Island LV Kenpachi

[Dr.Fix]

Can someone explain to me what reasoning base Zaraki is Island level? I know it says he bested Unohana for it but come on, the dude should have already been island level prior to getting stomped by base unohana, then stomped again after he got stronger from it, then again, and again, and again . . . . . Then there was her bankai on top of that.

Then somehow Zaraki jumps past island+, large island, small country, country, large country, & continent right into MC just from shikai???

Like I said someone please explain this.

 

[AppleLord]

He is now Multi-Continent level.

 

[Dr.Fix]

If you mean you edited his profile just now then I'm sorry but someone must have undone it.

 

[AppleLord]

You can check the history of his page before saying things like that. I missed the "base" Kenpachi statement in your question.

 

[Amlad22]

Kenpachi scales to the senior captains in base such as Shunsui and Yamamoto. He was also impaled by Shikai Mayuri who is Island level+. So that's why he was upgraded to island rather than MC.

 

[Dark649]

I undid the edit until all the Bleach related users have a discussion about that.

 

[AppleLord]

To my defence, I didn't edit anything. Not accusing of anyone pointing out at me, just saying.

 

[Amlad22]

@AppleLord No, no you're all good. Dr. Fix edited again without permission. Please refrain from this behaviour as this isn't the first case.

 

[Dr.Fix]

To my understanding myself any any registered user (Baring the insanely long probition period) has the authority to edit pages, the evidence being I did. If this behavior isn't encouraged then why am I and everyone else allowed to do so in the first place?

 

[Dr.Fix]

@Amald22 respectfully that's nonesense. There's is absolutely zero feats that put any of those three at Island+ level. There's literally nothing that even suggests those three are in the same league.

 

[ALRF]

Has this been agreed on though? If not, you don't have the right to change the statistic of pages without a CRT thread.

But of course, if this has been discussed and approved on, then yeah it is fine to edit the page

 

[Dr.Fix]

CRT? You mean content revision thread?

 

[ALRF]

Yeah

 

[Amlad22]

@Dr. Fix basically what ALRF said, you need to do a content revision thread before switching profiles. That's why we have them in the first place.

I'm pretty sure Piercer is making arguments for large island level seniors, so Kenpachi will get upgraded to them if it's accepted. I don't want to debate with you on the seniors though, you have every right to open up a CRT and try to get the seniors upgraded that way.

 

[Dr.Fix]

Thanks @ALRF, that makes some sense. Knowing that can you or @Dark649 please undo the revision to Kenpachi which made him Island level in base since there's nothing to validate that being there.

 

[ALRF]

No problemo, glad to be of help here.

 

[AppleLord]

@AppleLord No, no you're all good. Dr. Fix edited again without permission. Please refrain from this behaviour as this isn't the first case.

You misunderstood my post. Can you clear out the misunderstanding, what behavior are you referring exactly? I haven't done anything out of the ordinary to my knowledge, and the comment was to unsure that I didn't edited anything to our friend @Fix.

 

[Peter1129]

You misunderstood my post. Can you clear out the misunderstanding, what behavior are you referring exactly? I haven't done anything out of the ordinary to my knowledge, and the comment was to unsure that I didn't edited anything to our friend @Fix.

Pretty sure Amlad was referring to Dr. Fix and not you.

 

[AppleLord]

Pretty sure Amlad was referring to Dr. Fix and not you.

Amlad was the fourth comment in the thread. Second comment.

 

[Amlad22]

Thanks @ALRF, that makes some sense. Knowing that can you or @Dark649 please undo the revision to Kenpachi which made him Island level in base since there's nothing to validate that being there.

They don't have the power to randomly change stats either. Even admins are bound by the wiki rules. Please make a CRT if you want Kenpachi to be changed, it's not that hard. I can even make it for you if you don't know how to create one.

 

[Dr.Fix]

I'm not asking them to do anything they haven't done already. Not looking for an addition, just a subtraction/undo for the same reason they did it to me.


EDIT: says right at the top "Conten revision", this is the thread to change Kenny's power/for someone to explain why its so mesed up. Please read the OP.

