• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Is Backrooms allowed in VS Battles Wiki?

Status
Not open for further replies.
Essentially, it started as a single post on 4chan and people kept adding onto it after that. But unlike SCP which has a single unified site (2 if you count the Wanderer's Library), the Backrooms community is fragmented and has multiple divergences on the details of the Backrooms depending on the wiki you frequent
 
And what are the requirements for the characters to have revision/changes on them? Can anyone edit them? Cause if yes then what stops X to add Z number of abilities and statements that would get it to tier Y.
 
On the wikidot, anyone can fix up minor things like grammar or punctuation but making any actual changes to the lore of an article requires the permission of the original author on the part of the editor
 
And their creation? Can I for example make an uber haxed character with lore there - will it be a canon one? Will it be accepted? Also, if I ask the author and get permission can then I add whatever I want?
 
Seems like something that can be abused but i'm not an expert on SCP like verses so maybe better ask members from there if they have knowledge and what's their opinion on it...also lets await for more opinions from other users/staff alike.
 
Zaratthustra said:
And what are the requirements for the characters to have revision/changes on them? Can anyone edit them? Cause if yes then what stops X to add Z number of abilities and statements that would get it to tier Y.
Click to expand...

Greenlight Policy - The Backrooms

Documenting the levels, entities, objects and phenomena of the Backrooms. You've been here before.
backrooms-wiki.wikidot.com backrooms-wiki.wikidot.com

Rewrite Policy - The Backrooms

Documenting the levels, entities, objects and phenomena of the Backrooms. You've been here before.
backrooms-wiki.wikidot.com backrooms-wiki.wikidot.com
 
Seems like yet another website going down the SCP route. We already accepted something like this with RCP, so the wikidot would be fine to use.

However, if there's different sites taking up the mantle, I think we run into a possibly ruinous problem of differentiating the profiles. If there's at least three completely different sources (not just canons), being YouTube, Fandom, and Wikidot, it seems incredibly impractical to try and index all of them. They'd need completely different verse pages and profiles, usually with overlapping generic names (so you'd need, like, "Level 234 (FANDOM)"). Sounds like a massive pain in the ass and something not worth doing until one of them ends up reigning supreme as the definitive source for the Backrooms.
 
Agnaa said:
Seems like yet another website going down the SCP route. We already accepted something like this with RCP, so the wikidot would be fine to use.

However, if there's different sites taking up the mantle, I think we run into a possibly ruinous problem of differentiating the profiles. If there's at least three completely different sources (not just canons), being YouTube, Fandom, and Wikidot, it seems incredibly impractical to try and index all of them. They'd need completely different verse pages and profiles, usually with overlapping generic names (so you'd need, like, "Level 234 (FANDOM)"). Sounds like a massive pain in the ass and something not worth doing until one of them ends up reigning supreme as the definitive source for the Backrooms.
Click to expand...
It is how I suggested. I personally don't feel that separate them is a pain. Also, "Level 234 (FANDOM)" is more like a location page than a character page due to the in-universe setting.
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
So every Rooms level would have a profiles?
Click to expand...
I think it'd make more sense for notable/famous entities (creatures native to the Backrooms) to have profiles, as I'm pretty sure most of the levels are too "normal" to get a location profile. Their main source of weirdness just comes in the sequence of movement, you could open a door in Level 3 and end up in Level 56 or smth like that
 
Wow I was literally going to ask about this 😵 and yes fandom and wikidot are different canons and there are other continuities such as liminal archives and Kane Pixels' series on the Backrooms. I've seen some entities on wikidot and one is already like multiversal lmao its crazy
 
GoldExPoints said:
I think it'd make more sense for notable/famous entities (creatures native to the Backrooms) to have profiles, as I'm pretty sure most of the levels are too "normal" to get a location profile. Their main source of weirdness just comes in the sequence of movement, you could open a door in Level 3 and end up in Level 56 or smth like that
Click to expand...
I agree, but if a level has some degree of sentience, is its own character/entity or is deeply tied to an entity of the backrooms, would it be ok for it to have a profile?
 
Ehhhh, I don't like the idea.

Don't get me wrong, conceptually, I do like the Backrooms - but the Backrooms has much, MUCH lower standards for both consistency and quality.

I am already leery on how we treat SCP on this wiki, as there are several expanded canons, and we just take the most famous and well-built one, but that is not really any more or less valid than anything else. The Backrooms has three distinct sites, the three with differences aside from some very basic stuff, and with very different premises. There are video series, Reddit posts, and much more, and everything different to each other.

And even worse, in the very same site, there are articles that contradict each other both thematically and "lore-wise".

It is utterly impossible to make Backrooms profiles, unless we make some very arbitrary rules that are, by necessity, excluding of other possibilities, or if we cherry pick series based around the Backrooms.
 
On one hand, we could treat them like SCP profiles, using similar restrictions.

