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Jotaro vs Kenshiro - Death Battle Edition
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JohnCenaNation
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I saw the Death Battle, and Jotaro died from a single poke from Kenshiro. However I have a question, if Hokuto Shinken can kill anyone with one touch, then how do some characters in Fist of the North Star survive fighting an Hokuto Shinken users without exploding?
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Grabbing and healing okuyasu prior of rhcp hitting the next tower. Rhcp moving at light speed and josuke just walked up and healed him before rhcp. Also maybe a few other one. Hmm? Funny have a tier 7 calculation linked. Ya mean that one man.Axl233 said:
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https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/671209?useskin=oasis Mentioned. Hmm? The feat ya mentioned only building man.
JohnCenaNation
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Someone answer my question, please!
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Well the sun had a tier 7 feat man except may not be able of using it for any scaling or upgrading.
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Cause either, a) they're skilled/fast enough to keep their pressure points from being accurately touched b) they have some way to circumvent the effects of pressure points (Souther's pressure points were inverted and needed to be pressed differently, Hyoh physically ripped out his pressure points to avoid getting exploded, etc) or c) the Hokuto Shinken user wasn't aiming to kill, only hurt or disfigure. Kenshiro sometimes settled on using his skills to severely injure or disfigure a person instead of killing them, but only if they did something not so terribleJohnCenaNation said:
JohnCenaNation
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What about characters like Raoh, Juza, Juda, Kaioh, Kenshiro, Toki, Amiba, Jagi, Rei, Koryu, Ryuken, Shin, Ryuga, Seiji, and Sanga who all survived the killing blows? Why didn't they explode/immediately died when their pressure point was hit?PTSOXMONKEY99 said:
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They either killed themselves before the pressure point could take effect, the attacker wasn't aiming to kill, only maim or incapacitate, or sometimes the attacker only punched them. Not every attack is a pressure point technique. Sometimes a punch is just a punch, and a ki blast is just a ki blast. Also, a lot of those people you listed were killed by pressure point attacks. Seriously, Jagi was blown into for pieces, Ryuken was killed by Raoh's technique, same for Amiba was killed by one of Ken's techniques. Shin would've blown up, but he killed himself before that could happen.
Also keep in mind that Kenshiro purposefully makes these delayed attacks, so he can give his opponents time to reflect on the fact that they're gonna explode, or so he can interrogate his victim.
Also keep in mind that Kenshiro purposefully makes these delayed attacks, so he can give his opponents time to reflect on the fact that they're gonna explode, or so he can interrogate his victim.
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I would've calc'd that one but it requires too many assumptions. How far did RHCP make it before Josuke brought back Okuyasu's body? How far did RHCP manage travel as Okuyasu's body was gravitating back to his hand? You could get all sorts of different results just by altering those two variables, so I deemed it unquantifiable, but we know it's probably at least Relativistic.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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Exactky. Only ever mentioned him doing that only being rekavistic.
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I'm pretty proud of that Relativistic RHCP feat. Felt like I caused an intellectual uprising when I brought that feat to the light.
After I found that feat I figured I'd make a blog.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:ArbitraryNumbers/Defending_JoJo_FTL_feats
A lot of it came from AMM's blog.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...nt_on_people_who_do_not_believe_in_FTL_stands
Dude's really smart in how he points some of those feats out. Also it feels like an honor to have my calcs cited.
After I found that feat I figured I'd make a blog.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:ArbitraryNumbers/Defending_JoJo_FTL_feats
A lot of it came from AMM's blog.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...nt_on_people_who_do_not_believe_in_FTL_stands
Dude's really smart in how he points some of those feats out. Also it feels like an honor to have my calcs cited.
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Look, I thought Ken was gonna win tbh. Tho I do think it could go either way with verse equalisation off. But they ended up bringing that building feat for Ken at his max, which iirc when calc'd doesn't come close to the diamond teeth feat. SP blitzes the second they get in combat range tho
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There's probably a reason for that.
IIRC doesn't Jagi's durability feat come from a spinoff? Would it still be canon if that's so?
And how does Kasumi Kenshiro scale to Kenshiro?
IIRC doesn't Jagi's durability feat come from a spinoff? Would it still be canon if that's so?
And how does Kasumi Kenshiro scale to Kenshiro?
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Jagi's feat comes from one of the gaidens, which are basically side stories about the different characters in the Hokutoverse. It was written by one of the guys who worked on the original series, and was overseen by the head writer. A lot of the events in the gaiden match up with events in the series (Raoh meeting Fudo, Jagi learning his signature attack, Jagi attacking Kenshiro and Ryuken, etc), except they're told from Jagi's point of view and goes a lot more in depth on his character. It's a super great read that I highly recommend if you already like FotNS, but its super sad.
