Izanami vs Hitoshura

[Luciano_esporas]

Why not?

 

[Ionliosite]

Naoki slaps.

 

[Theglassman12]

What's stopping Izanami from resurrecting a second later?

 

[Ionliosite]

He can negate resurrection.

 

[Theglassman12]

And she PI GG.

 

[Ionliosite]

is her resurrection High 1-C? Otherwise, Naoki slaps and negates.

 

[Theglassman12]

I don't see immortality negation on his profile

 

[Ionliosite]

He's a SMT prota, all of them can negate the immortality demons have, which is based on The Axiom.

 

[Theglassman12]

So he should have immortality negation on his profile.

 

[Ionliosite]

SMT profiles are awfully outdated, so totally.

 

[Theglassman12]

Aren't the SMT profiles still being updated?

 

[Ionliosite]

They're in the process, tons of CRTs are needed tho.

 

[Theglassman12]

So if that's the case then we should wait until they're all done.

 

[MYHERO]

There is a potential downgrade that can happen regarding the immortality and its link to the Axiom. However I'll make a thread discussing that for some further clarifications before we do downgrade if it's necessary.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Can Hades resist being observed and having all her powers stripped from her? Observation works on those comparable or stronger btw, since he stripped YHVH of his powers.

 

[Theglassman12]

And how strong is YHVH for Low 1-C?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

9-10D, iirc. But I think it's High 1-C.

 

[Ionliosite]

He means 1-C YHVH, not Low 1-C YHVH. Only 1-C YHVH was stripped of his power.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Ohhh, how strong is Low 1-C Observation?

 

[Ionliosite]

Observation is 10-D because it's directly linked to the power of The Axiom, who's the one who granted them the ability to begin with.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Oh, yeah then Naoki stares at her.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Oh, yeah then Naoki stares at her.

That's some pervert thing to do tho

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Does Izanami have a wincon or is this a stomp?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Doesn't she stomps with the 5-D hax that he does not resist?

 

[Ionliosite]

Doesn't she stomps with the 5-D hax that he does not resist?

And he stomps with 10-D hax. Also, per SBA, he is Low 1-C here.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I'm 100% Naoki resists everything PI can do.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

IIRC someone said that SMT low 1-C ain't nothing special in the AP sense (you said it) and since the hax relies on scaling chains that aren't as important here as in 2-A she should have the advantage by a lot.

Also, also, he doesn't have that on his profile

 

[Ionliosite]

Also, also, he doesn't have that on his profile

Because, as explained above, SMT profiles are awfully outdated. He's a full demon on this key, he gets resistance to every hax he has bar Observation via his own physiology.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I don't think the scaling chain is that low, but even if it was, hax far outstomps them.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Glass can explain better than me but AFAIK BB have the same bs scaling chain of haxes in their low 1-C keys

 

[Ionliosite]

SMT's Low 1-C scale isn't small, the problem is that it's nowhere near as huge as their 2-A one. Base Lucifer is the weakest Low 1-C on the verse after all. In any case, no amount of Low 1-C resistance will stop Observation with its 10-D potency.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

There are people like Shining One/his team, Miyako, Anguished One, Canopus & Polarius, and that's just DeSu2 alone that are Low 1-C. It's huge, but it's not a string bean, like Ion said.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

That doesn't stop the myriad of bs passives BB has.

Also, Observation isn't passive (that I remember) so he can pull it off instantaneously

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Naoki resists basically all of them regardless. And iirc it actually is passive, as along as humans still Observe the existance of demons and angels they will never die.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Resistance =/= inmunity, specially when she has the scaling chain to bypass thamose resistances.

It is? I don't remember but meh.

At best this is an Incon

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Everyone and their mom worth in SMT can bypass resistances, and bypass resistance to resistance negation.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

4-D hax and below doing all of that is shit compared to 5-D hax tho, and she has that on bigger scaling chains than SMT

 

[Theglassman12]

Izanami also can bypass resistance to resistance negation. She did it effortlessly against everyone who had resistance to PI from Celica.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

We haven't even finished the Low 1-C scaling chain, and just DeSu2 ALONE has more Low 1-Cs than Blazblue does, and there are people far superior baseline.

 

[Theglassman12]

Having more Low 1-Cs isn't really an argument unless you can explain how far into the scaling chain Low 1-Cs even go.