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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Giannysmag said:
I am Gojo's biggest dckrider and even i will admit thta Mahito and Higuruma have far more potential than him.

For Mahito specifically, we know Sukuna thought that with the right mindset Jogo would have reached Gojo's level. Jogo explicitly says that Mahito has more potential than him as well as having Sukuna's mindset
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uh cool, you can think that despite what gege has built and shown us if you want.

yeah, he thought that based on a Gojo who has never shown his full strength? Idk why you think that as valid. And what? The mindset is something that Mahito has like Sukuna does. Nothing about Mindset + potential = more here.

give gojo sukuna's mindset and watch him be far ahead anybody else in verse
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
uh cool, you can think that despite what gege has built and shown us if you want.
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Gege has repeatedly stated that certain characters have the potential to surpass Gojo, even Gojo himself has said so multiple times.
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
yeah, he thought that based on a Gojo who has never shown his full strength?
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He clearly understands enough of Gojo's strength to see him as the pinnacle of the modern day. He was also there when Gojo won the domain clash against Jogo and explained how UV works, so he has at least some knowledge on how his abilities work
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
Idk why you think that as valid. And what? The mindset is something that Mahito has like Sukuna does. Nothing about Mindset + potential = more here.
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Its been stated over and over again that your mindset effects your potential as a sorcerer. Mahito having Sukuna's selfish mindset means he can tap into every last part of his beyond Gojo levels of potential.
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
give gojo sukuna's mindset and watch him be far ahead anybody else in verse
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Gojo does partially have Sukuna's mindset, did you forget about his whole selfishness speech to Megumi.

Mahito and Higuruma were able to achieve feats and techniques in matter of a few months that Gojo took years to perform. Mahito saw Gojo perform the 0.2 second domain expansion once and was able to replicate it. Higuruma learned DA and RCT in less than two months of being a sorcerer when it took Gojo a near death experience to learn the latter after he had already trained in sorcery for at least a few years
 
Giannysmag said:
Gege has repeatedly stated that certain characters have the potential to surpass Gojo, even Gojo himself has said so multiple times.

He clearly understands enough of Gojo's strength to see him as the pinnacle of the modern day. He was also there when Gojo won the domain clash against Jogo and explained how UV works, so he has at least some knowledge on how his abilities work

Its been stated over and over again that your mindset effects your potential as a sorcerer. Mahito having Sukuna's selfish mindset means he can tap into every last part of his beyond Gojo levels of potential.

Gojo does partially have Sukuna's mindset, did you forget about his whole selfishness speech to Megumi.

Mahito and Higuruma were able to achieve feats and techniques in matter of a few months that Gojo took years to perform. Mahito saw Gojo perform the 0.2 second domain expansion once and was able to replicate it. Higuruma learned DA and RCT in less than two months of being a sorcerer when it took Gojo a near death experience to learn the latter after he had already trained in sorcery for at least a few years
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Giannysmag said:
Gege has repeatedly stated that certain characters have the potential to surpass Gojo, even Gojo himself has said so multiple times.
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Yeah and Gojo has been called out to be wrong for that. He's delusional even. Yuta is a primary example. Kenny straight up thinks he's wrong. This already makes anybody comparable to Yuta in talent, below Gojo Level.
Tell me, how many have been hyped up to have "muh gojo talent and beyond"
the amount of characters that have been stated to have potential surpass gojo just for it to actually not be a huge possibility is laughable.
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He's not even wrong either. Has far more jujutsu knowledge and experience than gojo too btw. With that out of the way, let's take Megumi now:
he is capped by his own talent. It's insane tho..
2023, ppl still think megumi can truly reach gojo’s capacity
we just seen sukuna aka megumi on steroids x1000000 fight gojo extreme diff and somehow some people think he'll reach Gojo level, or beyond.. Sukuna had two CT's and extra knowledge about gojo's abilities like a possible UV weakness too btw 😭 if Sukuna who is hyped to be > the verse in talent and shi, can only match gojo despite having thousands of year of experience and jujutsu skill, open barrier, two ct's and knowledge advantage, then what makes you think these characters that Gojo hypes are valid. They're not.