Kasumi Kenshiro scales because he uses the same martail art as Kenshiro (he also trained with Ryuken, who trained Kenshiro as a child), which means that if Kasumi knows a Hokuto Shinken technique, then its likely that Kenshiro does to, and vice verse. They also performed the same Hoktuo Shinken successor ritual, and interacted with the same Hokuto Soke stone, which empowers the user and makes them immune to the Hokuto arts
Kasumi Kenshiro scales because he uses the same martail art as Kenshiro (he also trained with Ryuken, who trained Kenshiro as a child), which means that if Kasumi knows a Hokuto Shinken technique, then its likely that Kenshiro does to, and vice verse. They also performed the same Hoktuo Shinken successor ritual, and interacted with the same Hokuto Soke stone, which empowers the user and makes them immune to the Hokuto arts
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Okay then yeah. It's pretty ridiculous for Death Battle to not come across these feats. How many researchers are on their research team? 10? 14? 7?
I really want to cut them some slack but there is just too much that doesn't add up, with how massive and tide-changing feats aren't being used, and poor reasoning for not having Star Platinum be FTL.
I really want to cut them some slack but there is just too much that doesn't add up, with how massive and tide-changing feats aren't being used, and poor reasoning for not having Star Platinum be FTL.
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@Axl
He didn't master it, but he was pretty proficient in it. Jagi Gaiden actually shows in depth on why he resorts to using weapons and underhanded tactics to fight (its because of Kenshiro, Toki and Raoh), and it shows how he mastered a specific technique that's shows up in the main FotNS manga.
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To be fair, the spin offs are pretty obscure (I only read both of them last year), and there are still lots of other spin offs that are lost in translation (Raoh's Gaiden is lost to time).
He didn't master it, but he was pretty proficient in it. Jagi Gaiden actually shows in depth on why he resorts to using weapons and underhanded tactics to fight (its because of Kenshiro, Toki and Raoh), and it shows how he mastered a specific technique that's shows up in the main FotNS manga.
@Arbitrary
To be fair, the spin offs are pretty obscure (I only read both of them last year), and there are still lots of other spin offs that are lost in translation (Raoh's Gaiden is lost to time).
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Even though Star Platinum is massively faster than Kenshiro, SP didn't have the power to break Ken's massive defense and attack.
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inb4 Low 2-C Raoh via becoming one with the universe using an ascended Muso TenseiPTSOXMONKEY99 said:
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Apparently there's a SoL statement in one of the gaidens, but I'm not gonna put much stock into it
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I have a question. Is Hokuto Gaiden even canon? Because is a spin-off manga series written by different manga artist other than Buronson, and has nothing to with the main canonical storyline. Because Jagi surving a nuke never once appeared in the main manga other then in the spin-off series.
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@CenaNation In a previous thread, Grudge already explained that the author, especially Tetsuo Hara, supervises all his works including spin-offs.
all the gaidens are published under the same company he works for, with most of them being prequel backstories and have yet to contradict the main manga.
Asking Grudge, he sent me these: 1 2
all the gaidens are published under the same company he works for, with most of them being prequel backstories and have yet to contradict the main manga.
Asking Grudge, he sent me these: 1 2
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^What Fllflourine said. The head writer oversees all the spinoffs, and none of the events contradict the story told in the main FotNS manga
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Guys.
I don't know how many people knew this, but they released a ton of the dubbed episodes for Stardust Crusaders on Adultswim.
I find it quite interesting, because when you watch the dub you don't worry about looking at the subtitles, and you can notice some of the other minor details.
I had no idea that Smokey Brown was on a magazine cover right in front of my eyes at the time.
Also, the dubbing for Rubber Soul is godlike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyeiOE-iekI
I don't know how many people knew this, but they released a ton of the dubbed episodes for Stardust Crusaders on Adultswim.
I find it quite interesting, because when you watch the dub you don't worry about looking at the subtitles, and you can notice some of the other minor details.
I had no idea that Smokey Brown was on a magazine cover right in front of my eyes at the time.
Also, the dubbing for Rubber Soul is godlike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyeiOE-iekI
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Not only that but FTL statement as well on part 2 and the one of the guides says that Falco can shoot golden light.PTSOXMONKEY99 said:
But yeah I too wait untill further confirmations.
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I have a question, why haven't none of the JoJo characters reached country level yet? Why are they all still multi-city block levels?
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Have you not read anythint passed part 4? Im prettt sure JoJo has Universal and Multiversal stands on the top.JohnCenaNation said:
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I think he means physically.
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who needs Country level when you got multiversal barriers , causality manipulators with infinite speed ,and guys that can destroy the same multiversal barriers like it was nothing.JohnCenaNation said:
jojo may have no destructive power but the hax are pretty good.
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