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The title says it all.
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Is pinning two people with the same LS mean that you have 2x their LS?
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No, it counts in calc stalking i guess.
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How so?
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You are basically adding lifting strength of those two characters to calculate the LS of third person.
That's calc stalking since it involves using calculation of one feat into another.
Instead of having 2x lifting strength, he just upscales from the two.
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How tf is that calc stacking
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He's not calculating other feats.
That's like saying any basic multiplier is calc stacking
That's like saying any basic multiplier is calc stacking
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Depends on how they got their LS tier if its scaling then he just scales to them if its a direct statement then he might scale to 2 times, im assuming you mean both at the same time like 1 hand on each one. If its through calc it might be calc stacking.
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it ain't calc stacking. If this was calc stacking then all multipliers in the wiki would get deleted. Calc stacking is using a calculation to make another calculation using it's result (unless one calculates the weight of an object and the other the KE of the object or sth like that). Calc stacking would be like this one thing i saw about one piece when they used the area of Luffy's fist in KK gun and the area of the tip of 16 holy bullets and then scaled the potency of the strings to every inch of his hand, the potency of the strings being derived from a meteor calc. That would be calc stacking. A guy pinning down two guys is a logical multiplier.
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I said it if their LS was archieved through calc then it would be calc stacking which is the definition here if its a direct statement or just the height of an object is not a calc.
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no it wouldn't, he pinned down two people with the same LS, it's basic logic that he'd have 2x the LS since they can't overpower him. If his pin down was unconventional or sth then i'd see how it would be weird but calc stacking is out of the question here. You're not using a calc to back up a calc, you are using a logical conclusion that a character scales 2x above the LS of another character.
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Thats not Lifting strenght thats gravity manipulation
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Then the gravity manipulation would have 2x the LS of the two it held down.
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Exactly
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No, lets say you are in a gravity room like that one from Dragon ball just because there is 2 people inside doesnt mean the gravity is doubled, its still the same. The lifting strenght to overpower 1 is enough since the same gravity is also affecting the other.
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actually i think it kinda makes sense?
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They aren’t manipulating gravity it’s never stated they are just applying pressure with their darkness.
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Yeah he can vary the density of his darkness making it intangible or so heavy that it starts to get mass
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That's not how calc stacking works.
Calc stacking explicitly requires you to apply the result of one calc into the result of another calc.
Pushing back the might of two people with same LS pushing against you isn't calc-stacking by any means of the word, that's like saying official multipliers are calc-stacking.
Only thing that doesn't combine unless explicitly stated so is AP.
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Pretty much this.
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Gravity hax on the other hand, is another mess entirely.
The LS factor only works if you're doing push-and-pull against two other people.
Consider the following:
You and two other people on opposite sides are pushing on a metal bar grabbing onto it. The two people apply continuous force towards you. But you end up overpowering them all the same. That'd be the LS of those two guys combined, or essentially, if they have the same LS, 2x LS. That's how the scaling works. It needs to be highly physical like in this example.
The LS factor only works if you're doing push-and-pull against two other people.
Consider the following:
You and two other people on opposite sides are pushing on a metal bar grabbing onto it. The two people apply continuous force towards you. But you end up overpowering them all the same. That'd be the LS of those two guys combined, or essentially, if they have the same LS, 2x LS. That's how the scaling works. It needs to be highly physical like in this example.
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No. It's hax.
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No. It's gravity hax.
Only Telekinesis can be applied to LS, and that's if the Telekinesis itself has an LS value to begin with.
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It’s not gravity manipulation they are just crushing them with the weight of their darkness.
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Darkness Manipulation then. Without it having feats for itself of what else it can crush, it's unquantifiable.
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If you pin then with one arm and they both use 2 but can't break, and I assume using 2 arms doubles the work done with using 1, the logically yes, your 2x each of them, to don't even need to pin them each, of you pin one that way, and the other is just as strong as the first, then you're also 2x as strong as the latter too
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It can crush anything else so it can be used for for LS
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