• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Iron Man vs. Deoxys

Pietro Maximoff said:
Deoxys has wider versatility than Tony and is faster than most of his suits, Tony can only compare to Deoxys within the circumstance that he is in Model 42 or Endo-Sym. My vote is still on Deoxys.
Deoxy's isn't more versailty then tony. Don't forget the Extremis,Bleeding edge,Thor buster and hulk buster
Deoxys is faster than those suits, meaning that he is more than capable of dodging the Iron Man's assaults and can easily damage him.
 
The Everlasting said:
From their apparent stats, Deoxys has a pretty notable speed advantage, and quite the AP/Durability advantage, not to mention some pretty good Regenerationn. Overall, I'd say Deoxys would win after a difficult battle.
wait isn't deoxys only sub-relativistic while iron man is normal relativistic?
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
The Everlasting said:
From their apparent stats, Deoxys has a pretty notable speed advantage, and quite the AP/Durability advantage, not to mention some pretty good Regenerationn. Overall, I'd say Deoxys would win after a difficult battle.
wait isn't deoxys only sub-relativistic while iron man is normal relativistic?
Yes
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
Dragonmasterxyz said:
The Everlasting said:
From their apparent stats, Deoxys has a pretty notable speed advantage, and quite the AP/Durability advantage, not to mention some pretty good Regenerationn. Overall, I'd say Deoxys would win after a difficult battle.
wait isn't deoxys only sub-relativistic while iron man is normal relativistic?
Yes
He barley gets a speed increase in his speed form, he only +30 speed in stats, which will bring him to Sub rel+
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
The Everlasting said:
From their apparent stats, Deoxys has a pretty notable speed advantage, and quite the AP/Durability advantage, not to mention some pretty good Regenerationn. Overall, I'd say Deoxys would win after a difficult battle.
wait isn't deoxys only sub-relativistic while iron man is normal relativistic?
Refer to comments above.
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Dragonmasterxyz said:
The Everlasting said:
From their apparent stats, Deoxys has a pretty notable speed advantage, and quite the AP/Durability advantage, not to mention some pretty good Regenerationn. Overall, I'd say Deoxys would win after a difficult battle.
wait isn't deoxys only sub-relativistic while iron man is normal relativistic?
Yes
He barley gets a speed increase in his speed form, he only +30 speed in stats, which will bring him to Sub rel+
Your argument only stated that Tony is Relativistic in one suit of armor, which was Model 42.
 
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Deoxys has wider versatility than Tony and is faster than most of his suits, Tony can only compare to Deoxys within the circumstance that he is in Model 42 or Endo-Sym. My vote is still on Deoxys.
Deoxy's isn't more versailty then tony. Don't forget the Extremis,Bleeding edge,Thor buster and hulk buster
Deoxys is faster than those suits, meaning that he is more than capable of dodging the Iron Man's assaults and can easily damage him.
Bleeding Edge did this http://i.imgur.com/vkZDA7L.png, http://i.imgur.com/WqsYrWK.png and this http://i.imgur.com/5zzQ9Si.png. Thor buster stoped a Hammer throw from thor with one hand......yeah deoxys is still faster.....
 
deoxys also gets superpower, extremespeed, ice beam, hyper beam, giga impact, solar beam, focus blast, cosmic power and calm mind(which raise he DC/AP and durability each time he uses it.) also amnesia and iron defense which sharply raises his durability and recover to restore indurance. protect for a quick shield and psychic and psycho boost.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
deoxys also gets superpower, extremespeed, ice beam, hyper beam, giga impact, solar beam, focus blast, cosmic power and calm mind(which raise he DC/AP and durability each time he uses it.) also amnesia and iron defense which sharply raises his durability and recover to restore indurance. protect for a quick shield and psychic and psycho boost.

deoxy's learns almost all of those moves through tm's and breeding, so unless there's a trainer involved deoxy's only knows it's lvl up moves here

 
6 to 3 in favor of Deoxys? Is this a considerable amount to add Iron Man to its list of victories?
 
