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Issues with F-Zero

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Yeah, that small mountain did explode, but does it count as AP or some weird hax? I'm not really an expert with this stuff.
 
It looked like explosion inducement to me. He ignited multiple explosions, so I don't think it's A.P., but rather explosion inducement hax.
 
It counts. If Black Shadow is the cause of it by just snapping his fingers, it's AP. That's where the 7-A comes from (Maybe it's not a small mountain? Haven't watched the show).

Also, he physically overpowered a Might Reactor in Episode 26. We just need to find the scene / calc of the Space Station being destroyed.
 
Actually when I look at that scene, nothing's being destroyed. Just a few explosions made here and there.
 
Arigarmy said:
Actually when I look at that scene, nothing's being destroyed. Just a few explosions made here and there.
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I also agree with this, too.

So I take it we'll need the feat calculated before we can do anything, right?
 
I could probably get on that, but I don't see the size of the mountain compared to anything else. I'll probably have to assume 300 m for the mountain's height, if that's okay.
 
I'm kind of surprised Captain Falcon's tier is less than mine. But either way, that explosions size clearly doesn't scale to Black Shadow or CF; since they both died and it was simply the reactor that generated that much energy. But I'll wait for the calc to be found. As a side note; I got doubts about F-Zero being one of Nintendo's strongest verses; that Title belongs Paper Mario/Mario; Pokemon, Xenoblade, Earthbound Smash Bros, and Kirby aren't too far behind either.
 
Well Captain Falcon is potentially galaxy level with the champion's belt, and Black Shadow has a potential 3-A to Low 2-C feat. Should put the verse on par with the rest of Nintendo.
 
THE CHAMPIONS BELT IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK. IT ISN'T 3-C

[Bear with me. I will explain later, but I have to go to work right now...]
 
As much as I love F-zero, I'm tired, haven't slept in 20 hours so I'll read the thread later but Douglas j. Falcon comes from the FZERO Gx website if i recall and is his game incarnation, Bart Lemming, or, Spoilers, Andy Summer is his anime incarnation which should not be confused with his game version as they're seperate entities and different canons. (Plus they contradict each other like Black Shadow and Deathborn being the same person in the anime and yet in the games Deathborn killed Black Shadow). If this was already answered then sorry, I'll delete it if need be to remove clutter. Also in the gameboy sequel to the anime it's revealed Captain Falcon survived the blast that happened in the climax of the anime if memory serves right, he doesn't go by Captain Falcon anymore at that point though but it's him.
 
So, for each (notable) version we should just have a different profile?

Captain Falcon (Andy Summer), for example
 
@JSW

Yeah, that could be an idea. But should we make separate pages, or simply separate keys?

Sheoth said:
THE CHAMPIONS BELT IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK. IT ISN'T 3-C
[Bear with me. I will explain later, but I have to go to work right now...]
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That is some mighty big words you have, dude. Got the full quote an everything when Deathborn specifically said he can destroy a galaxy in an instant.
 
Yeah, Deathborn said to Falcon before racing him "Then I can turn this whole galaxy into a pile of ashes in an instant". Sounds 3-C to me.

And aren't the gods that make up the forces that reside in the belt Low 2-C since they created the F-Zero verse according to them?
 
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Yeah, Deathborn said to Falcon before racing him "Then I can turn this whole galaxy into a pile of ashes in an instant". Sounds 3-C to me.

And aren't the gods that make up the forces that reside in the belt Low 2-C since they created the F-Zero verse according to them?
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That's what I was thinking. If they make up their universe, they could possibly be 3-A or Low 2-C.
 
Now where was I:

See at first, Deathborn mentions the two Universal forces which could destroy the galaxy instantly when combined. Sounds fine and perfectly straightforward.

But later, when Falcon is about to race the 3 creators, one of them says that "there are no Universal forces," which means that the power Deathborn mentioned the belts contained was untrue from the start.

Funny enough, I even used the belt in Captain Falcon's statistics on the Joke Battles Wiki because of what the creator said.

Also, I'm not trying to downplay. I love F-Zero to death and would kill for a 3-C Falcon, but we can't overlook the obvious contradiction.
 
Oh, okay. So there are no universal forces, meaning that there is no Light and Dark.

But that doesn't apply to the 3-C in any way. The statement debunks Deathborn's about Light and Dark making up our universe, and as he puts it, are "universal forces." But the galaxy being turned to ashes is still legitimate, and was not stated to be a "universal force."
 
Sadly Deathborn was created by the The Creator, who told him that the belt can destroy the galaxy and they are universal forces, but they lied to him as they later say the opposite to Falcon.
 
Metal Mario875 said:
Oh, okay. So there are no universal forces, meaning that there is no Light and Dark.
But that doesn't apply to the 3-C in any way. The statement debunks Deathborn's about Light and Dark making up our universe, and as he puts it, are "universal forces." But the galaxy being turned to ashes is still legitimate, and was not stated to be a "universal force."
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Re-watch the scene. Deathborn very clearly states that the Light and Dark are the Universal forces that can be harnessed to destroy the galaxy, which the creator later explains don't really exist.
 
I see.

So, what about the statement "We created this world" even if there are no universal forces? Were they just having a humble brag with Falcon? I also don't understand that weird transition that takes Falcon into that racetrack outta nowhere, either. That was a bit sudden.
 
Yes, their power relies only in reality warping and they used Deathborn in order to try to obtain Falcon body.
 
I'm with Ari. It seems the Creator contradicts themselves.

By "We created this world," we don't know what he meant. But if we're trusting the Creator, then we also have to trust their "We created this world."
 
The english version did some confusion with their quotes, i think that is explained in the jap version, which i cannot find.
 
Actually I think GX had a Sunshine dilemma of having English VAs for both the JPN and NA releases.
 
Yes. I checked and the jap version has the same subtitles meaning the same things, but the galaxy thing was just an invention to trick Deathborn. Lastly even if they created the world, Falcon cannot access their power because The Creators only trust themselves and attacked Falcon, meaning that he cannot use the power of the belt and never wanted use it.
 
"Falcon cannot access their power because The Creators only trust themselves and attacked Falcon, meaning that he cannot use the power of the belt and never wanted use it."

? I get that he wouldn't want to use the power but:

A. I don't understand what you mean by 80% of that sentence. No lore that I've seen even implies to it simply being locked because they "only trust themselves".

B. It's still in his possession by endgame.

C. How would you trick someone that you're possessing? That's basically lying to yourself.
 
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