This supports my argument because Kusakabe’s statement was only in reference to a simple domain, but he never ever conflated that weakness onto domain expansions like you’re claiming. What’s what’s headcanon here. Nothing in this statement says that granting a CT to a domain expansion leaves no capacity to neutralize another person’s CT.
Again I don't need to bring a statement that says "there is no capacity left", you are the one whos trying to make it seem like that in order to use the burden of proof against me.
Yes you do. When you make a statement it is incumbent upon you to prove it. You can whine and cry about it all you like but that still doesn’t remove your obligations of making a positive statement that you must provoked proof for. You prove that DE’s are filled with CT but you never once proved that DE’s don’t have the capacity to neutralize another person’s CT, you are only assuming that because it’s imbued with a CT therefore it can’t neutralize another person’s cursed technique when that notion has literally been directly contradicted in the series.
No, I don't need to, I proved it in multiple different ways, you cant just ignore all the arguments and then claim that unless I provide it in this way then it's not accepted, you are misusing the burden of proof to hide behind it after I destroyed all your weak arguments.
Yeah here’s Oxford too I already linked this earlier so it seems you’re the one who’s lying here once again.
I did link it though so how tf can you say that Im lying? You really have nothing left but to accuse me of shit I never did, also what I linked specifically is "imbue something with something" which is what we are talking about, also permeate does mean spread through every part of it, which is why it's used as a synonym in this case but you have no clue about what you are talking about lmao.
Yeah you can.
Here’s a glass filled with water, now is there “no capacity” to put ice in this glass as well? Seems pretty capable of holding some capacity right there.
No that's not what filled means, after twisting the manga you are twisting the English and you can't call it a filled glass anyways, and again you are missing the point as DEs don't neutralize shit with empty space, you know that domain which was used against the first year students when Yuji was killed the first time it didn't have a CT but it didn't neutralize anything because neutralizing via empty space is a property of DAs as they expand over a small area without granting a CT, DE neutralize with the sure hit which is shown multiple times and I have already proven, so not only you cant prove that it has a capacity, you cant even prove that if the capacity exists would it still null the CTs or not, that's what happens when you cant do yourself a favor and open a manga website.
Ok so one, actually read the manga. Sukuna’s sure hit wasnt on when he used a DA inside the domain clash, but sure dude you can say the sure hit is what nullifies the CT in a DE, I don’t care that’s not really relevant to the argument. Because it can simply be said that the sure hit nullified all cursed techniques, not only specific ones that impact it. That’s just your headcanon. It can just as easily be said that trying to activate your cursed technique is pushing back against a domain and thereby nullified a cursed technique. The point of the argument is whether DE’s nullify all CT’s or only specific ones as you claim, so it doesn’t really matter to my argument either way.
What??
The sure hit was on, and that's Gojo with the six eyes, not someone who doesn't even read, you have no clue about what you are talking about as
the sure hit turned off after that, that just shows how you have no reading comprehension which we established before anyways, not to mention that I put a ******* scan where Gojo post the domain clash said "when the sure hits overlapped he had no way to counter my CT other than using DA" so how tf can you accuse me of not reading when I linked a clear scan? At this point, you have nothing left other than trying to shit-talk me with no basis or arguments, just take the L.
My god, you even stated “if all CT’s push back against a domain then all CT’s get neutralized” so maybe doing things like activating your CT in a domain classified as “pushing back” against it which is why it’s stated all cursed techniques get neutralized in a domain expansion??? Just a thought maybe that just completely tears your inconstancy apart.
No pushing back against a domain doesn't mean that, keep coping.
Permeated means to spread throughout of but it doesn’t equate to leaving the thing it’s spread through “at capacity.” You keep on wasting time by failing to address this crucial point in your argument. You don’t conflate these terms and your argument doesn’t work, hence what makes this artificial.
Spread through every part of it
filled and saturated with CT
Yes if it's at every ******* part of it then you cant neutralize CTs with empty space because every part of the space is imbued with CT, you keep proving that you have no clue on how the burden of proof works.
Oh buddy did you happen to miss what I said in direct response to this quote or are you just ignoring it again? Because I’m pretty sure I made it fairly certain that the reason I can say a DE’s don’t share the same weakness as DA’s and SD’s is because it’s stated they don’t. So when I prove that DE’s have the exact same properties as things like SD’s I can make my claim because it’s supported in the series, meanwhile yours isn’t.
And it's not stated that they have the aspects of DAs and SDs, cope harder.
You will just bring an aspect and then build upon it that they share all aspects, and that's what I said before but you cant read English, something is not new at this point.