On the other, the Backrooms is much more scattered than SCP. Where would we stop? Would the KanePixels series count as a fanwork, or would it be considered it's own canon?

I'm neutral.
 
ShockingPsychic said:
On the other, the Backrooms is much more scattered than SCP. Where would we stop? Would the KanePixels series count as a fanwork, or would it be considered it's own canon?
Click to expand...
Worse than that - Backrooms has barely any agreed upon canon aside from a few very basic facts, and even what is commonly canon has different details depending on where you look.

Check the wikia and the wikidot, for example. Both have different sets of levels, both have different characteristics on individual levels (Even Level 0, the most common point in all of Backrooms depictions, has different, if only slightly, features depending on the author's article)

Heck, the lack of canon is acknowledged by the wikias - all of which try to tackle onto the issue with a special article on how to proceed.
 
EliminatorVenom said:
Worse than that - Backrooms has barely any agreed upon canon aside from a few very basic facts, and even what is commonly canon has different details depending on where you look.

Check the wikia and the wikidot, for example. Both have different sets of levels, both have different characteristics on individual levels (Even Level 0, the most common point in all of Backrooms depictions, has different, if only slightly, features depending on the author's article)

Heck, the lack of canon is acknowledged by the wikias - all of which try to tackle onto the issue with a special article on how to proceed.
Click to expand...
Well... the "no true canon" problem can be solved by separating profiles... maybe.
 
Backrooms pocket reality as a whole would probably be High 6-A because 600 million square miles

Also im completely fine with doing this verse. feel free to add me as a supporter if someone ever does make a verse page
 
Last edited:
Scottycj256 said:
Backrooms pocket reality as a whole would probably be High 6-A because 600 million square miles

Also im completely fine with doing this verse. feel free to add me as a supporter if someone ever does make a verse page
Click to expand...
depending on which wiki you're using, that is only level 0, and there are multiple levels to the Backrooms. but the original canon and wikidot do say it is 600 million square miles (for level 0). But according to the Fandom Wiki, it's "seemingly infinite".
 
Last edited:
Darksmash said:
The wikidot does seem to have several canons similar to SCP, so maybe at least they can be coherently tiered
Click to expand...
Nope, they can't. Not only are the canons way, waaaay looser than the SCP's own and with much lower quality standards, but it is normal that the things of even the same wiki to contradict each other.

So, just to reiterate my points:
  • Lack of Centralized Canon: We have Backrooms-Wiki Wikidot and Backrooms Fandom. Both have different level sets, formatting and rules, and even shared levels often have some small differences. This isn't just about different canons; each of them has their own culture of expanded canons, and there are people who take the concept of Backrooms way differently from either wiki. Heck, that is so normal that one of the most well-made productions follows a train of thought from the Backrooms that is different from both wikis and all their canons.
  • No Quality Control: Backrooms has way looser standards in both quality and theme of the wiki. I won't go in depth on the quality issue as quality isn't exactly a big obstacle for a series to be created on the wiki, I'll just say that many of the pages on both wikis, but particularly of the fandom, are consistently of lesser quality than the average SCP page. On theme, that is a much easier thing to explain: At times, the Backrooms are treated as a, well, horror setting with unknowable elements. At times, it is a jolly, adventure-based setting. And at times, it is written as if it was a videogame in written form. I mean, look at this. That is not even the most videogamey level of the Backrooms, there are some that are even more like that, that I just don't recall the name. The point is that, unlike the SCP Foundation, the format isn't consistent, nor the quality, nor the themes, and I am not saying that it can't be well done, it most certainly can be - but it isn't in this case. Heck, that is so serious that the Fandom canon has, quite literally, "anything goes with no restriction" as a valid canon.
I can see Backrooms pages for individual interpretations being made (And even then, there is too little to base the pages out of), but I think that, at least for now, nor Wikidot nor Fandom ones are apt for building a verse page out of them.
 
EliminatorVenom said:
Nope, they can't. Not only are the canons way, waaaay looser than the SCP's own and with much lower quality standards, but it is normal that the things of even the same wiki to contradict each other.