no one said they had to be natural moves. plus amnesia, iron defense, cosmic power, hyper beam, psycho boost, psychic, extremespeed and recover are all natural moves. plus you cannot breed a deoxys.
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
Dragonmasterxyz said:
deoxys also gets superpower, extremespeed, ice beam, hyper beam, giga impact, solar beam, focus blast, cosmic power and calm mind(which raise he DC/AP and durability each time he uses it.) also amnesia and iron defense which sharply raises his durability and recover to restore indurance. protect for a quick shield and psychic and psycho boost.
deoxy's learns almost all of those moves through tm's and breeding, so unless there's a trainer involved deoxy's only knows it's lvl up moves here
Point being? Those moves are still a part of its arsenal.
 
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Dragonmasterxyz said:
deoxys also gets superpower, extremespeed, ice beam, hyper beam, giga impact, solar beam, focus blast, cosmic power and calm mind(which raise he DC/AP and durability each time he uses it.) also amnesia and iron defense which sharply raises his durability and recover to restore indurance. protect for a quick shield and psychic and psycho boost.
deoxy's learns almost all of those moves through tm's and breeding, so unless there's a trainer involved deoxy's only knows it's lvl up moves here{| class="data-table wide-table"
| class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| |}
Point being? Those moves are still a part of its arsenal.

You need a trainer to learn Most of those moves, he dosen't naturally learn them, so unless deoxy's has a trainer he can't use them...
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
If anything this is Inconclusive
It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage.
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Dragonmasterxyz said:
deoxys also gets superpower, extremespeed, ice beam, hyper beam, giga impact, solar beam, focus blast, cosmic power and calm mind(which raise he DC/AP and durability each time he uses it.) also amnesia and iron defense which sharply raises his durability and recover to restore indurance. protect for a quick shield and psychic and psycho boost.
deoxy's learns almost all of those moves through tm's and breeding, so unless there's a trainer involved deoxy's only knows it's lvl up moves here{| class="data-table wide-table"
| class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| |}
Point being? Those moves are still a part of its arsenal.
You need a trainer to learn Most of those moves, he dosen't naturally learn them, so unless deoxy's has a trainer he can't use them...
Just like how Tony requires his Endo-Sym to sufficently absorb and resist Deoxys's assaults, a battle between the two would not allow changing suits because that would leave him completely vulnerable or would allow Deoxys to set up defenses.
 
"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"

No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat
 
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Dragonmasterxyz said:
deoxys also gets superpower, extremespeed, ice beam, hyper beam, giga impact, solar beam, focus blast, cosmic power and calm mind(which raise he DC/AP and durability each time he uses it.) also amnesia and iron defense which sharply raises his durability and recover to restore indurance. protect for a quick shield and psychic and psycho boost.
deoxy's learns almost all of those moves through tm's and breeding, so unless there's a trainer involved deoxy's only knows it's lvl up moves here{| class="data-table wide-table"
| class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| |}
Point being? Those moves are still a part of its arsenal.
You need a trainer to learn Most of those moves, he dosen't naturally learn them, so unless deoxy's has a trainer he can't use them...
Just like how Tony requires his Endo-Sym to sufficently absorb and resist Deoxys's assaults, a battle between the two would not allow changing suits because that would leave him completely vulnerable or would allow Deoxys to set up defenses.

He doesn't need his endo sym armor to absorb Dexoy's attacks, he has his Wand of Watoomb for that and has i just showed you his other armor's....
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat
Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"

No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat
He's only outmatched if Tony happens to be in one of two specific suits, otherwise Deoxys would blitz him.
 
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat
Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.
He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.
 
