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Instant Death Revision

Elizhaa

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  1. Everyone with gifts/battle song/system:
    1. gets updated lifting strength from Yasaki’s statement on those who are level 1|| Superhuman Lifting Strenght for now for those with Unknown Lifting Strenght: (Volume 1 Chapter 4): lifting strength general statement for level 1 with gift; the feat is already accepted in this past thread but wasn’t index: https://vsbattles.com/threads/insta...ions-and-fujitakaverse-tier-1-fallout.121466/
    2. Gifts have Automatic Translation: Volume 9 Chapter 11
    3. Accelerated development through battle songs from things like leveling up:
    4. General: Everyone in the system or with Battle Song manipulation should have information analysis since they can read their own status and could see information on other’s like level and class name
  2. Yogiri Takatou
    1. Causality Manipulation from evidence from this thread; this text (“Additionally, its attacks are also not attached to causality due to its nature.”) from his implies he can do it already in his base form:
      1. Volume 2 Chapter 13
      2. Volume 4 Chapter 4
      3. Volume 4 Chapter 20
      4. Volume 5 Chapter 6
      5. Volume 6 Chapter 24: No causality
      6. Volume 7 Chapter 21: God can't see the cause and effect of Yogiri's attacks
      7. Volume 8 Chapter 14: No cause and effect observed for powers:
        1. Considering this the worst-case scenario, they analyzed the situation. But no one could understand what had happened. There was no indication they had received any damage. They had just dropped dead. They had ceased to function. There didn’t seem to be any cause to the effect or an activation of any power.
    2. Acrobatics: (Side Story: Land of the Dead: shown to be acrobatic)
    3. New powers (as a being in the sea; true form should be able to do based on these statements)
      1. It is already accepted or brought over things that exist rely on Yogiri’s perception so I think it doable that its true form could replicate these powers described also (scans on profile/it also stated nothing much is allowed outside his perception (Volume 7 Chapter 8):
      2. Volume 7 Chapter 19: Stated by a notable/knowledge character, its ability would be akin to true erasure so it should be to all erasure as in volume 8
      3. Volume 8 Chapter 14: Instant death. Reflection. Time stop. Time reversal. Spatial severance. Total erasure. Conceptual attacks. Causality erasure. Such things were possible for virtually anyone in the sea, so the leaders of the pirates were more than capable of neutralizing them.
        1. Death Manipulation, Attack Reflection, Time Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Conceptual Manipulation, Causality Manipulation
    4. Law Manipulation:
      1. Already implicitly implied, given he could destroy all phenomenon (scans on profile)
      2. Kill another Kingdom and all of its rules. Its rule could affect gods like Hiruko (Volume 9 Chapter 18)
    5. Sleep Manipulation resistance:
      1. Volume 9 Chapter 7: resistance to sleep manipulation
    6. Removed full detail about him completely understanding the world's languages on his intelligence; intelligence rating might remain the same, from other feats: Volume 9 Chapter 11
    7. Edited: Yogiri make King unable to move (Vol 4 side story)
      1. But then their eyes met. The boy was looking at him.

        That was impossible. There was no way he could see this dimension. No matter where he looked, from within three-dimensional space, it was impossible to see someone in the Abyss. And yet he could tell that the boy was watching him.
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        And then he suddenly understood. He had only been letting them run free. This world, this alternate dimension, was all a part of that of that young boy. If he wished it, they would lose their freedom here.
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  3. Lain Tendou
    1. New powers (most powers are from Euphemia from general vampire statements or Origin Vampire statements):
      1. Telekinesis: (Volume 2 Chapter 11)
      2. Animal Manipulation: Charm for people and animals: (Volume 2 Chapter 11)
      3. Enhanced mind manipulation: (Volume 5 Chapter 13)
      4. Self-substance type 3: (Volume 2 Chapter 11)
      5. Shapeshifting (vampire powers): (Volume 5 Chapter 12)
      6. Plant Manipulation: Can control trees like Euphemia as a vampire (Volume 5 Chapter 3)
      7. Healing: (Volume 5 Chapter 13): healing magic
      8. Volume 9 Chapter 5: Enhanced Senses, Light Manipulation
      9. Volume 9 Chapter 6: black mist - Intangibility and durability negation
    2. Can regenerate mental and soul damage: Volume 10 Chapter 7
    3. Clothes manipulation: Volume 1 Chapter 18
  4. Aoi Hayanose
    1. Hunted Rogue Sages are equal, so she might be 7-A; average sages are rated as 7-A like Lain and Yoshifumi
      1. Volume 5 Chapter 11:
        1. One point of advice: If you become too strong, you will be designated as a Rogue Sage and assassinated! You aren’t strong enough to fight a Sage yet, so try to avoid anything that will make you stand out! Hanakawa remembered his time with Aoi. Rogue Sages were those who were as powerful as Sages but refused to join their ranks. Aoi’s job had been to hunt them down and kill them.
