Iron Man vs. Deoxys

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

"No, burns and poison are statuses applied by status inflicting moves, not attacks. Special Attacks are moves that are magical or use energy to deal direct damage, opposed to Normal Attacks which are physical"

Proof please...

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I'll be back in a couple of hours, i got to leave for work,,,,

 

[Talonmask]

"No, burns and poison are statuses applied by status inflicting moves, not attacks. Special Attacks are moves that are magical or use energy to deal direct damage, opposed to Normal Attacks which are physical"
Proof please...

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Status_move http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Status_conditio http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Statistic

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

 

[Talonmask]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

 

[Overlord-Murasama]

Deoxys is faster. Rip Tony

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Deoxys is faster. Rip Tony

So sub rel is faster the Rel? lol nope

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

 

[Talonmask]

Deoxys is faster. Rip Tony

So sub rel is faster the Rel? lol nope

Need I repeat myself even.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

Yes i agree
@Talon and FYI With his new armor Model 52 he can morph into any armor he hae made in an instant

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Deoxys is faster. Rip Tony

So sub rel is faster the Rel? lol nope

Need I repeat myself even.

Do i need to repeat myself?

 

[Talonmask]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

Because the suits would require a bit of time to reach him, meaning that Tony could have possibly already lost before they got there.

 

[Talonmask]

Deoxys is faster. Rip Tony

So sub rel is faster the Rel? lol nope

Need I repeat myself even.

Do i need to repeat myself?

Your point doesn't even counter my point.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

Because the suits would require a bit of time to reach him, meaning that Tony could have possibly already lost before they got there.

Not really he can hold off until it arrives, Tony has been known to be a lucky person unless Deoxy's know's hes summoning his suit he won't blitz him.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Let me make a Run down on stat's and abilities so we can put this to rest

DC/AP: Deoxys-Moon level,Tony-Moon level+ (Tony wins)

Durabilty: Deoxys-Moon level(Heavily lowers in attack and speed forms),Tony-Moon level+ (Tony wins)

Speed: Deoxys-Sub rel sub rel+(In speed form),Tony-Rel+ Tony wins)

Hax: Deoxys-Refelct, Confine, and Light barriar , Tony-Morph into any Iron man suit,energy absorption/redirection,immuine to magntism,and invisbilty (Tony wins)

 

[Talonmask]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

Because the suits would require a bit of time to reach him, meaning that Tony could have possibly already lost before they got there.

Not really he can hold off until it arrives, Tony has been known to be a lucky person unless Deoxy's know's hes summoning his suit he won't blitz him.

You also need to factor in the transition of suits, the entire time Tony is changing, he is vulnerable to Deoxys's assualts.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

Because the suits would require a bit of time to reach him, meaning that Tony could have possibly already lost before they got there.

Not really he can hold off until it arrives, Tony has been known to be a lucky person unless Deoxy's know's hes summoning his suit he won't blitz him.

You also need to factor in the transition of suits, the entire time Tony is changing, he is vulnerable to Deoxys's assualts.

Some suits can turn invisible that could be use to stall untill his strongest suit arrives but you do have a point, the real outcome of the battle would be decided by WHERE the battle takes place, if is near his Tower then there's possibility he might win, if it is in a desolated area then theres a posibility that Deoxys might win.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

Because the suits would require a bit of time to reach him, meaning that Tony could have possibly already lost before they got there.

Not really he can hold off until it arrives, Tony has been known to be a lucky person unless Deoxy's know's hes summoning his suit he won't blitz him.

You also need to factor in the transition of suits, the entire time Tony is changing, he is vulnerable to Deoxys's assualts.

Some suits can turn invisible that could be use to stall untill his strongest suit arrives but you do have a point, the real outcome of the battle would be decided by WHERE the battle takes place, if is near his Tower then there's possibility he might win, if it is in a desolated area then theres a posibility that Deoxys might win.

Are we forgetting that Tony's current suit can morph into any suit he previoulsy made in an instant?

