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Issues with F-Zero

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Your link to episode 27 and Gazelle doesn't show that. And even if they did, how would we just assume they scale?
 
Because Black Shadow is showed as one of the strongest character in the anime because of his feats.
 
One of the strongest, or the strongest? He doesn't escape when Zoda uses the Might Reactor to consume him with lava, nor does he really react to much else. He just tanks, more less.
 
Well, initially there was the light and dark side of the universe, which incarnated in Falcon and Black Shadow. Apart from that and the Complete Might Reactor, Black Shadow is above everyone else physically and hax wise because he tricked Hyper Zoda [Who disintegrated a lot Blood Falcons] into believing he was dead and when he reappeared he burned him with a gesture, the Falcon Punch only pushed him and did not damaged him.
 
Okay sure AP/Dura, but where's the Speed? Also on an unrelated note would the F-Zero machines be High 7-C for having a Might Reactor in them?
 
Apart from the dodging laser feats, in the series Berserker aka Falcon showed a subsonic feat and Goroh has the best feat speed in the series. Yes, since Liquid Blood Falcon was struggling to break Ryu vehicle, which was able to eliminate him completely with a boost.
 
I did mean base speed and Subsonic is obvious, I'm full on board for Supersonic reactions if we can't use it for base speed. And what about the Dragon Bird? It has two Might Reactors in them, and that was enough to start a Big Crunch in the universe in the Black Matter Reactor.
 
I also agree with Supersonic reactions. The Dragon Bird power of two Might Reactors managed to overload and malfuction the Might Reactor from the core, which caused a likely 4-A explosion.
 
Falcon blitzing those robots was only Subsonic. The feat for most of these are bullet timing reactions.
 
The calc itself seems okay, but the speed of the firearm is assumed. I think it's an okay assumption which is why I think listing it as a "possibility" is fine.
 
TheJ-ManRequiem said:
Just a question, who does Falcon scale too for feats, everyone or only a few?
And why?
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Falcon scales off Black Shadow for being stated to be equal beings (and not having his arm shatter from trying to punch him or smth), and that does fine alone for AP/Durability, but speed is kind of wonky. We could scale off of Hyper Zoda and Samurai Goroh (they had their own fight scene together), because I do recall a time where Black Shadow was faster than Zoda, but I don't remember where it happened if it did indeed happen.
 
Yes for at least High 7-C+, likely higher, because 1 is reactor can release High 7-C+ energy and Black Shadow can overpower a lot of them.
 
Wait, it got Large Town+? Wew.

Anyway the only thing we need now is do we want to involve anything else? Because only the anime has the feats, and Smash Bros. can go through scaling. I don't think the F-Zero games can add anything, though.
 
Not with the games, no. There's too many inconsistencies. Falcon is Jody's brother in the anime (Not in the games), Deathborn and What'shisface are all Black Shadow playing shadow puppets (Not in the games), and Ryu Suzaku isn't even in the games outside of GP Legend and Climax where it's based off the anime itself.
 
I think Small City level is more appropriate since the calc wielded 970 kilotons and Small City level starts at over 1 Megaton since Black Shadow is vastly above Hyper Zoda.
 
I don't think it'd be safe to simply assume he's Small 7-B off the bat, At least High 7-C, likely higher can do just fine. It doesn't leave room for error or any possible wanking.

And what do you think about the keys if any? @Dark
 
How about keys for anime and Smash Bros., with a note explaining the main games have too little feats to have a key?
 
I made a render for GP Legend Falcon earlier just in case it needed to be appropriated further that this is only the anime Falcon (for the most part outside of a Smash Key).

Falcon
 
1) Captain Falcon

At least High 7-C, likely higher | At least 7-B, higher with his Final Smash

At least Large Town level+, likely higher (Was stated by Black Shadow to be his opposite and was able to punch the latter with his Falcon Punch) | At least City level, higher with his Final Smash (Comparable to other fighters such as Kirby)

Speed: Subsonic with Supersonic, possibly High Hypersonic reactions | Hypersonic+ to Massively Hypersonic+

Key: F-Zero Gp Legend | Super Smash Bros

2) Black Shadow (We need a render of his anime version)

Tier: At least High 7-C, likely higher. Low 2-C with the Complete Might Reactor.

Attack Potency: At least Large Town level+, likely higher (Overpowered a Might Reactor which could cause a large space station to explode and easily defeated Hyper Zoda, who absorbed several Blood Falcons). Universe level+ with the Complete Might Reactor (Was going to remake the universe and its space-time in his own image)

Speed: Subsonic with possibly High Hypersonic reactions

Note: This profile covers his incarnation from F-Zero Gp Legend.

3) Blood Falcon

Tier: At least High 7-C, likely higher.

Attack Potency: At least Large Town level+, likely higher (Sparred with Captain Falcon and was going to break Ryu vehicle)

Speed: Subsonic with Supersonic, possibly High Hypersonic reactions
 
I've been trying to find a standard shot for his anime part but I can't find one.

1.) Actually, the real name of the anime is Falcon Densetsu or The Legend of Falco, not GP Legend. That's just the 4Kids name. Really, we could use either/or, just making a note of it.

2.) Blood Falcon and regular Falcon have gotten into that fistfight I've shown you before. They should be equal to that if being a pure clone of him isn't enough.

3.) I thought we agreed on Supersonic, likely/possibly High Hypersonic reactions?
 
I'm searching for it:

1) The Legend of Falcon is more appropriate.

2) Blood Falcon has his DNA, so they are equal.

3) Fixed it to Subsonic with Supersonic, possibly High Hypersonic reactions.
 
Alright.

Though, Smash Bros. is a little weird in terms of speed. How does it exactly scale if all of the files label their speeds in m/s, and there are other things you can dodge like MK's slashes (Snake's Codec defines them as faster than sound), DK's soundwaves, arrows, that stuff? Lil' weird for now, but I think that's a thread for another day.

This should be good for the time being.
 
As for Smash, in Brawl after the match ya can check your max launch speed and the like, speeds if I recall ranged to high double digit to triple digit mach. Also think there's a calc of Yoshi and Meta being quite fast.
 
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