Who should we trust, the dude who's obsessed with the idea of someone becoming as strong as him and eventually taking his title, or literally everyone else grounded in reality, like Nanami which Yuji mentions to the main cast, who basically said "lmao don't try to be like gojo, he is on a diff level" and nobody even disagreed, they all just swinging with it 😭 But we already have a standard measurement for talent now. Higuruma > the cast in talent and potential to an extent, and Gojo is > Higuruma, either significantly or insignificant amount, choose as you will for these two.
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there's then Uro going to Yuta "ye bro you're at your limit ngl fam". Ryu also thinks that Yuta's mindset somewhat nerfs him.


Giannysmag said:
He clearly understands enough of Gojo's strength to see him as the pinnacle of the modern day. He was also there when Gojo won the domain clash against Jogo and explained how UV works, so he has at least some knowledge on how his abilities work
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doesn't mean that he was outputting 20F levels of power, you're wild for thinking that. Him seeing him as the pinnacle as the modern day is cool and all. RCT teen Gojo was also that. 😂


Giannysmag said:
Its been stated over and over again that your mindset effects your potential as a sorcerer. Mahito having Sukuna's selfish mindset means he can tap into every last part of his beyond Gojo levels of potential.
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Contradicted by the fact that gojo is literally just > the verse in talent, potential and the fact that he has the strongest ct in verse. Contradicted also by the fact that Mahito and other special grade curses like em were born to merely fix the balance that gojo broke when he was literally just born. Mahito is top 3. Sukuna top 2. Gojo #1. it is as clear as day. Pretty sure that Mahito already has that mindset. Mf is a calamity too.


Giannysmag said:
Gojo does partially have Sukuna's mindset, did you forget about his whole selfishness speech to Megumi
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That's not the same as the one Sukuna has, at all. Let's not confuse it here.


Giannysmag said:
Mahito and Higuruma were able to achieve feats and techniques in matter of a few months that Gojo took years to perform. Mahito saw Gojo perform the 0.2 second domain expansion once and was able to replicate it. Higuruma learned DA and RCT in less than two months of being a sorcerer when it took Gojo a near death experience to learn the latter after he had already trained in sorcery for at least a few years
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Mahito is always on fights to experiment, battle and give himself pressure to grow stronger. Example would be the fact that he awakened from a near death amp and was able to activate domain, what about it? Do you think Gojo had the same when he can't have it? Nobody is even able to give him a challenge, and infinity makes it less possible. Toji is his only source of life and death amp 😭 Or someone to push him that far, aka instilling pressure.
Gojo took years to learn RCT??? What. It Took like few days for him to learn it, and that's only after when he actually tries AT THE moment of death, with immense pressure, and a sense of threat, quite literally forcing him to be serious. It's why after Shoko's explanation dude tries it for fun to activate red, and it doesn't succeed. casual gojo 😭 You acting as if these two haven't been constantly growing under pressure and battles with people that aren't just complete ants like how gojo sees others due to his sheer strength.

It's always this attempt to argue Higuruma somehow is beyond Gojo's talent as if there was a wide gap? You are aware that Higuruma is in the same ballpark as gojo right? it is made quite evidently clear.

Mahito replicating a 0.2 second domain expansion after seeing somebody make up that application on the spot, is not as impressive as the one that was able to come up with this thought and implement it successfully 😭, let alone something above Gojo's talent. And that was Gojo's first time too. He never ever did anything like that cuz why else would he need it.

As for Higuruma: Yes? It's as if somebody wasn't explaining to him how DA works, as if he wasn't watching a god tier use DA multiple times, as if he hadn't trained for one month with other talented individuals, sparred with each other and trained... learned new jujutsu knowledge and shi. You acting as if Higuruma didn't have a far better environment than Gojo ever had. One month of training and learning new shi with the gang >>> Gojo's training for years by himself to further master the most complicated and strongest ct in verse. Also dude, Higuruma also learned rct on the verge of death. You act as if few years of jujutsu helps with rct, when it doesn't. Shoko is a primary example 😭 gojo also never understood how rct works until he comprehended it, whereas Higuruma does.

also this argument kinda redundant. the really long essay i made in previous page already addressing most points covered here with many scans too.
 
Giannysmag said:
Honestly really great video, not at all the typical anti powerscaling yapping i expectes it to be
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I know. This writer had good points on some of the inherent flaws/issues (statement validity, fanbase bias, author's intent/knowledge, etc.) that need to be taken into account while acknowledging the genuine interest and narrative importance of power scaling.
 