 

[Talonmask]

Let me make a Run down on stat's and abilities so we can put this to rest
DC/AP: Deoxys-Moon level,Tony-Moon level+ (Tony wins)

Durabilty: Deoxys-Moon level(Heavily lowers in attack and speed forms),Tony-Moon level+ (Tony wins)

Speed: Deoxys-Sub rel sub rel+(In speed form),Tony-Rel+ Tony wins)

Hax: Deoxys-Refelct, Confine, and Light barriar , Tony-Morph into any Iron man suit,energy absorption/redirection,immuine to magntism,and invisbilty (Tony wins)

Stop excluding Tony's weaker stats and including his strongest ones as if they are a composite. Tony has MHS+ speed and Small Country to Moon level durability in most of his suits.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Let me make a Run down on stat's and abilities so we can put this to rest
DC/AP: Deoxys-Moon level,Tony-Moon level+ (Tony wins)

Durabilty: Deoxys-Moon level(Heavily lowers in attack and speed forms),Tony-Moon level+ (Tony wins)

Speed: Deoxys-Sub rel sub rel+(In speed form),Tony-Rel+ Tony wins)

Hax: Deoxys-Refelct, Confine, and Light barriar , Tony-Morph into any Iron man suit,energy absorption/redirection,immuine to magntism,and invisbilty (Tony wins)

Stop excluding Tony's weaker stats and including his strongest ones as if they are a composite. Tony has MHS+ speed and Small Country to Moon level durability in most of his suits.

That's his suits way back before marvel got recon. Today's Earth 616 iron man is Rel to FTL and Moon level+
(In most suits)

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Let me make a Run down on stat's and abilities so we can put this to rest
DC/AP: Deoxys-Moon level,Tony-Moon level+ (Tony wins)

Durabilty: Deoxys-Moon level(Heavily lowers in attack and speed forms),Tony-Moon level+ (Tony wins)

Speed: Deoxys-Sub rel sub rel+(In speed form),Tony-Rel+ Tony wins)

Hax: Deoxys-Refelct, Confine, and Light barriar , Tony-Morph into any Iron man suit,energy absorption/redirection,immuine to magntism,and invisbilty (Tony wins)

Stop excluding Tony's weaker stats and including his strongest ones as if they are a composite. Tony has MHS+ speed and Small Country to Moon level durability in most of his suits.

That's his suits way back before marvel got recon. Today's Earth 616 iron man is Rel to FTL and Moon level+

If Pietro is right then Tony takes it. I think Tony needs an upgrade in his profile then.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Tony could just turn invisible and enter stealth mode and grab deoxy's throw him into the sun

 

[Talonmask]

Let me make a Run down on stat's and abilities so we can put this to rest
DC/AP: Deoxys-Moon level,Tony-Moon level+ (Tony wins)

Durabilty: Deoxys-Moon level(Heavily lowers in attack and speed forms),Tony-Moon level+ (Tony wins)

Speed: Deoxys-Sub rel sub rel+(In speed form),Tony-Rel+ Tony wins)

Hax: Deoxys-Refelct, Confine, and Light barriar , Tony-Morph into any Iron man suit,energy absorption/redirection,immuine to magntism,and invisbilty (Tony wins)

Stop excluding Tony's weaker stats and including his strongest ones as if they are a composite. Tony has MHS+ speed and Small Country to Moon level durability in most of his suits.

That's his suits way back before marvel got recon. Today's Earth 616 iron man is Rel to FTL and Moon level+

You saying that means nothing if there is no proof for your statement, you even said that he is only Relativistic speed in one suit of armor. Seriously, if he was light speed, it would be included on this forum.

 

[Talonmask]

Tony could just turn invisible and enter stealth mode and grab deoxy's throw him into the su

Deoxys uses Teleport.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Let me make a Run down on stat's and abilities so we can put this to rest
DC/AP: Deoxys-Moon level,Tony-Moon level+ (Tony wins)

Durabilty: Deoxys-Moon level(Heavily lowers in attack and speed forms),Tony-Moon level+ (Tony wins)

Speed: Deoxys-Sub rel sub rel+(In speed form),Tony-Rel+ Tony wins)

Hax: Deoxys-Refelct, Confine, and Light barriar , Tony-Morph into any Iron man suit,energy absorption/redirection,immuine to magntism,and invisbilty (Tony wins)

Stop excluding Tony's weaker stats and including his strongest ones as if they are a composite. Tony has MHS+ speed and Small Country to Moon level durability in most of his suits.

That's his suits way back before marvel got recon. Today's Earth 616 iron man is Rel to FTL and Moon level+

You saying that means nothing if there is no proof for your statement, you even said that he is only Relativistic speed in one suit of armor. Seriously, if he was light speed, it would be included on this forum.

Talon I think they need to update Tony's profile or maybe nobody has presented proof of this...I think i'll do it after this Vs. Battle I don't want it to be infair.

