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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable

Baken384 said:
Prime Jotaro took a kick to the face from High The World operating at maximum output (Broke Star Platinum's Guard as well)
High The World at full power>Angrier Star Plat (Busted through The World's hand)>High The World=>Angry Star Platinum (Busted a hole on The World)>The World (Bullied SP in combat)>Star Platinum>7.83 Tons (High 8-C+)
Outliers Jotaro has a scaling chain above the 7.83 tons and Diavolo's King Crimson is like, just possibly scaling to that value in this wiki 😭
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Damn near everybody and their mama AT LEAST has building level AP in Jojo's, and the scaling of Large Building Level+ is basically given out like candy... You can say a stand has "first-class" strength, and obviously scale it to Large-Building Level...
 
King Crimson is literally the only other Stand stated to be "first class" in power so I don't see why he isn't scaled above RHCP outright
 
Baken384 said:
Prime Jotaro took a kick to the face from High The World operating at maximum output (Broke Star Platinum's Guard as well)
High The World at full power>Angrier Star Plat (Busted through The World's hand)>High The World=>Angry Star Platinum (Busted a hole on The World)>The World (Bullied SP in combat)>Star Platinum>7.83 Tons (High 8-C+)
Outliers Jotaro has a scaling chain above the 7.83 tons and Diavolo's King Crimson is like, just possibly scaling to that value in this wiki 😭
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You act as if Star Platinum wasn't protecting him while The World kicking him through that sign... Chariot190 told me about this, but apparently Star Platinum's always protecting Jotaro when not summoned or out of sight, unless he's doing something else at that moment...
 
Tbh I think Part 3 Jotaro without TS would still beat Diavolo, timestop isn't really useful in the fight outside of dodging stuff, and he can still react to TE and oneshot Diavolo to the moon
 
Wavingthroughawindow999 said:
You act as if Star Platinum wasn't protecting him while The World kicking him through that sign... Chariot190 told me about this, but apparently Star Platinum's always protecting Jotaro when not summoned or out of sight, unless he's doing something else at that moment...
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That's only in the OVA

In the original, Jotaro gets hit with a barrage and knocked away, Star Platinum guards against the next attack, has his guard broken, and Jotaro eats even more attacks
 
CBslayeR said:
Tbh I think Part 3 Jotaro without TS would still beat Diavolo, timestop isn't really useful in the fight outside of dodging stuff, and he can still react to TE and oneshot Diavolo to the moon
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Oneshot is...a stretch...
If Diavolo gets hit by Star Platinum multiple times, broken bones WILL be suffered, but straight up killing him in one blow???
 
Part 3 Star Platinum can shatter vampire skulls and punch a hole through the other strongest Stand. To say he would one-shot Diavolo is definitely not a stretch lol
 
Really I think Jotaro vs Diavolo boils down to SP's speed and if he can react to TE fast enough.

You tell Jotaro blood trick it's GG though.
 
CBslayeR said:
Really I think Jotaro vs Diavolo boils down to SP's speed and if he can react to TE fast enough.

You tell Jotaro blood trick it's GG though.
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Diavolo vs Prime Jotaro, especially with this FTL debunk if it goes through for King Crimson, isn't particularly fair due to the large speed difference. Giving Prime Jotaro knowledge of the blood trick ontop of somewhat superior stats for nearly everything else besides speed would just have the fight end quicker.
 
Wavingthroughawindow999 said:
Diavolo vs Prime Jotaro, especially with this FTL debunk if it goes through for King Crimson, isn't particularly fair due to the large speed difference. Giving Prime Jotaro knowledge of the blood trick ontop of somewhat superior stats for nearly everything else besides speed would just have the fight end quicker.
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It's Diavolo's superior IQ, more experience, and the combination of an indisputably superior Time-based ability with the ability to peer into the future that make this match a difficult one for Prime Jotaro though. Diavolo's high pain tolerance make it hard to put him down for good as well, and Jotaro's immediate confusion after the first few time erases will definitely leave him open for surprise attacks. Star Platinum's own strength and speed, as well as semi-automatic nature are just too much for Diavolo to handle however, but damn if Prime Jotaro's not gonna have a painfully hard time trying to deal a finishing blow...
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
Star Platinum at his absolute one-shotted the strongest version of The World into dust
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Who said he's going into this match pissed-off with a rage boost active though, he doesn't even know Diavolo? Let's also not forget that Star Platinum did suffer some damage of it's own on it's hand when clashing for one final time with The World, and it more than likely would've been worse on Jotaro's end of things had DIO not been stupid and kicked with his weak side...
 
Wavingthroughawindow999 said:
Who said he's going into this match pissed-off with a rage boost active though, he doesn't even know Diavolo?
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We did
Wavingthroughawindow999 said:
Let's also not forget that Star Platinum did suffer some damage of it's own on it's hand when clashing for one final time with The World, and it more than likely would've been worse on Jotaro's end of things had DIO not been stupid and kicked with his weak side...
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Wavingthroughawindow999 said:
Who said he's going into this match pissed-off with a rage boost active though, he doesn't even know Diavolo? Let's also not forget that Star Platinum did suffer some damage of it's own on it's hand when clashing for one final time with The World, and it more than likely would've been worse on Jotaro's end of things had DIO not been stupid and kicked with his weak side...
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Jotaro when not pissed off still tore a hole through The World, in the scene where Dio thinks Jotaro couldn't move in time stop based on the magnet.

In an in verse what if, Jotaro most likely finds out about Polnareff getting injured by Diavolo and Diavolo is absolutely mocking Jotaro about being his friend, so Jotaro might be minorly pissed off, or at least more than willing to kill him.
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
The whole point of drinking Joseph's blood was to fully coalesce with his body, and DIO says his body was stronger than ever before after that
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Not really well known in the general Jojo fanbase tbf. Most people think Dio was still weaker than his Part 1 self physically after drinking Joseph.

Weird misconception though, Dio pretty clearly says he's at least as strong as his Part 1 self
 
CBslayeR said:
Not really well known in the general Jojo fanbase tbf. Most people think Dio was still weaker than his Part 1 self physically after drinking Joseph.

Weird misconception though, Dio pretty clearly says he's at least as strong as his Part 1 self
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I never believed that... I know you said most people, but still...
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
The whole point of drinking Joseph's blood was to fully coalesce with his body, and DIO says his body was stronger than ever before after that
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Actually, due to Jonathan's body still being human compared to DIO's own vampiric nature. DIO's left side will ALWAYS be weaker than his right, no amount of Joestar blood changes that fact. High DIO only allowed for DIO to ascend to greater heights or high's with Johathan's body...
 
Wavingthroughawindow999 said:
Actually, due to Jonathan's body still being human compared to DIO's own vampiric nature. DIO's left side will ALWAYS be weaker than his right, no amount of Joestar blood changes that fact. High DIO only allowed for DIO to ascend to greater heights or high's with Johathan's body...
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I don't see where you're getting this idea from. We are told DIO had a left side with slowed regen because the body was rejecting him which drinking Joestar blood remedied... which DIO himself said was the point. No more slowed regen on his left side
 
Wavingthroughawindow999 said:
You thought you had something there, didn't you? Your trying to say GER was purposefully pulling it's punches to prolong the beat down, but having Diavolo suffer is literally the point of the Infinite Death Loop AFTER RTZ. You'd have to bring extra evidence to prove GER was holding back here, for whatever reason...
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GER had the capability to just speedblitz Diavolo and hit him like 30 times before he could even move.
 
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