"He's only outmatched if Tony happens to be in one of two specific suits, otherwise Deoxys would blitz him"

No, Dexoy is outmatched by Tony in his Model 52,Endo Sym,Extremis,Thor buster,Bleeding edge,and Hulk buster all of which can are Moon level+ and above and Sub rel and above
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Dragonmasterxyz said:
deoxys also gets superpower, extremespeed, ice beam, hyper beam, giga impact, solar beam, focus blast, cosmic power and calm mind(which raise he DC/AP and durability each time he uses it.) also amnesia and iron defense which sharply raises his durability and recover to restore indurance. protect for a quick shield and psychic and psycho boost.
deoxy's learns almost all of those moves through tm's and breeding, so unless there's a trainer involved deoxy's only knows it's lvl up moves here{| class="data-table wide-table"
| class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| |}
Point being? Those moves are still a part of its arsenal.
You need a trainer to learn Most of those moves, he dosen't naturally learn them, so unless deoxy's has a trainer he can't use them...
Just like how Tony requires his Endo-Sym to sufficently absorb and resist Deoxys's assaults, a battle between the two would not allow changing suits because that would leave him completely vulnerable or would allow Deoxys to set up defenses.
He doesn't need his endo sym armor to absorb Dexoy's attacks, he has his Wand of Watoomb for that and has i just showed you his other armor's....
He would have to know that he had to use the wand to survive a hit, which extends to prior knowledge.
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat
deoxys would win unless you say this is a trainer trained deoxys vs a full equipment iron-man. either way deoxys would either win or hax tony to death or tony would win with very high difficulty. just because it is a tm it is still part of a pokemon's movepool and arsenal. heck in the anime pokemon are shown with moves in the wild that they should not be able to learn. for example mewtwo has access to shadow ball despite not being able to learn it naturally.
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
"He's only outmatched if Tony happens to be in one of two specific suits, otherwise Deoxys would blitz him"
No, Dexoy is outmatched by Tony in his Model 52,Endo Sym,Extremis,Thor buster,Bleeding edge,and Hulk buster all of which can are Moon level+ and above and Sub rel and above
Proof?
 
CaptainFalcon64 said:
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat
Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.
He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.
Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.
 
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Dragonmasterxyz said:
deoxys also gets superpower, extremespeed, ice beam, hyper beam, giga impact, solar beam, focus blast, cosmic power and calm mind(which raise he DC/AP and durability each time he uses it.) also amnesia and iron defense which sharply raises his durability and recover to restore indurance. protect for a quick shield and psychic and psycho boost.
deoxy's learns almost all of those moves through tm's and breeding, so unless there's a trainer involved deoxy's only knows it's lvl up moves here{| class="data-table wide-table"
| class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| |}
Point being? Those moves are still a part of its arsenal.
You need a trainer to learn Most of those moves, he dosen't naturally learn them, so unless deoxy's has a trainer he can't use them...
Just like how Tony requires his Endo-Sym to sufficently absorb and resist Deoxys's assaults, a battle between the two would not allow changing suits because that would leave him completely vulnerable or would allow Deoxys to set up defenses.
He doesn't need his endo sym armor to absorb Dexoy's attacks, he has his Wand of Watoomb for that and has i just showed you his other armor's....
He would have to know that he had to use the wand to survive a hit, which extends to prior knowledge.
Knowledge tony's armor gains by fighting in a lengthy battle, his armor '"Learns while it fights a being. Besides he could always just use his many suit's to absrob dexoy's attack
 
Talonmask said:
CaptainFalcon64 said:
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat
Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.
He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.
Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.

