EldemadeDityjon
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Atleast it would have been better justification lol.
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Zenin Clan got all sorts of inherited techniques and the Ten Shadows, Gojo Clan got the Six Eyes and Limitless which all have special grade potential then the Kamo Clan got Blood Manipulation worse than Choso's (and Kenjaku considers him a grade 1 sorcerer). Who let them hang up in the big leagues
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I would like to say on that perspective, Blood Manipulation is far more reliable of a cursed technique than either the Ten Shadows or Limitless. Ten Shadows suffers from the actual best part of the cursed technique being locked away by an insane cap, Mahogara and cursed energy amount. Limitless is cool by itself, but its only insane when the Six Eyes allows for proper maximization. With both techniques, we've benefited from seeing the absolute best users possible take them and make the best possible out of them. Blood Manipulation has the poison which is great for cursed users and cursed spirits, stat amping without a domain or chants, and blood constructs which give different types of avenue for attack.
Blood Manipulation only has Choso, who isn't a chump, but he isn't a Sukuna or Gojo.
Blood Manipulation only has Choso, who isn't a chump, but he isn't a Sukuna or Gojo.
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Tbf Choso is basically the Gojo/Sukuna of blood manip. Since he is half cursed spirit he has unlimited blood and it's poisonous, these are things that no human bm user has
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He's a prodigy for sure, but he's far more on Yuji's or Todo's level then the pinnacles that are Gojo and Sukuna. Someone like Higurama I would hazard is probably more prodigious than him
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I mean pb is at least 1 mach fast, the more you condense it the faster it will be, while the zenin clan has projection sorcery which caps at subsonic speeds, 10S depends heavily on the user skill, Gojo and Sukuna are outliers so I wouldn't count them, but Kamo clan would be at zenins level
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Ten Shadows had the potential to be far more versatile than what Megumi was doing with it. Extension techniques that combine traits of different shikigami, a Totality born from a single shikigami being able to raise another's level to contend with special grades, 9 different shikigami abilities including RCT that can heal others and neutralize CTs. Megumi was only a first year and he had already tamed 6 out of the 9 shikigami that were possible for him to tame.
the Blood Manip from the Kamo Clan have can only poison cursed spirits and I'd argue that their inability to create blood like Choso can is a pretty hard cap, Noritoshi was going to die from circulating his blood and pulling off other techniques. If anything, Choso was the best possible user of Blood Manipulation. There's also Supernova being a Choso-original technique after 150 years.
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I won't even lie, non-CGMs making comments like that as if they're CGMs is the funniest thing ever
Like it's literally this
EldemadeDityjon
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Yeah this is what I was talking about. Kamo clan is slept on by Gege. Only good Blood Manipulation user from Kamo is choso but he is technically Half Spirit so doesn't count.Zenin Clan got all sorts of inherited techniques and the Ten Shadows, Gojo Clan got the Six Eyes and Limitless which all have special grade potential then the Kamo Clan got Blood Manipulation worse than Choso's (and Kenjaku considers him a grade 1 sorcerer). Who let them hang up in the big leagues
But Ten Shadows and Six Eyes with Limitless
Both Gojo and Zenin clans does has potential to give rise special grade Sorcerers
Also even Projection Sorcerery can be used to rise up the ranks if it's used like Naoya and has a good domain like him.
But Kamo clan Blood Manipulation I don't see anyway to get anywhere special grade. Unless they can manipulate opponents blood or something. Which was never shown in the series.
EldemadeDityjon
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Choso has big potential. But i doubt if we get to see that.
His Mixed Blood makes room for big growth. All he needs is some big ass Power boost and a Domain Expansion.
EldemadeDityjon
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I think even if TS users don't tame Mahogara they can be OP (Not same level as Gojo clan with Six Eyes and Limitless) but still to some extent. Projection Sorcerery also has chances for growth. But blood manipulation depends on how much Blood Kamo clans got to use it. It's still underwhelming when compared to Zenin and Kamo clan.