Well damn that seems to be exactly what Yuji says since he quite literally states his “limitless cursed technique” is getting pierced through. Not just one application to it. “Pushing back” doesn’t have to be in reference to a CT alone, it can also include things like SD’s in that explanation as well and in it, it says . And “getting pierced” was just the specific phrase to Gojo’s neutral infinity being nullified, but yeah all CT’s “get pierced” in the sense they’re neutralized.
Then again the same Yuji doesn't say anything when Gojo uses red when his knowledge stops at "domains can pierce Gojo’s CT"
Pushing back in that instance refers to CTs as that's the same situation that Gojo was in and he compared it to, so stop adding words from your head just because your understanding turned out to be complete nonsense with nothing to support.
Here you go. Gojo says you can use cursed techniques inside a domain and neutral limitless is part of his cursed technique. He even says he used his cursed technique to block that move just now. Oh and let’s not forget the time Gojo
literally activated his neutral infinity while under a domain amplification no less just by strengthening his own infinity. Nah, but somehow neutral limitless having resistance to power null is too wild. Do you think a DE’s power null is better than a DA from 2 people no less? If Gojo strengthening his infinity is demonstrates to be able to overcome domain amplifications, why do you somehow think he can’t do the same in regards to DE’s when he literally stated he could use his CT in them.
Again, you cant provide a feat or statement where Gojo says I can use my barrier,
And funny how you brought a scan that destroys your premise because it proves that using CTs is counter to DEs.
And no DAs are less potent than DEs, yeah DEs are much better, dude the reason they didn't use DEs is that Gojo was going to knock them out with his DE, if they could use it they would've done so because DEs are better against the limitless.
Gojo himself said the attacks will reach, his students confirmed this, Kenjaku said Gojo "can't", even when the manga hits you in your face you insist on being dishonest because you must respond no matter what type of nonsense you are going to bring up.
We literally see on panel it was just a forearm extension. You know Gojo has other applications of his cursed technique besides red right? And by the way, it can’t be “up in the air” on whether it was a CT or not because you yourself was arguing for the fact that the word “jujutsu” intrinsically meant “cursed technique” and Gojo directly states he blocked that attack using jujutsu. Weird how this part is suddenly “up in the air” to you when you were pretty sure of yourself in your argument prior about that very same image. How strange you shift like that.
Yeah, he might use another application other than Red I don't mind that, yeah Im still thinking jujutsu means CTs, and I still use this scan to show that using CTs isn't a problem in domains as Gojo taught Yuji that you can block using it, I just stopped using it because you kept crying but funny how when I cracked every argument you brought, you suddenly started to agree with me just to use that point against me (we know it supports my point).
but now I have a gift for you:
Jogo neutralized Gojo’s cursed technique because domain’s naturally power null like that. I’m just saying Gojo didn’t actively try to use and replenish his cursed technique like with Sukuna, he was just using it as a teaching lesson for Yuji.
We literally see on panel it was just a forearm extension. You know Gojo has other applications of his cursed technique besides red right? And by the way, it can’t be “up in the air” on whether it was a CT or not because you yourself was arguing for the fact that the word “jujutsu” intrinsically meant “cursed technique” and Gojo directly states he blocked that attack using jujutsu. Weird how this part is suddenly “up in the air” to you when you were pretty sure of yourself in your argument prior about that very same image. How strange you shift like that.
Stay up to your word next time okay?
And that scan supports my case as I already proved at the beginning of this discussion (Im the one who brought it up first anyways) so don't try to act smart next time on the one who taught you what this scan actually means
why can he not be referring to SD’s in that context, Gojo never clarifies a specific way in which pushing back against a domain neutralizes your cursed techniques while other ways don’t, he simply says when you push back against a domain your cursed technique always gets neutralized. So then Gojo’s explanation includes simple domains in that list unless told otherwise because a simple domain is a way in which you push back against a domain in the series.
Gojo was pushed by DA while using his CT and he compared that to pushing back against a DE, that's basic English comprehension which you keep ignoring because hey, I should respond with anything even if I lied, and twisted, that's how things works on your side apparently
Wtf?? Are you ok or something? What on gods green earth do you think is baseless about me saying the “domain” in “pushing back against a domain” is in reference to a domain expansion and the “pushing back” part is in reference to the maneuvers to…counter a domain expansion. That’s literally what I said and what the statement is about but somehow you think that’s wrong. So here we go again into headcanon territory.
You are just adding words from your head.
