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ExampleOho! How about throwing 1-A+ hax at him that can actually effect him, hmmm? Lol
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ExampleOho! How about throwing 1-A+ hax at him that can actually effect him, hmmm? Lol
How about fate hax? Which ain't resisted lolExample
You can't fate hax someone that that doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't exist.How about fate hax? Which ain't resisted lol
It's coming from someone who also doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't exist lolYou can't fate hax someone that that doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't exist.
Edit: wukong has fate resistance.
I don't recall anyone on this thread agreeing to "several layers" of Nonexistent Physiology at all.Pretty sure he has several layers of nep type 2 and 3.
It's basically like no no no no nonexistence instead of the typical no nonexistence. It's extremely rare to find a character that has that level of NPI to deal with this BS.
NEP??, and Layered???? wut @.@I don't recall anyone on this thread agreeing to "several layers" of Nonexistent Physiology at all.
He has Nonexistent Physiology as a Buddha but no more than that. Not even mentioning how "layered" NEP is complete nonsense.NEP??, and Layered???? wut @.@
You can fit an infinite amount of 4D spaces in a 5D space.l because they lack a dimensional vector the latter has. I just do not see why a multiverse that doesn't have some form of transcendence qualify for High 1-B.What exactly does this mean?
A universe with 4D properties containing other universes with 4D properties without being conceptually superior is not evidence for High 1-B. It's why the marble aliens from Men in Black are only 3-A despite more or less having the same justification. Just containing something isn't evidence of transcendence.Would you be willing to explain your respective arguments, so I can ask some other staff members to help out with evaluating them?
I'm pretty sure we did away with this reasoning ages ago. A 5-dimensional space isn't larger than a 4-dimensional space by default. But anyway;You can fit an infinite amount of 4D spaces in a 5D space.l because they lack a dimensional vector the latter has. I just do not see why a multiverse that doesn't have some form of transcendence qualify for High 1-B.
The Marble Aliens seem to directly share the same timeline as the universe far as I'm aware (e;se they'd be Low 2-C) and wouldn't really be relevant to this sort of thing anyway.A universe with 4D properties containing other universes with 4D properties without being conceptually superior is not evidence for High 1-B. It's why the marble aliens from Men in Black are only 3-A despite more or less having the same justification. Just containing something isn't evidence of transcendence.
A timeline is Low 2-C because of size and 3-Dimensional objects following the same linear progression forward because of the fourth dimension.You understand why a timeline is Low 2-C right?
But I'm not seeing this. They're just smaller 4th dimensional objects existing in a larger 4th dimensional object. None of the scans provided have shown the bare minimum level of transcendence to get High 1-B in my view.This then repeats itself on and on without end and the equivalent dimensional size grows higher and higher.
They are relevant because I'm not seeing anything that notable separates the two besides having a large amount of upscaling.wouldn't really be relevant to this sort of thing anyway.
I believe that a recursion like this can equate to an infinite hierarchy but not always.
Since a space-time continuum exists as a grain of sand in a higher space-time continuum, it would thus act as an object embedded in that other space-time continuum's timeline and thus have uncountably infinite snapshots of itself across the latter's time, much like how a regular timeline is Low 2-C and equated to a large 4-dimensional space for having the equivalent of uncountably infinite amounts of the 3-dimensional objects within it exist across its time.
That would be the case here except instead of 3-dimensional objects like galaxies and stars, it's universal space-times and this repeats itself over and over without end.
@SomebodyData @Celestial_Pegasus @Wokistan @Elizhaa @ByAsuraA universe with 4D properties containing other universes with 4D properties without being conceptually superior is not evidence for High 1-B. It's why the marble aliens from Men in Black are only 3-A despite more or less having the same justification. Just containing something isn't evidence of transcendence.
If they've adjusted the reasoning to be something besides universes within other universes I guess that's a different story.
If it's there, it's there. No matter how ridiculous it sounds. They already stated that no no emptiness is not true emptiness so you have to assume that it's layered.He has Nonexistent Physiology as a Buddha but no more than that. Not even mentioning how "layered" NEP is complete nonsense.