 

[Talonmask]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

Because the suits would require a bit of time to reach him, meaning that Tony could have possibly already lost before they got there.

Not really he can hold off until it arrives, Tony has been known to be a lucky person unless Deoxy's know's hes summoning his suit he won't blitz him.

You also need to factor in the transition of suits, the entire time Tony is changing, he is vulnerable to Deoxys's assualts.

Some suits can turn invisible that could be use to stall untill his strongest suit arrives but you do have a point, the real outcome of the battle would be decided by WHERE the battle takes place, if is near his Tower then there's possibility he might win, if it is in a desolated area then theres a posibility that Deoxys might win.

Agreed. Tony's victory depends heavily on the circumstances pre-conflict.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

"You saying that means nothing if there is no proof for your statement'

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Glossary:Reboot

, you even said that he is only Relativistic speed in one suit of armor

No, i didn't, please stop putting words in my mouth.....

http://i.imgur.com/N2mLCam.png (Extremis armor)

http://i.imgur.com/vkZDA7L.png (Bleeding edge armor)

http://i.imgur.com/WqsYrWK.png (Bleeding edge armor)

http://i.imgur.com/5zzQ9Si.png (Bleeding edge armor)

do i need to show you more feats?

"Seriously, if he was light speed, it would be included on this forum"

Umm, i posted multiple scans of him having FTL speeds, so i don't know what your talking about

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

Because the suits would require a bit of time to reach him, meaning that Tony could have possibly already lost before they got there.

Not really he can hold off until it arrives, Tony has been known to be a lucky person unless Deoxy's know's hes summoning his suit he won't blitz him.

You also need to factor in the transition of suits, the entire time Tony is changing, he is vulnerable to Deoxys's assualts.

Some suits can turn invisible that could be use to stall untill his strongest suit arrives but you do have a point, the real outcome of the battle would be decided by WHERE the battle takes place, if is near his Tower then there's possibility he might win, if it is in a desolated area then theres a posibility that Deoxys might win.

Agreed. Tony's victory depends heavily on the circumstances pre-conflict.

Did you pay attention to what i just said? Tony's New base armor allows him morph into any armor he made in the past in an instant

 

[Talonmask]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

Because the suits would require a bit of time to reach him, meaning that Tony could have possibly already lost before they got there.

Not really he can hold off until it arrives, Tony has been known to be a lucky person unless Deoxy's know's hes summoning his suit he won't blitz him.

You also need to factor in the transition of suits, the entire time Tony is changing, he is vulnerable to Deoxys's assualts.

Some suits can turn invisible that could be use to stall untill his strongest suit arrives but you do have a point, the real outcome of the battle would be decided by WHERE the battle takes place, if is near his Tower then there's possibility he might win, if it is in a desolated area then theres a posibility that Deoxys might win.

Agreed. Tony's victory depends heavily on the circumstances pre-conflict.

Did you pay attention to what i just said? Tony's New base armor allows him morph into any armor he made in the past in an instant

Proof for this please.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

anyway, let's just agree this inconclusive and be done with it......

 

[Talonmask]

"You saying that means nothing if there is no proof for your statement'
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Glossary:Reboot

, you even said that he is only Relativistic speed in one suit of armor

No, i didn't, please stop putting words in my mouth.....

http://i.imgur.com/N2mLCam.png (Extremis armor)

http://i.imgur.com/vkZDA7L.png (Bleeding edge armor)

http://i.imgur.com/WqsYrWK.png (Bleeding edge armor)

http://i.imgur.com/5zzQ9Si.png (Bleeding edge armor)

do i need to show you more feats?

"Seriously, if he was light speed, it would be included on this forum"

Umm, i posted multiple scans of him having FTL speeds, so i don't know what your talking about

How are these feats demonstrating FTL speeds? (Don't regard this as stupidity I am just unaware of the characters you are trying to compare him to in these scans.)

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Cyclops (PF), Jean Gray or Hope Summers (Forgot which one), Gladitor and his eye beams, all move at Speeds of FTL and above and as you can see, tony kept up or blitzed them

 

[Talonmask]

Cyclops (PF), Jean Gray or Hope Summers (Forgot which one), Gladitor and his eye beams, all move at Speeds of FTL and above and as you can see, tony kept up or blitzed them

Are these feats regarded as consistent from author to author? And if so, why didn't you bring this up on the forum beforehand?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

Because the suits would require a bit of time to reach him, meaning that Tony could have possibly already lost before they got there.