Yeah exactly it’s all one sentence, which is why we read it as one and know the context behind it. You’re literally just repeating what I said that you claimed was wrong and baseless. Gojo is saying “when you push back against a domain (expansion), the chance of the (sure-hit) attack missing will increase, but it will always neutralize the cursed technique.” Wtf do you think is so baseless about that when it’s literally the context of the sentence?? And by the way, simple domains are also a thing you use to “push back” against a domain, not just CTs. So Gojo’s statement would include simple domains in that list as well.
Gojo was comparing his pushing against DAs in that scene with pushing against a DE, and we know he was using his CT so stop adding words from your head.
It seems you do though need each sentence broken down into 5 each time because you refuse to read considering how you claimed what I said above the sentence was incorrect and baseless and then proceeded to repeat exactly what I said about the very same sentence.
Yeah, it seems I do need to because you lack language comprehension.
Hey buddy what does “freeing up capacity” mean to you if it doesn’t mean “doesn’t have the capacity for.” Because that’s all I’ve said in regards to it, which is something directly established in the series. So yeah if you’re making the claim DE’s “don’t have capacity” to neutralize CT’s then you gotta find a statement saying just that otherwise your argument completely falls apart.
I will repeat myself because you didn't bother yourself to read and tried to miss the point, a "proof" isn't decided by you, I can prove it in any way I want as long as the manga supports it, and when Gege uses words like grant, and include to indicate that it doesn't have enough capacity without mentioning "to the full capacity" then I do not need to bring more than that, stop missing the point.
Oh so you mean the CT in a SD is filled to at capacity so there is no room to pour an enemy’s CT in there.
Yeah, and the word
grant was enough to indicate that it doesn't have a capacity
“Basically enough?” Uh no that’s just your own interpretation and headcanon there. Nothing says that a DE “has no capacity” and imbued with a sure hit doesn’t inherently mean so as proven earlier. The fact that you have to surmise that “imbued with a CT”
Already been refuted, no new arguments here.
Holy lord please read the manga, a domain expansion
is just a realization of your innate domain. A simple domain is
just an expansion of your domain. What property of simple domains do you think is unpresent in domain expansions? The nullification of the sure hit effect? Because that’s literally all I said and that’s something directly shown in the series.
I don't care about your nonsense when you are failing to bring proof, and btw you refused to say that SDs are imbued with a CT because it's not stated, and now you wanna argue that they share the aspects, you are just cherry-picking here, I already proved that SDs don't have a sure hit attack so its not necessary that they have the aspects of DEs.
Either you bring a statement or stop repeating the same refuted nonsense.
If it doesn’t have the aspects of DA and SD then it doesn’t share the same weakness unless directly stated so. Do you understand now? You can’t have it both ways.
I proved the weakness by explaining how each one of them works by using multiple scenes and statements from the manga and showed how DEs don't neutralize CTs with many arguments that you failed to respond to.
Kenjaku’s statement directly proves it’s a property if domain expansions as well and the feats showcasing domain expansions nullifying cursed techniques probes domain expansions nullify all cursed techniques just like stated it does. None of your arguments countered the fact because your points of Gojo’s limitless technique being nullified in a domain doesn’t intrinsically correlate to your position over the fact that the same thing would directly happen because of Kenjaku’s statement about DE’s. Thereby making your position null as I’ve demonstrated multiple times now already.
Already refuted, you have nothing new other than repeating the same refuted points because defeat is hard for you to admit.
Mechamaru’s thing is a FEAT showcasing what I’m saying and Kenjaku’s is a STATEMENT in support of that feat. Those are two things that can happen in one chapter ya know. Please actually think about what you’re saying before you say it. Why is Mechamaru’s technique classified as “pushing back” against the domain even? His CT was just simply activated and all it is, is just him controlling his robots with his cursed energy, so why does that classify as “pushing back” against the domain and what criteria is “pushing back” defined as? If you’re claiming only specific techniques that “push back” against a domain are neutralized then define that criteria for “pushing back” and explain why simply activating your CT in a domain can’t classify as such like in the case with mechamaru.
I explained Mecha’s situation so not sure why are you repeating this, save your time and read my posts properly, not all CTs push back against the sure hit, Charles’ CT doesn't, an example that you failed to respond to because you are incapable of that.
What’s funny here is that you didn’t read the manga to the point where you repeatedly mistake Mahito for Hanami throughout this entire paragraph. The irony of your statements is comical but I guess if you don’t read the manga it’s hard to keep track of who the characters are lmfao. And yeah once the domain’s sure hit move landed Mechamaru’s technique got nullified, that still proves my point of all cursed techniques being nullified under a domain lmfaoo. Also maybe if you actually read my post you’d know I said Mahito can’t touch his real body. Something Mahito even clarified himself in the very scan you posted, he can’t touch him directly. Like are you ok?