Did you listen to anyhing i just said? He only gets a +30 stats increase which is still moon level, and tony is Moon level+ in many armor's that's a hughe difference
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
Dragonmasterxyz said:
deoxys also gets superpower, extremespeed, ice beam, hyper beam, giga impact, solar beam, focus blast, cosmic power and calm mind(which raise he DC/AP and durability each time he uses it.) also amnesia and iron defense which sharply raises his durability and recover to restore indurance. protect for a quick shield and psychic and psycho boost.
deoxy's learns almost all of those moves through tm's and breeding, so unless there's a trainer involved deoxy's only knows it's lvl up moves here{| class="data-table wide-table"
| class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="cell-icon"| | class="num"| | class="num"| |- | class="num"| | class="cell-icon-string"| |}
Point being? Those moves are still a part of its arsenal.
You need a trainer to learn Most of those moves, he dosen't naturally learn them, so unless deoxy's has a trainer he can't use them...
Just like how Tony requires his Endo-Sym to sufficently absorb and resist Deoxys's assaults, a battle between the two would not allow changing suits because that would leave him completely vulnerable or would allow Deoxys to set up defenses.
He doesn't need his endo sym armor to absorb Dexoy's attacks, he has his Wand of Watoomb for that and has i just showed you his other armor's....
He would have to know that he had to use the wand to survive a hit, which extends to prior knowledge.
Knowledge tony's armor gains by fighting in a lengthy battle, his armor '"Learns while it fights a being. Besides he could always just use his many suit's to absrob dexoy's attack
Who's saying the battle's going to be very long?
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
Talonmask said:
CaptainFalcon64 said:
Talonmask said:
Pietro Maximoff said:
"It's already been argued that for Tony to have a chance would be for him to have Endo-Sym or Model 42 on his person at that specific time, otherwise Deoxys has a speed and destructive power advantage"
No just no, Dexoy's only get's a plus +30 speed boost which is still Sub rel

same for his attack he only get's a +30 increase in attack wich is still Moon level....

so i don't know how Deoxy takes this, when his outmatched in almost every stat
Again, Iron Man is faster than Deoxys in one suit. That's it. Iron Man is Small Country to Moon level+ durability. Deoxys is at least Moon level to higher in other formes.
He's higher in 1 form only and thats Defense Form, with the other ones hes only Moon Level.
Deoxys is Moon level+ potency via Attack-Forme, which surpasses Tony's Small Country+ to Moon level durability.
Did you listen to anyhing i just said? He only gets a +30 stats increase which is still moon level, and tony is Moon level+ in many armor's that's a hughe difference
You keep saying this 30+ increase like it means nothing at all, I don't believe you understand what you are even stating with that. Also, do you not realize that Deoxys has moves that literally halve the destructive capability of attacks?
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
Anyway can i get a lock thread? Looks like we can't get a unanimous winner here and i have to go to work soon..
Just because you need to go doesn't mean we have to lock the thread.
 
"You keep saying this 30+ increase like it means nothing at all, I don't believe you understand what you are even stating with that. Also, do you not realize that Deoxys has moves that literally halve the destructive capability of attacks"

That's beacase that's the offical amount of increase dexoy's gets when switiching forms,dude i have been playing and watching pokemon since Pokemon red and blue and the orginal pokemon anime so i think i know what i'm talking about, dexoy's only has Three move like that, which is light screen, confie, and Refelect, and Light screen and confie don't even lower Attack they lower Specail Attack, something tony dosen't have and reflect only lower's the Physical attack....
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
"You keep saying this 30+ increase like it means nothing at all, I don't believe you understand what you are even stating with that. Also, do you not realize that Deoxys has moves that literally halve the destructive capability of attacks"
That's beacase that's the offical amount of increase dexoy's gets when switiching forms, dexoy's only has Three move like that, which is light screen, confie, and Refelect, and Light screen and confie don't even lower Attack they lower Specail Attack, something tony dosen't have and reflect only lower's the Physical attack....
Special attacks are referred to as attacks that use energy, so yes, Tony does have them. Also, Deoxys can use Calm Mind, which can quadruple his Special Defense at the maximum.
 
Specail attack's ae things like how strong a burn is on a pokemon, how strong a posion is on a pokemon, how strong spikes are on a pokemon, how strong rough skin is on a pokemon. and no tony does not have specail attacks like that.....
 
Pietro Maximoff said:
Specail attack's ae things like how strong a burn is on a pokemon, how strong a posion is on a pokemon, how strong spikes are on a pokemon, how strong rough skin is on a pokemon. and no tony does not have specail attacks like that.....
No, burns and poison are statuses applied by status inflicting moves, not attacks. Special Attacks are moves that are magical or use energy to deal direct damage, opposed to Normal Attacks which are physical. (Tony's Unibeam is a perfect example of an energy move.)
 
Back
Top