JJBA potential AP and Dura downgrades

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Jonathan Joestar(Post Tarkus) is listed as City Block level, which is scaled to Part 1 Dio Brando

While it makes sense that Jonathan scales to Dio, Dio Brando scales to DIO, which doesn't make sense as DIO's AP comes from The World, which is scaled to Star Platinum.

DIO is obviously not physically as strong as The World, which means Dio obviously isn't either.

City Block level was calced from Star Platinum inhaling Justice, this is a feat from Star Platinum, The World is scaled to this due to being "the same type of Stand"

City Block is the power of Star Platinum and The World, which translates to DIO and Jotaro's AP since they use Stands to battle instead of themselves, but this does not translate to PHYSICAL strength, a regular punch from DIO or Jotaro would not be nearly as strong as being hit by their Stand

DIO does not have City Block dura

Dio (and everyone scaled to him) does not have City Block AP/Dura

 

[SomebodyData]

DIO is scaled to Star Platinum since he can survive hits from SP. DIO (Pre-Joesph Blood) is stated by DIO himself to be weaker than Part 1 Dio

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

This is more of a downgrade for part 1, and characters that scale from that, but part 3+ seems fine how it is

 

[SomebodyData]

Jonathan can harm Dio who has his durability scaled to DIO who got harmed by but survived SP.

Jonathan can punch Dio without damaging his hands which means his durability has to be on a similar level. Dio can damage Jonathan.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

It just seems wrong for part 1 to be City Block level, Zeppeli would've been able to harm Dio if it wasn't for Vaporizing Freeze, and Jonathan could harm Dio pre-Hamon as well.

 

[SomebodyData]

I actually question why Zeppeli isn't considered 8-B, considering he is also a master in Hamon and trained quite a bit. Although it could be that the damage is a result of Hamon. I don't remember Pre-Tarkus Jonathan being able to harm Dio, if anything he was barely able to save Zeppeli.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

There's also the factor of people becoming stronger upon gaining a Stand, DIO was also donuted by Star Platinum, which he could've tanked to a degree with City Block level dura

Perhaps DIO doesn't have City block level dura either, as a single punch also destroyed his skull

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Also DIO's body was also pretty screwed up after a barrage soon after

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Well, by pre-Hamon I meant the fight between Dio and Jonathan after he first became a vampire, who was already shown to be much stronger than the fodder zombies and vampires

 

[SomebodyData]

Hmmm it seems you may have a point, after relooking through the fight, he generally can't tank any attacks of SP.

Hmmm, however, where does Post-Joesph's Blood DIO stand in this, as I believe he did manage to tank quite a few attacks if I remember correctly.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Perhaps we add a new key for High DIO/Post-Joseph Blood DIO?

There's even an extended timestop and he even seems to be considerably stronger in comparison to DIO.

 

[SomebodyData]

Well after looking over High DIO's fight, I saw no point where he tanks a hit.... I may have overlooked one, can you check as well?

In the case that there isn't, the ratings would have to change for some of Part 1 and 2 to At least 8-C rather than 8-B.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Well, his regen also seemed to increase as he was completely put together right after the barrage when he drained Joseph.

Then again, this was the only time his regen seemed to be that great, his legs didn't heal quickly after being broken by Star Platinum

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Downgrades to part 1 and 2 make sense

 

[SomebodyData]

Alright, though we need more input to this

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

There's also Straizo, who's listed to have City Block level dura as a vampire(scaled to Dio), while his body was entirely destroyed by grenades that wasn't even enough to entirely bring down the building they were in.

 

[SomebodyData]

Someone should probably calc that. But yeah, that's also a thing

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Basically Dio and everyone who gets scaled to Dio would recieve this downgrade, except for DIO's AP, of course.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Bump, just to help get more opinions on this