Don't miss the point okay? You said the moment Mahito expanded his domain Mecha couldn't move and that's a ******* lie as that happened after Mahito hit him with his sure hit attack, and no you did try to prove that "the DE nulled Mecha’s CT even when Mahito didn't touch him because DEs null all CTs automatically" when that's clearly not what happened and you got caught lying in front of everyone here just as you were doing in the entire discussion, I will quote what you said:
and the feat of Mechamaru being unable to move his giant robot anymore due to being inside a domain. Why do you think it suddenly stopped moving despite Mahito being unable to touch his real body while inside the robot? Could it be that Mahito’s DE nullified Mechamaru’s cursed technique and that’s the reason why? You know…like he stated two seconds after??
And I will add that Mahito doesn't need to touch him because he's already in the palm of Mahito’s CT already and when he activated the sure hit it nulled Mecha’s CT because Mecha’s CT is manipulating puppets and
Mahito used idle transfiguration on the same ******* puppet, that's why the puppet stopped moving and that CT was nulled which is why Mecha used a SD and could manipulate the puppet again, or you can say that he used it on the real body and Mecha couldn't use the puppet because idle transfiguration ****** up him before using the SD
No it gets neutralized because Gojo’s neutral limitless is a cursed technique and domain expansions nullify all cursed techniques. What the students say do not support your position whatsoever because Yuji literally says the domain expansion neutralizes his “CURSED TECHNIQUE.” Not his “only his limitless barrier,” no Yuji directly states the domain is “piercing through Gojo’s cursed technique.” Something you said didn’t make sense but is something Yuji is directly stating. Please read the words on the page next time. Why would he use his barrier when he was trying to attack Sukuna at the time? What you’re saying doesn’t even make any sense.
Keep repeating that and at the end of the day, nobody is believing that shit here except you.
No statement is misused and no statement is disregarded or contradicted unlike your position which I have proven many many times now already.
You didn't prove anything because you have nothing to support your case.
Ok for one, I already explained above that they’re just expansions and realizations of your own innate domains, literally verbatim they are the same in that way. But if it’s not directly stated DE’s don’t share the same properties as SD’s then unless you provide a direct statement saying DE’s share the same weakness as SD’s, it should be treated as a one by one thing. So good job here your own argument works against you.
Nothing you bring will work against me.
Oh my b I didn’t know Hakari called if a domain a singular time in the entire series while literally everyone else including in the very page you posted calls it his “limitless cursed technique” lmaoo. But sure dude this still doesn’t change my point considering they’re specifically talking about neutralizing Gojo’s “limitless cursed technique” with a DA like they did in Shibuya where they did the same thing and nullified his CT. Not just “one aspect” to his cursed technique or just his “domain” in his cursed technique, his whole cursed technique in general. Which includes blue and red in there, so this doesn’t change the point either lmfao.
I don't ******* care if its mentioned one time or not, you were shit-talking me through a full post by repeating this over and over when you are simply mistaken, at least when I do shit talk I read your posts and try to give scans each time I respond and when I get something wrong I will be honest about it, but you are clearly incapable of doing that.
What does “pushing back against the domain” mean specifically? Why is mechanaru’s technique “pushing back” against the domain but red isn’t? Hell, why can’t activating your cursed technique in a domain’s sure hit be classified as “pushing back” against it? When they state the limitless cursed technique is neutralized, that means all applications of it, not just one. So a domain “piercing through Gojo’s limitless cursed technique” means all his techniques got “pierced through.
Tf you smoke, red isn't something to be pierced through, and blue is, piece/penetrate only applies to the limitless.
Here’s Gojo directly stating you can counter a DE with your cursed technique. Last I checked, neutral infinity was his limitless cursed technique. You know,
like Yuta says. Oh! Or maybe the fact that Sukuna
literally used a domain amplification to nullify Gojo’s limitless cursed technique. Now what did he use domain amplification for again earlier? Oh yeah to neutralize Gojo’s neutral infinity Aka his limitless cursed technique.
Oh neutral infinity being resistant to power null, who could’ve ever thought, it’s not like Gojo
literally used his neutral infinity while a domain amplification was active no less.
No new argument.