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Kamo and Zenin clan are clearly better than the Gojo clan, there's a reason they get no screen time jk jk. But Gege has confirmed Gojo carries the clan.
But I'm surprised we haven't seen any other members beside that one maid with Kid Gojo. I guess we'll get to see the new head after the this arc when finally put down Sukuna, who will get absorbed or ****** over by Kenjaku, we all know he's the final villain.
But I'm surprised we haven't seen any other members beside that one maid with Kid Gojo. I guess we'll get to see the new head after the this arc when finally put down Sukuna, who will get absorbed or ****** over by Kenjaku, we all know he's the final villain.
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It has potential sure, but in terms of practicality Megumi is never able to do any of this. Only Sukuna who is the definition of an edge case does all of that with Ten Shadows. Megumi taming six shadows is a sign of his own prodigious nature as he's also walking around with a Domain Expansion but also you see the limitations more clearly with him, which is the fact that he just lacks the cursed energy and skill to actually do most of this. He was running low when summoning multiple shikigami cause Max Elephant eats up a lot. And since we also know that Sukuna is the only ever to tame Mahogara, we can't really use all the bull that he does with Ten Shadows to say this is something that the clan showed before.
And yeah I agree with most of that, my thing here is that while Choso is an edge case as well, he's not an edge case on the level of Gojo or Sukuna.
Most of the Gojo clan doesn't ever get the six eyes, most of the Zenin's don't even get ten shadows and ten shadows doesn't ever get to the level that Sukuna shows it at before him.
Trying to define the clans with their exceptions isn't really going to explain why they're the big three
EldemadeDityjon
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Updated Choso profile and created 2 new profiles.
. Haha welcome Eso and Kechizu to vs wiki.
Death Painting Brothers are together now.
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. Haha welcome Eso and Kechizu to vs wiki.Death Painting Brothers are together now.
Choso
Choso (脹ちょう相そう, Chōsō?) is the "older brother" of Itadori and his 9 other brothers siblings who were once just Cursed Womb. Choso is a "person" who is mainly concerned about his brothers, worrying about being a good example and making sure that his brothers do not make the mistakes that he made...
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Eso
Eso (壊え相そう, Esō?) is a Cursed Womb: Death Painting and the middle brother of Choso and Kechizu. He and Kechizu serve as the primary antagonists of the Death Painting Arc. Tier: 8-B Name: Eso Origin: Jujutsu Kaisen Gender: Male Age: Over 150 years old Classification: Cursed Womb: Death Painting...
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Kechizu
Kechizu (血け塗ちず (Kechizu?) is a Cursed Womb: Death Painting and the youngest brother of Choso and Eso. He and Eso serve as the primary antagonists of the Death Painting Arc. Tier: 8-B Name: Kechizu Origin: Jujutsu Kaisen Gender: Male Age: Over 150 years old Classification: Cursed Womb: Death...
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Giannysmag
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Based and bortherpilledUpdated Choso profile and created 2 new profiles.
Death Painting Brothers are together now.
Choso
Choso (脹ちょう相そう, Chōsō?) is the "older brother" of Itadori and his 9 other brothers siblings who were once just Cursed Womb. Choso is a "person" who is mainly concerned about his brothers, worrying about being a good example and making sure that his brothers do not make the mistakes that he made...Eso
Eso (壊え相そう, Esō?) is a Cursed Womb: Death Painting and the middle brother of Choso and Kechizu. He and Kechizu serve as the primary antagonists of the Death Painting Arc. Tier: 8-B Name: Eso Origin: Jujutsu Kaisen Gender: Male Age: Over 150 years old Classification: Cursed Womb: Death Painting...Kechizu
Kechizu (血け塗ちず (Kechizu?) is a Cursed Womb: Death Painting and the youngest brother of Choso and Eso. He and Eso serve as the primary antagonists of the Death Painting Arc. Tier: 8-B Name: Kechizu Origin: Jujutsu Kaisen Gender: Male Age: Over 150 years old Classification: Cursed Womb: Death...
