Jojo: Eyes of Heaven Jotaro revision

[The_Smashor]

Jotaro Kujo (Eyes of Heaven) should have Fate Manipulation, as it's heavily implied that he overwrote reality so that all the side characters live after HA DIO was defeated. See here at 12:54. It caused Willian, Caesar, Kakyoin, Avdol, Iggy, Shigechi, Everyone who died in part 5, everyone who died in Part 6 (Including himself) and Gyro. Also Esidisi for some reason. This technically could scale to HA DIO, but he dosn't know how to use it so he probably shouldn't have it.

 

[Genericstickman]

He should also Acausality type 1 for keeping his memories of the events of the game after the Holy Corp undid all of HAD's anomalies

 

[The_Smashor]

Yeah.

 

[The_Smashor]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that this seems fine, but you should preferably ask some of the people listed in the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure verse page to comment here.

 

[The_Smashor]

Oh, and I should probably mention Jotaro probably knows how to use erasure, since he saw DIO use it and was able to use Time Stop (Albeit with limits) after seeing it once.

 

[Genericstickman]

The fate manipulation makes sense since half of the part 5 gang were fated to die by Rolling Stones yet Jotaro kept them alive (also I'm pretty sure it'd scale to HAD since he has more experience with Reality Override then EOH Jotaro)

 

[The_Smashor]

Yeah, but we never see HA DIO use it so it'd go under "Possibly"

 

[Eficiente]

See here at 12:54.

What's there, exactly?

I disagree with all of this.

 

[The_Smashor]

Showing William, Ceasar, Shigechi, The ones that die in Part 5 and 6 and Gyro alive after they should have died. Also Kakyoin, Avdol and Iggy.

I doubt HA DIO dying alone caused this (Espesially since he wasn't erased from the standard universe or anything like that since we see his PB self alive)

 

[Eficiente]

So what?

 

[DMB_1]

See here at 12:54.

This doesn't imply anything, other than Dio failing to erase Jotaro since he learned how to use RO.

 

[The_Smashor]

It implies Jotaro overwrote reality so that the characters who died, didn't.

 

[Eficiente]

It's just a flashback.

 

[DMB_1]

It implies Jotaro overwrote reality so that the characters who died, didn't.

... So him overwriting his own injures implies that he overwrote all of reality?

And Dio still had all of the gang's souls.

 

[The_Smashor]

No, I mean he fundamentally changed time. We see William in Dio's castle, Caesar fighting in the arena, Kakyoin Avdol and Iggy after DIO's been killed, Shigechi after Kira stole Kosaku's face and Gyro fighting Alternate Universe Diego Brando. I don't really know the endings of part 5 and 6 so the other pictures may be more to prove this.

 

[DMB_1]

Pretty sure that those at the end were either flashbacks or simply the characters that Dio resurrected/didn't die going back to their own time period.

 

[The_Smashor]

DIO didn't ressurect anyone.

 

[DMB_1]

Do you mean Kakyoin, Avdol, Iggy, N'Doul, Shigechi, Bruno, Narancia and others?

They were actually resurrected by Dio AFAIK.

 

[The_Smashor]

JonTron - Citation needed

 

[Genericstickman]

The fate manipulation makes sense since half of the part 5 gang were fated to die by Rolling Stones yet Jotaro kept them alive (also I'm pretty sure it'd scale to HAD since he has more experience with Reality Override then EOH Jotaro)

 

[The_Smashor]

To put it simply HA DIO didn't ressurect anyone after he died.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that this seems fine, but you should preferably ask some of the people listed in the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure verse page to comment here.

Particularly any staff members.

 

[SomebodyData]

I'm neutral, he could have really done anything to make sure they lived through the JOJO parts, not just Fate Manip.

 

[TriforcePower1]

I agree with SD. While Jotaro clearly did something to keep them alive, he could have done literally anything, not necessarily Fate Manipulation.

 

[Genericstickman]

The fate manipulation makes sense since half of the part 5 gang were fated to die by Rolling Stones yet Jotaro kept them alive (also I'm pretty sure it'd scale to HAD since he has more experience with Reality Override then EOH Jotaro)

Sorry for quoting this again but still

 

[The_Smashor]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

Have you asked for more staff input?

 

[The_Smashor]

Yes.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[The_Smashor]

Yeah I think nobody cares about this character. Since it could scale to HA DIO I feel like putting him in the topics should do the trick.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, SomebodyData and TriforcePower made good points. Perhaps it is best to close this thread?

 

[The_Smashor]

What GenericStickMan said also makes sense and Data and Triforce haven't said anything that disproves it.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that this can remain open.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Yeah, Jotaro was pretty clearly responsible for this.

I don't know if we could specifically say Fate Manipulation though, as already mention, it could have been almost anything.

 

[Genericstickman]

It's mainly due to the fact that half of the part 5 gang were fated to die by Rolling Stones and yet they're alive in the ending of EOH

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

It's mainly due to the fact that half of the part 5 gang were fated to die by Rolling Stones and yet they're alive in the ending of EOH

Yeah, he does need fate manip to trump this

 

[TriforcePower1]

Admittedly, the Rolling Stones thing may indicate Fate Manipulation. I'm honestly fine with a "possibly Fate Manipulation", but I'm still unsure.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Likely or possibly seems fair to me

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Yeah, I agree with it being fate manip then. Part 5 is constantly talking about fate and inescapable destinies and Rolling Stones is basically the stand of that.