So, just to reiterate my points:
  • Lack of Centralized Canon: We have Backrooms-Wiki Wikidot and Backrooms Fandom. Both have different level sets, formatting and rules, and even shared levels often have some small differences. This isn't just about different canons; each of them has their own culture of expanded canons, and there are people who take the concept of Backrooms way differently from either wiki. Heck, that is so normal that one of the most well-made productions follows a train of thought from the Backrooms that is different from both wikis and all their canons.
  • No Quality Control: Backrooms has way looser standards in both quality and theme of the wiki. I won't go in depth on the quality issue as quality isn't exactly a big obstacle for a series to be created on the wiki, I'll just say that many of the pages on both wikis, but particularly of the fandom, are consistently of lesser quality than the average SCP page. On theme, that is a much easier thing to explain: At times, the Backrooms are treated as a, well, horror setting with unknowable elements. At times, it is a jolly, adventure-based setting. And at times, it is written as if it was a videogame in written form. I mean, look at this. That is not even the most videogamey level of the Backrooms, there are some that are even more like that, that I just don't recall the name. The point is that, unlike the SCP Foundation, the format isn't consistent, nor the quality, nor the themes, and I am not saying that it can't be well done, it most certainly can be - but it isn't in this case. Heck, that is so serious that the Fandom canon has, quite literally, "anything goes with no restriction" as a valid canon.
I can see Backrooms pages for individual interpretations being made (And even then, there is too little to base the pages out of), but I think that, at least for now, nor Wikidot nor Fandom ones are apt for building a verse page out of them.
Click to expand...
An overarching canon is most likely not feasible, but I think you can still make seperate profiles for each canon in the wikidot and other individual interpretations that are consistent with themselves.
 
Eh, if you guys can work out a way, I'm all up for it. Remember, however, that even within the same wiki and under the same canon, 90% of the time, there are several contradictions that do not solve themselves cleanly. It is pretty normal, say, Level X be contradictory with Level Y in some way, while Level W and Z are pretty consistent with each other, but each of them is consistent also only with X or Y.

Unless a specialist manages to work out a solution, the wikis can't be taken at face value.
 
I've been looking into it in my off time, and as long as we follow whats specifically on the wiki it should be fine from what ive seen in my own research. Its not like scp where there are specific verses inside the scp wiki.dot. I may be mistaken, but the wiki itself seems like 1 unified canon, as for levels contradicting it seems unlikely. The only contradiction i can think of is the notion of Infinite lvls vs Level 922337203685.... you get the drift which is the supposed last level. As for the fandom wiki itself im not sure if its inline 100% with the wiki.dot so we should remain cautious on that front.
 
SCP not really the best example, since if it wasn't grandfathered in it would probably require a rather massive staff thread to be allowed on the wiki in the first place.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
SCP not really the best example, since if it wasn't grandfathered in it would probably require a rather massive staff thread to be allowed on the wiki in the first place.
Click to expand...
It is a good example. Backrooms is the same as SCP, with the same problems, but worse.
 
SCP doesn't have a problem. Nothing outside the site is canon to it. Backrooms doesn't even have an official source.

To reiterate, the SCP website has a licence, which means anything on the site is official SCP canon. Backrooms to my knowledge, has no such thing.
 
I would love to see Backrooms on vs battles wiki, but the problem is that there are multiple canons within the Backrooms universe (that being fandom, youtube, wikidot, and the original creepypasta which i don't think will be added to the site.)

The other problem is that the backrooms itself has no canon and the internet makes up its own canon like what wikidot and kane pixels does in his videos, but i think it would be perfectly fine on the site if people make separate profiles for wikidot, youtube, and fandom.
 
Sans2345 said:
Yeah i guess the entities would just be 9-C or 9-B all of the monsters in that series seem to be composed of a inky like substance from what i'm guessing.
Click to expand...
Yeah I think they should be around there. I hope the wiki versions get accepted, cuz Fandom and wikidot canons are much stronger in comparison
 
eliaspower1234 said:
Yeah I think they should be around there. I hope the wiki versions get accepted, cuz Fandom and wikidot canons are much stronger in comparison
Click to expand...
They are, the wikidot version has a entity known as the "reality bugs" which literally feed on the fabric of reality itself. (idk if it counts for fandom and wikidot)
 
Please keep this thread on-topic; about whether the series is allowed, rather than how strong certain characters would be.
 
^

Regardless i don't think there's much more for me to say, aren't their like two wiki's based on liminal spaces, being liminal archives, and the backrooms. They have the entirely same gimmick and im unsure if they are connected (at a glance they don't seem to be). So if we are to put it on the wiki we'd have to do a damn good job at it.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Sans2345
Should we really allow Backrooms ARGs? (Like Kane Pixels for example)
Replies
7
Views
1K
Iiliminal
Iiliminal
Iiliminal
  • Locked
Fully Embedding Wikidot Backrooms into Vs Battles Wiki
4 5 6
Replies
227
Views
11K
Mr. Bambu
Mr. Bambu
TheMassivlyUnkn0wn
The FC/OC 9-B Swiss Tournament: Into The Backrooms
2
Replies
40
Views
2K
TheMassivlyUnkn0wn
TheMassivlyUnkn0wn
Moritzva
  • Locked
The Backrooms shouldn't be allowed. (STAFF ONLY)
3 4 5
Replies
198
Views
13K
Antvasima
Antvasima
Mariogoods
Is LeBron James from LeBron: Path to Greatness allowed in this wiki?
Replies
0
Views
253
Mariogoods
Mariogoods
Back
Top