  5. The Heavenly Record Eater(scaling to other Heavenly Record Eater)
    1. body control (Volume 8 Chapter 4)
    2. Enhanced Senses: Enhanced smell: (Volume 8 Chapter 5)
    3. Body control : (Volume 8 Chapter 17)
    4. toxic miasma (aura) : (Volume 8 Chapter 17)
    5. Volume 8 Chapter 14: Instant death. Reflection. Time stop. Time reversal. Spatial severance. Total erasure. Conceptual attacks. Causality erasure. Such things were possible for virtually anyone in the sea, so the leaders of the pirates were more than capable of neutralizing them.
      1. Death Manipulation, Attack Reflection, Time Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Conceptual Manipulation, Causality Manipulation
    6. The Heavenly Record Eater's true form abilities should have the highest rank, too, given they can fight gods; the verse context clarifies lower rank power can't affect higher rank at all.
  6. Rainier/ Lynel (renamed to Lynel seems to be largely referred to as such)
  7. Hedgehog (Instant Death)
    1. Volume 9 Chapter 9: can cut through space/ Spatial Manipulation
    2. Volume 9 Chapter 11: accelerated development (same hedgehog)
    3. Can sense gods: Volume 9 Chapter 13
    4. Volume 10 Chapter 16: new keys; strongest demon lord; possession; aura
    5. Volume 10 Chapter 16: Regeneration: High-Mid (can regenerate from its core which is really small)
      1. Context on how small the core was: Volume 9 Chapter 11
    6. Edited: Volume 7 Chapter 23: Law Manipulation and Causality Manipulation: Volume 7 Chapter 23
  8. Theodosia
    1. Volume 2 Chapter 18: can see a ghost from being a half-demon
    2. Volume 5 Chapter 16: shapeshifting
      1. Volume 2 Chapter 15
    3. Volume 2 Chapter 19: Light Magic; Magic / Light Manipulation
  9. Tomochika Dannoura
    1. Power Nullification: ghost could temporarily disable gift; later clarified by Euphemia: Volume 5 Chapter 13:
    2. Creation with Mokomoko and Furemaru
      1. Volume 7 Chapter 2
      2. Volume 8 Chapter 3: creation again
      3. Volume 10 Chapter 11: Some sort of protective equipment seems necessary after all. If we still had Furemaru, we could have created a protective suit that covers your entire body, but... “That suit was a bit too form-fitting for my tastes.”
    3. Volume 10 Chapter 5: Mokomoko's resistance to BFR
    4. Volume 10 Chapter 15: Mokomoko possession
    5. Weapon control
      1. Volume 1 Chapter 23: Weapon control
      2. Volume 1 Chapter 38: Weapon control barrier (Forcefield Creation)
  10. Teresa (Instant Death)
    1. Volume 2 Chapter 10: limited resurrection like on Rick’s profile
  11. Iselda
    1. BFR: Volume 6 Chapter 17 via subspace
    2. Resistance to BFR: Volume 6 Chapter 19 (Youko viewed Iselda as someone who could move through subspace and not be trapped)
  12. Ultimate Extermination God (UEG)
    1. Overlord (sealed/sub component’s powers): Volume 9 Chapter 4(fire, electricity manipulation)
      1. Refer as overlord: (Volume 9 Chapter 6)
      2. Volume 10 Chapter 1
  13. Sages: (for volume Sages)
    1. Mind Manipulation resistance:
      1. Volume 9 Chapter 20: mental resistance since Omega Sword can't read their mind
        1. Omega Sword couldn’t read sages like Sage Alice (Volume 9 Chapter 19)
      2. Volume 1 Chapter 37: Should have superior resistance to Sage attendants like Ryouta who had High-level resistance to citywide mind control.