Not really he can hold off until it arrives, Tony has been known to be a lucky person unless Deoxy's know's hes summoning his suit he won't blitz him.

You also need to factor in the transition of suits, the entire time Tony is changing, he is vulnerable to Deoxys's assualts.

Some suits can turn invisible that could be use to stall untill his strongest suit arrives but you do have a point, the real outcome of the battle would be decided by WHERE the battle takes place, if is near his Tower then there's possibility he might win, if it is in a desolated area then theres a posibility that Deoxys might win.

Agreed. Tony's victory depends heavily on the circumstances pre-conflict.

Did you pay attention to what i just said? Tony's New base armor allows him morph into any armor he made in the past in an instant

Proof for this please.

http://www.hellocomic.com/invincible-iron-man-2015/c1/p7 http://www.hellocomic.com/invincible-iron-man-2015/c1/p7 http://www.hellocomic.com/invincible-iron-man-2015/c2/p5

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Cyclops (PF), Jean Gray or Hope Summers (Forgot which one), Gladitor and his eye beams, all move at Speeds of FTL and above and as you can see, tony kept up or blitzed them

Are these feats regarded as consistent from author to author? And if so, why didn't you bring this up on the forum beforehand?

Yes, they're and i did.....

 

[Talonmask]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

Because the suits would require a bit of time to reach him, meaning that Tony could have possibly already lost before they got there.

Not really he can hold off until it arrives, Tony has been known to be a lucky person unless Deoxy's know's hes summoning his suit he won't blitz him.

You also need to factor in the transition of suits, the entire time Tony is changing, he is vulnerable to Deoxys's assualts.

Some suits can turn invisible that could be use to stall untill his strongest suit arrives but you do have a point, the real outcome of the battle would be decided by WHERE the battle takes place, if is near his Tower then there's possibility he might win, if it is in a desolated area then theres a posibility that Deoxys might win.

Agreed. Tony's victory depends heavily on the circumstances pre-conflict.

Did you pay attention to what i just said? Tony's New base armor allows him morph into any armor he made in the past in an instant

Proof for this please.

http://www.hellocomic.com/invincible-iron-man-2015/c1/p7 http://www.hellocomic.com/invincible-iron-man-2015/c1/p7 http://www.hellocomic.com/invincible-iron-man-2015/c2/p5

Surely Endo-Sym does not apply, seeing as it's a symbiote and its own thing?

 

[Talonmask]

Cyclops (PF), Jean Gray or Hope Summers (Forgot which one), Gladitor and his eye beams, all move at Speeds of FTL and above and as you can see, tony kept up or blitzed them

Are these feats regarded as consistent from author to author? And if so, why didn't you bring this up on the forum beforehand?

Yes, they're and i did.....

Then how come they weren't accepted?

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat

Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.

He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.

Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

But you know what happens to his speed?, yeah it stays Sub-relativistic, again unless he's Relativistic hes not hitting Tony.

But that requires the circumstance that he is entering the battle in his Model 42 armor. If he is in any other suit besides the Endo-Sym, Deoxys wins.

What's stopping Tony from summoning it mid battle?, Geez can we put this as inconclusive were just going to keep this cycle again and again.

Because the suits would require a bit of time to reach him, meaning that Tony could have possibly already lost before they got there.

Not really he can hold off until it arrives, Tony has been known to be a lucky person unless Deoxy's know's hes summoning his suit he won't blitz him.

You also need to factor in the transition of suits, the entire time Tony is changing, he is vulnerable to Deoxys's assualts.

Some suits can turn invisible that could be use to stall untill his strongest suit arrives but you do have a point, the real outcome of the battle would be decided by WHERE the battle takes place, if is near his Tower then there's possibility he might win, if it is in a desolated area then theres a posibility that Deoxys might win.

Agreed. Tony's victory depends heavily on the circumstances pre-conflict.

Did you pay attention to what i just said? Tony's New base armor allows him morph into any armor he made in the past in an instant

Proof for this please.

http://www.hellocomic.com/invincible-iron-man-2015/c1/p7 http://www.hellocomic.com/invincible-iron-man-2015/c1/p7 http://www.hellocomic.com/invincible-iron-man-2015/c2/p5

Surely Endo-Sym does not apply, seeing as it's a symbiote and its own thing?

IIRC, the symbiote armor can be hidden underneath tony's skin, for when he needs it

 

[Talonmask]

My vote's still on Deoxys, but I believe this battle should be placed under inconclusive until we can get a solid answer from a larger majority of people.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Inconclusive it is