who could go toe to toe with Ishigori, who with LESS CE, could eat a casual dismantle. There’s nothing stating he’s at 10F of strength, that’s just a headcanon.
 
Sir_sun_man said:
Thats not what that says, it literally is saying that they are so tough that he actually has to get into close range to kill them with cleave, the actual weakness should be like this "his cleave gets weaker at longer ranges with him stating that he had to make direct contact to kill someone as durable as Ryu Ishigori.
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Says it right here it activates when he touches his opponent
 
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
It’s not less than half, he’s directly around Yuta’s level - the same person who could go toe to toe with Ishigori, who with LESS CE, could eat a casual dismantle. There’s nothing stating he’s at 10F of strength, that’s just a headcanon.
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brother man yeah and guess what Yuta's level of CE is.
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less than half of sukunas total
he is currently at 10 fingers worth of his cursed energy at best
 
Just noticed but the same way Gojo had to fight against three opponents, Sukuna has to as well.

The strongest always has to be jumped :unsure:
 
Sir_sun_man said:
brother man yeah and guess what Yuta's level of CE is.
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So by this logic, if CE is exponential, you’re okay with Hakari being the strongest in the verse and High 3-A via infinite CE, right? Can we scale Kashimo to High 3-A? Your argument falls short because it’s not about the amount of cursed energy, its output. His output has not been stated anywhere to be at 10F levels.
 
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
So by this logic, if CE is exponential, you’re okay with Hakari being the strongest in the verse and High 3-A via infinite CE, right? Can we scale Kashimo to High 3-A? Your argument falls short because it’s not about the amount of cursed energy, its output. His output has not been stated anywhere to be at 10F levels.
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my guy what do you think the fingers are exactly? they are sukuna's cursed energy and soul parts they don't all of sudden increase his output by a 10 bajilion or some such,

Sukuna's output between 15 finger and 20 fingers is fully dependent on the actual amount of CE he has acess to (and I would honestly scale 15 fingers to high 7-C but hey ain't happening) his current output is hampered even more than simply having less CE to pour into output but also due to yuji screwing with his soul weaking him further.

As for your example of hakari its also simply not looking at the facts of what the output is, output of character is similar to the size of a water faucet even though increasing the water behind the faucet wouldn't praportianally increase its output it would still increase it none the less or hakari's output and strength wouldn't be effected by jackpot what so ever and yet we see he got faster, his durability improved his attacks became stronger and so forth, its simply like having an ocean's worth of water behind a basic faucet it would start shooting water out like a beam at one point but its overall output would be less than a faucet 10 times its size (Sukuna). However this is a two way street because if you decrease the amount of water behind the bigger faucet the output would also start droping untill it began simply pouring out drops of water instead of waves.
 
Arkenis said:
Yeah it can definitely lead to him ending up dead if he goes and gets ones that isn't fatal or does damage like the others
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He has a backup smh, I noticed that he can use Uro's CT and cursed speech without their sword, maybe the CTs that he copied by achieving his CT conditions can be used normally, however for the CTs that he didn't fulfill the conditions, he can't use them unless he's in his domain by using the swords.

When he copied Charles' CT, Sukuna was about to kill Yuji by touching him directly, Yuta at theat moment used cursed speech to stop Sukuna.
 
YukaSama4 said:
He has a backup smh, I noticed that he can use Uro's CT and cursed speech without their sword, maybe the CTs that he copied by achieving his CT conditions can be used normally, however for the CTs that he didn't fulfill the conditions, he can't use them unless he's in his domain by using the swords.

When he copied Charles' CT, Sukuna was about to kill Yuji by touching him directly, Yuta at theat moment used cursed speech to stop Sukuna.
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This actually made me wonder, can Yuta just block the slashes with Uro's ct? Otherwise he's just using it for hiding ig
Also it seems that cursed speech was from a sword Yuta picked up
 
Arkenis said:
This actually made me wonder, can Yuta just block the slashes with Uro's ct? Otherwise he's just using it for hiding ig
Also it seems that cursed speech was from a sword Yuta picked up
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In the flashback they said Sukuna cut Uro into pieces so he probably cant, although it's possible also to say that Sukuna did that using his domain sure hit
 
YukaSama4 said:
He has a backup smh, I noticed that he can use Uro's CT and cursed speech without their sword, maybe the CTs that he copied by achieving his CT conditions can be used normally, however for the CTs that he didn't fulfill the conditions, he can't use them unless he's in his domain by using the swords.

When he copied Charles' CT, Sukuna was about to kill Yuji by touching him directly, Yuta at theat moment used cursed speech to stop Sukuna.
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As for Sorcerers can only store 4 CT at best otherwise they would get their brain fried or something. I think Yuta stores 4 CT himself & he uses Rika or Domain for additional CT usage.
 
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Tony_di_bugalu said:
Wasn't Meguna nerfed to 3F when he killed Ryu?

Damn Gege hyped yuta only to be dogwalked by Jogo and above.
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Nah. Meguna was nerfed when he was fighting Yuji and Maki. Ryu got destroyed by Full power 15F Sukuna. You can say Megumi might have some influence there because Meguna still hasn't killed his sister. But still, that shouldn't massively decrease his output.

Btw Ryu > Jogo. Jogo was getting sliced to pieces with dismantle while Ryu tanked it.
 
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