It’s not “pushing back against another domain” like another domain does though. They refer to Gojo’s neutral infinity as his limitless cursed technique. You know, the thing Yuta literally says in the same scan you provide? You’re trying to argue the infinity “pushes back” against a domain like the other maneuvers do, buts it’s fundamentally a cursed technique and that’s the reason it gets neutralized by the domain expansion. It doesn’t break apart like a simple domain does
nobody is saying the limitless is pushing like a domain, and nobody is saying the limitless isn't a CT, I already said this, but Im making fun of you because you kept repeating "How can you call it a domain" and shit talk to me when its literally stated but you didn't know about it because you're ignorant, at this point, you are a master of lying, twisting, and straw-manning, who knows what other trophies you will get in this discussion, and yes the limitless does push against domains because DEs are expanded and granted a CT with a barrier, where the CT should reach every part of the domain as we have already proved, but the limitless doesn't allow anything to reach Gojo so it pushes back against the domain and get neutralized, but you cant understand this without adding words from your head to twist the context.
Already proven. It’s directly stated Gojo can use his cursed technique inside domains.
You didn't prove anything.
What was he lying about?? That Gojo’s limitless cursed technique gets nullified?? Why would he be lying to Yuji about that, that makes no sense whatsoever and in fact Yuji bringing it up here as he does indicates that Gojo was telling him the truth.
Go reread the paragraph again dude, Im explaining what you're doing, you said Gojo didn't resist using his CT because he was teaching Yuji, I already quoted that above in this post that Im writing, so I just explained how that would go in the story, and btw Yuji only brought up how domains will pierce Gojo’s limitless, and everyone agreed on but when Gojo used Red no one cared or was surprised, which something you failed to give a good answer to.
Except Gojo can do things about it such as activating his cursed technique which directly resists the sure bit effect since it couldn’t neutralize the cursed technique. So you’re blatantly wrong here once again. Gojo saying you can counter the sure hit effect with a CT when you say the sure hit will neutralize a CT means you just resisted the sure hit effect.
Except that, he said the barrier will get pierced, his students confirmed that a DE will nullify Gojo’s barrier and Kenjaku specifically says "Gojo can not" and when he's right in MS he didn't use his barrier even though it's a direct counter to the slashes, but he used red.
You can't prove that he is able to use the barrier and you will never be able to, just keep hiding.
Nope, imbued with a CT doesn’t mean it doesn’t have capacity for something, you have to show that is a property shared between the two. You have yet to do so yet, you have only assumed it be that case but was never directly confirmed. Something you attempted to chastise in regards to comparing SD’s to DE’s but I guess consistency isn’t a thing here.
Already refuted.
Ok then it’s literally sharing the same properties as a DE since a DE is literally just a realization of your domain? If a DA gets provided a sure hit it will lose its neutralization aspect but it’s never stated to be the case for DE’s. That’s just your assumption talking which makes this contradiction artificial here. It’s directly stated DE’s null CT so it can’t be headcanon if it’s literally confirmed in the manga itself. Man you need to learn how to use terms correctly damn.
You are either misunderstanding the point or twisting it on purpose, both options are possible given how many times you lied about me in this discussion even after I correct you.
I did prove that DEs have the same weakness using many arguments that destroy your premise, so stop deceiving yourself.
Here’s a guy with no cursed energy no less reacting to the sure hit effect of a domain. My god, even if Gojo’s little illustration it directly shows a person blocking the sure hit effect of a domain with another person’s CT.
Gojo’s own little illustration shows a person reacting to and blocking the sure hit effect of the domain. But I guess you would need to read the manga to know that fact, right.
1) No he didn't react to anything he just put his hand next to the hit, he didn't block it or anything, so stop lying, you can use jujutsu to counter
2) Dude, just stop, Im telling you Gege said it's not a ******* sure-hit attack, and nobody cares about your understanding, yes you can use Gojo’s words as useful info that Jujutsu can block sure-hit attacks, but that's not what happened there, accusing me of not reading when Im quoting Gege is so embarrassing, stop making fun out of yourself.
You actually didn’t, you just claimed I said “to be filled to capacity” was some kind of new term I described when that’s literally the terminology Gege uses in the manga which you parrot in this post here.
Already refuted.
I know, because strawmanning arguments isn’t a thing I tend to do.
Sure
And the most comical part here is the insane irony of an attempt to try and discredit how I read the manga when you can’t even get the basic facts right if the fight down in the series, makes it so funny to see such a puffed up chest in spouting blatantly wrong claims.
The most comical part is that you were acting cocky on that matter and repeating it over and over because you don't have anything else to say, then I exposed you
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