JnSteHar002 said:
I doubt there is a greater, more euphoric high than surviving a near death experience
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Thats most likely the case.

I mean when I do hard contact sparing with my brother (professional fighter and nation champ) the moment that blood starts pouring out my nose/lip it just gets exhilarating, like the fatigue, the head pain and exhaustion just all vanish away in one single strike.

Its strangely pleasant.

I can only imagine a near death experience after a hard fight, it'd be like everything I already mentioned (and then some) amplified to the power of 100
 
Giannysmag said:
Your brother vs Yuji, equal stats, who wins and what diff
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No bias my brother mid diff.

Yuji is skilled by all means but he has not demonstrated any real skill in grappling other than an arm bar here and there.

My brother is a ******* python when it comes to grappling, the moment he has your arm or leg or does a knee tackle and you go to the ground, unless you are a master of grappling on international level you are done.

so it'd be a few strikes exchanges here and there, it goes to the ground sooner or later at which point its a grappling contest and Yuji gets choked out in 20 seconds flat (funny thing, thats about how long his last professional fight went, the match begins, the opponent throws a few punches, my brother does a knee tackle, brings it to the ground and chokes the guy out before he could do anything... that set a record in the ring for the fastest win), oh and my brother should have a massive reach adventage vs yuji, he is 193cm (6'3) while yuji is 173 (5'8 (damn didn't know yuji is nearly a whole ass foot shorter than me, defenition of short king)) so he would have an easier time in striking and grappling.
 
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Itadori would just kill your brother due to his lack of curse tolerance
Beside, Itadori stamin is pretty ******* insane. I mean, bro got his organs crushed and numeros stabs against Choso and yet he could remain fightning consistenty. So not sure if he is gonna get knock out that easy
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Itadori would just kill your brother due to his lack of curse tolerance
Beside, Itadori stamin is pretty ******* insane. I mean, bro got his organs crushed and numeros stabs against Choso and yet he could remain fightning consistenty. So not sure if he is gonna get knock out that easy
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your pain tolarance can be as high as you want same for stamina, a proper choke will have you out in no time due to; constriction of oxygen, blood flow and high preasure on the brain.
trust me speaking out of expirence here, I have been getting pumpled on the head a lot and I can take a lot but 20 seconds of proper form tringle choke and I was seeing stars (and from a person substentially shorter and lighter than my meat wall of a body)

(also for the whole stab wound I am be honest with you adrenaline will have not feeling shit for quite a while, hell been a case in my town some 5 years back a guy got sabbed 6 times when he smashed some drunks face into the pavement, he didn't notice the actual stab wounds untill his shirt turned red some 10 mins later. many of the stabs where near vital organs)
 
Also dose it feel like the author is making gojo’s explination for his ability unnecessarily complex? Like I’m fine with his ability being complex but I feel like a simpler explanation would help a lot because ever time I feel like I have a good grasp of it he starts spouting a bunch of science mobo jumbo and then I just get confused again.
 
AnAverageUsername said:
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yeah pretty much this.

cutting off the flow of the arteries on the both sides of the neck is bordering on real life hax. This is mainly because if you do manage to get of a tringle choke on somebody that can easily take your punches and kicks without even really taking damage, they are going down despite being 5/6 times stronger than you and that is pretty much the definition of hax, bypassing durability through a specific ability/move.

Tl;dr chocking and grappling is busted in a 1v1.
 
Sir_sun_man said:
your pain tolarance can be as high as you want same for stamina, a proper choke will have you out in no time due to; constriction of oxygen, blood flow and high preasure on the brain.
trust me speaking out of expirence here, I have been getting pumpled on the head a lot and I can take a lot but 20 seconds of proper form tringle choke and I was seeing stars (and from a person substentially shorter and lighter than my meat wall of a body)

(also for the whole stab wound I am be honest with you adrenaline will have not feeling shit for quite a while, hell been a case in my town some 5 years back a guy got sabbed 6 times when he smashed some drunks face into the pavement, he didn't notice the actual stab wounds untill his shirt turned red some 10 mins later. many of the stabs where near vital organs)
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He can also be just fine after this
And this
And this
And probably shouldnt be far from Mahito who can tank a entire combo in the chin
Or Todo
Im not a hater of your brother and I still think he can win via choke. I just don't think that it's possible to knock out Itadori that easy with punchs
 
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