No, I don't have to assume anything. You can assume all you wish, no one here formally accepted this.If it's there, it's there. No matter how ridiculous it sounds. They already stated that no no emptiness is not true emptiness so you have to assume that it's layered.
If it's there, it's there. No matter how ridiculous it sounds. They already stated that no no emptiness is not true emptiness so it's basically a higher level of type 2 and 3, and not an assumption nor flowery language.No, I don't have to assume anything. You can assume all you wish, no one here formally accepted this.
Which isn't something we equate to "more nonexistent". At best its Transduality.If it's there, it's there. No matter how ridiculous it sounds. They already stated that no no emptiness is not true emptiness so it's basically a higher level of type 2 and 3, and not an assumption nor flowery language.
So correct me if I'm wrong (I'm very muddle headed so if you could, please explain why it isn't a higher level of Nep) I apologize for not being able to differentiate acknowledge and assume. I keep mixing these 2 words up.
Is it possible it could mean type 4? Because currently he has type 3.Which isn't something we equate to "more nonexistent". At best its Transduality.
sameIts kinda annoy me that the calc for lower forms Wukong are ignored lel
If you guys wondering, i also need these calc members to be pinged for evaluating the calc:Ya basically. I did calcs for the Five-Phase Mountain splitting, Mountain Shaking, and Planetary Storm. But they need to be checked first.
If not Planck then maybe @Qawsedf234 , can you call them?@Planck69 Can you ping these calc members again, for helping us making the calc for Wukong lower feats:
@Psychomaster35 @Armorchompy @Migue79 @KLOL506 @DragonGamerZ913 @AbaddonTheDisappointment @KieranH10
Well the pure lands is transcendental of the universe, so the universe is definitely a layer below. (Correct me if I'm wrong @ActuallySpaceMan )I want to ask where is the main universe (4-D); it is the upper layer or at the lowest layer, just checking?
If the universe is an upper layer, I guess the lower hierarchy would be Tier 11, not High 1-B.
If the main universe is in a bottom layer, I guess High 1-B seems valid.
Every Buddha Land is within a grain of sand, meaning even the one in the main JTTW Storyverse would be. So ya they are not at the top or bottom they are just somewhere in the High 1-B Structure. There's nothing in the novel stating they are at the top of it or anything. This thread basically explains all of it. I'll add references to it so it's easier to search up stuff.I want to ask where is the main universe (4-D); it is the upper layer or at the lowest layer, just checking?
If the universe is an upper layer, I guess the lower hierarchy would be Tier 11, not High 1-B.
If the main universe is in a bottom layer, I guess High 1-B seems valid.
Also, I think the reference chapters should be posted or stated because it is hard to search and verified the sources/contexts since there are multiple translations with different out there.
We'll be stuck in stasis until someone does.So theoretically, if literally, no one volunteers to check the calcs for weeks on end what would happen?
Because as long as the cosmology fits with a modern tiering system, we can tier the novel with no problems.While I am completely neutral on this CRT, I have a question.
Why are we using modern cosmology theories to a old novel that never use any of the more modern cosmological theories and just considered there being a single universe IIRC.
We talking about the time that was set before we got Tier 1s and is at least around Tier 3 to 2 as the past cosmological model was a bit different compared to what we have today for that matter.
Not sure on this as Buddhism always involves a singular universe. Not more nor less for that matter.Because as long as the cosmology fits with a modern tiering system, we can tier the novel with no problems.
The Mahayana Buddhism Cosmology is surprisingly compatible with Vs Battle. They talk about atoms, space and time, dualities all kinds of stuff, Universes and Hierarchies. People just tend to assume that because it was an earlier period they had really limited views on what fantastical words could be.Not sure on this as Buddhism always involves a singular universe. Not more nor less for that matter.
Also as a result, I have mixed feelings on whatever this is truly Tier 1 or not as tiering system aside.