 

[Amlad22]

The way the OP is worded is more of a questions and answers board thread. A CRT wouldn't be a question, but you basically saying "Kenpachi deserves a Multi Continental upgrade due to (insert reasons here)"

And then the community debates on your reasoning and decides if an upgrade is deserved. But if the community as a whole believes that Kenpachi still stays at Island level+ in Base, then he won't change. You'd need to give reasons solid enough to convince the staff as well. It's not impossible, it's just that the few reasons that would bring Kenny to MC in Base were mostly debunked.

 

[Dr.Fix]

Is anyone actually going to respond to the OP?

 

[ALRF]

Sorry, i'm no expert on Bleach so i cannot answer.

Maybe contact the Bleach supporters and ask them?

 

[AppleLord]

Is anyone actually going to respond to the OP?

I'll try my best. Zaraki isn't island+ on his profile for some reason. I can't see it if he really is. So I can't explain why.

The only way to scale Zaraki to Island level would be by accepting Yammy's statement of him saying that his ressurection is stronger than Ulquiorra Segunda Etapa. Yammy is number 0 and the numbers go like this 0>1>2>3>4= Ulquiorra, but no one has ever seen Ulquiorra second release. Scaling to that is wrong in so many levels. Can't explain them all. I want to give you a nutshell answer. You can still argue that he can be scale to Starkk and Ulquiorra first form.

Now why Kenpachi get's getting stronger in Base and Shikai?

 

[Amlad22]

I already answered it. The staff accepted Island level+ for Base Kenpachi due to him being scaled to the seniors and he should not be stronger than Yamamoto's Shikai. Also Mayuri was capable of damaging him. That's what was accepted.

 

[Dr.Fix]

1. Source please. I've been through the kenpachi CRTs and can't see any such conversation. If it wasn't discussed, it isn't legal.

2. That's not you answering it. That's you citing someone else's incomplete opinion.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

^Did you look at both bleach revision CRT threads?

 

[Dr.Fix]

I have but full disclosure I was looking at the ken threads specifically just now. I don't remember seeing any posts regarding Zaraki=Shunsui=Yamamoto=Island level+ nor do I see any after a quick search so again I ask someone to actually link such a conversation instead of giving only the end result.


EDIT: Actually Quicksilver its funny you mentions it because you specifically wrote down Toshiro's island level feat as something which needs discussion but no one paid attention to it far as I can see.

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What as been done and needs to be since the last thread for this arc:

Seireitei calc [Ô£ô]

Gremmy and Kenpachi meteor feat calc [Ô£ô]

The pages of been updated for the new meteor calc [Ô£ô]

A new mimighai speed calc has been made []

The scaling for the new mimighai speed calc has been discussed []

The pages of been updated for the new mimighai speed calc have been updated []

Post-Timeskip Toshiro's stoping a city from falling calc [Ô£ô]

The scaling for the falling city calc has been discussed []

The pages of been updated for the new falling city calc have been updated []

 

[Amlad22]

I'm just going off of what I remember being discussed. And what we discussed was that Kenny and the Seniors scale to toshrio's island feat. I even brought up that they should be higher than Toshiro, but it was turned down for a reason I can't fully remember.

But if you want a full answer on Kenny's rating ask Kuu, since nothing got edited or approved in the revisions without him. He basically handled everything. So I'd say Kuu is the best person to ask.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I have but full disclosure I was looking at the ken threads specifically just now. I don't remember seeing any posts regarding Zaraki=Shunsui=Yamamoto=Island level+ nor do I see any after a quick search so again I ask someone to actually link such a conversation instead of giving only the end result.


EDIT: Actually Quicksilver its funny you mentions it because you specifically wrote down Toshiro's island level feat as something which needs discussion but no one paid attention to it far as I can see.

We actually did, i just didn't check it off

 

[M11UTD]

base Kenpachi scales above Toshiro who has a casual island+ level feat

 

[Dr.Fix]

base Kenpachi scales above Toshiro who has a casual island+ level feat

Kenpachi>Toshiro is someting I agree with, its pretty black and white in the source material.

Still I haven't gotten an answer for why someone thinks Zaraki scales to far weaker characters that he has no relation to. No A>B logic, or even A>B, B>C, A>C logic of any kind. No one has linked the thread for Island level so at this point I'm wondering if anyone has the answer or if possibly someone got confused and put it in thinking a thread was made but it wasn't . . .?