EldemadeDityjon
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Yuji missed out as usual. Gonna fix him up next timeBased and bortherpilled
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I salvaged the pics from normal wiki
. I don't know how to remove the background. So if anyone knows feel free to update it. Also if anyone has more choso canonical pics please update them also.
EldemadeDityjon
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I hope he did. I want Yuji to spam whatever shit he got. Eating Death Paintings would already give him blood manipulation. So I wouldn't be surprised.
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I've said it a lot over the past few days but this time i truly mean this, none of you are ready for Wuji HIMtadori to lay an absolute smackdown on Lukuna
Get ready cause the GOAT is coming
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EldemadeDityjon
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I'm working on Yuji profile can anyone tell me which key should I use advance Sorcerers rating for him
Giannysmag
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Goodwill/Shibuya imo
EldemadeDityjon
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I'm splitting those
Giannysmag
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Why? I dont remember him getting stronger betwen arcs. Either way then i'd say Goodwill since that's when he learns Black FlashI'm splitting those
EldemadeDityjon
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Because I got the solid statement from Shibuya arc. When he fought Mahito his CE control was at peak and can intentionally control Divergent fist because of that. Also his control grow after fighting choso.
Btw Good will and Death Paintings arc should be merged into one. Shibuya should be kept as Seperate.
Giannysmag
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Btw what will you scale Meguna fight Yuji at?
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Aight Upgrade threads about to go up just need some finalization on the tiers and how it would look on their profiles
Here's what I would put
Gojo: Low 7-B, higher with Red and Blue, far higher with Hollow Purple and Black Flash
AP: Small City level, higher with Red and Blue, far higher with Hollow Purple and Black Flash, Small City level+ with Hollow Purple Chants and Utahime
Sukuna (Meguna): Low 7-B; Varies with Cleave
AP: Small City level
15 Finger Sukuna: Low 7-C, Low 7-B with Open; Varies with Cleave
AP: Small Town level, Small City level with Open
Hajime Kashimo: Low 7-C, Low 7-B with Innate Technique
AP: Small Town level, Small City level with Innate Technique
These are all that I'd know who would scale to it
Also my Ice Calcs has actually been accepted this time so that could work as supporting evidence for the new ratings
Speaking of that
Is there anything implying that 15 finger Sukuna is superior to Uraume? I feel like there should be something but it's been a while since I read the manga
Here's what I would put
Gojo: Low 7-B, higher with Red and Blue, far higher with Hollow Purple and Black Flash
AP: Small City level, higher with Red and Blue, far higher with Hollow Purple and Black Flash, Small City level+ with Hollow Purple Chants and Utahime
Sukuna (Meguna): Low 7-B; Varies with Cleave
AP: Small City level
15 Finger Sukuna: Low 7-C, Low 7-B with Open; Varies with Cleave
AP: Small Town level, Small City level with Open
Hajime Kashimo: Low 7-C, Low 7-B with Innate Technique
AP: Small Town level, Small City level with Innate Technique
These are all that I'd know who would scale to it
Also my Ice Calcs has actually been accepted this time so that could work as supporting evidence for the new ratings
Speaking of that
Is there anything implying that 15 finger Sukuna is superior to Uraume? I feel like there should be something but it's been a while since I read the manga
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EldemadeDityjon
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Currently domains doesn't scale
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15F Sukuna was faster and clash hand with Gojo who just got out of Prison Realm meanwhile Uraume got one shoted by Gojo
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EldemadeDityjon
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Atmost 10% only if anyone has problem they can make a CRT. I ain't scaling Yuji to 15F Sukuna full power.
Giannysmag
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I meant like the actual Tier, if 15F Sukky ends up Low 7-C then i assume Yuji is gonna stay 8-A?
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hm. So not even Gojo nor Sukuna?
There's no way for the strongest to scale higher than Jogo's potency?
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Gojo created a realm full of stars with his domain so he is actually 4-A
EldemadeDityjon
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Downscaling from Fire arrow makes more sense.
EldemadeDityjon
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Unfortunately no.