    2. Additions to Battle Song: Volume 9 Chapter 12: The battle song is provable law manipulation
  1. Omnipotence (why have all powers sans Yogiri's specific)
    1. Volume 6 Chapter 25
    2. Volume 7 Chapter 22
    3. An additional tabber could be made on the gods' profile about Battle Song System regarding as they directly gain any ability from it; currently, the list is incomplete, which would periodically be updated with CRT, but for some cases, abilities already accepted on characters from Instant Verse like Yoshifumi should be added.
      1. Edited: I didn't a proper list of Gifts. I guess these from Nix's sandbox should work for powers/resistance gods could get, from god apostles or those who received gifts from gods:
  2. Sages: (for volume Sages)
    1. Powers from Sages
      1. Resistance Negation (Can lower the resistance one has to an ability to zero[8])
      2. Power Nullification (Can restrict abilities, render them unusable, and become immune to them[5][8])
      3. Extrasensory Perception (Sages locate and mentally picture the location of those with the system[1])
      4. Self-Sustenance (Type 2[1])
      5. Soul Absorption (Everyone with the system can absorb souls in order to make their own soul bigger and heavier and thus level up[2][3][4])
      6. Power Bestowal (Sages can bestow gifts unto others and also grant immunity towards gifts[5])
      7. Death Manipulation, Life Manipulation (Sages have control over the life and death of those with the systems[6][1])
      8. Forcefield Creation (Can erect barriers with multiple effects such as only letting certain people/things through)
      9. Resistances:
        1. Death Manipulation (Everyone with the system can resist the effects of instant death magic as long as they are stronger than the user[9])
        2. Fear Manipulation (Those with the system get their fear suppressed by the system[6][7] and Soul Manipulation (When people with the system absorb the souls of others, they increase the power, density, size, and magnitude of their own[2][3])
        3. Soul Absorption (Everyone with the system can absorb souls in order to make their own soul bigger and heavier and thus level up[2][3][4])
        4. Fear Manipulation (The system decreases fear towards death[6][7]) and Morality Manipulation (The system numbs aversion to manslaughter. The system diverts summons thoughts from their homes[7])
        5. Law Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation (Sages overwrite abnormal laws of space in order to make them fit for their existence[1]. Gods, if not weakened by other gods, view breaking rule binding contract as feeble (Volume 10 Chapter 14))
    2. (NEW) Mind Manipulation resistance:
      1. Volume 9 Chapter 20: mental resistance since Omega Sword can't read their mind
        1. Omega Sword couldn’t read sages like Sage Alice (Volume 9 Chapter 19)
      2. Volume 1 Chapter 37: Should have superior resistance to Sage attendants like Ryouta, who had High-level resistance to citywide mind control.
      3. Mind Manipulation (A god’s thoughts are not done with a brain of sorts unless incarnated), and Overwhelming Aura (Including effects such as Perception Manipulation, Paralysis, and Death Manipulation; Completely unaffected by the aura of the devil-kin) from Vahanato's profile scling.
    3. Additions to Battle Song: Volume 9 Chapter 12: The battle song is provable law manipulation
  3. Gods (most sages battle song powers) [most are already there; it is just power that should be added to gods profiles:
    1. Resurrection (Volume 4 Chapter 16)
    2. Use every type of magic Magic and Self-Substance Typ 3 (Volume 4 Chapter 16)
      1. Include Magic like instant death, Elemental Manipulation
      2. : Volume 5 Chapter 16: shapeshifting magic
        1. Volume 2 Chapter 15
      3. Volume 1 Chapter 19
        1. Fire/Electricity Manipulation: Volume 1 Chapter 19
        2. Flight: Volume 1 Chapter 19
        3. Ice Manipulation: Volume 1 Chapter 19
      4. Volume 9 Chapter 7: Ice and Fire Magic
      5. Volume 10 Chapter 17: resurrection and healing magic
      6. Volume 1 Chapter 18: Cloth Manipulation like Lain
      7. Volume 2 Chapter 19: Light Magic / Light Manipulation
      8. Volume 2 Chapter 23: Summonic magic
        1. Summoning: Volume 4 Chapter 16
      9. Volume 3 Chapter 11: Fire magic
      10. Volume 3 Chapter 7: Dragon Magic
      11. Volume 4 Chapter 16: should have Mei’s magic since her power/magic is described as counterfeit magic by gods
    3. Volume 4 Chapter 2: should be comparable to Mana’s, who exceed Sage’s control of Battle Song
    4. Volume 5 Chapter 8: time manipulation
    5. Volume 5 Chapter 10: healing / power modificationof gifts from Zakuro
      1. Power Modification of gift by gods: Volume 4 Chapter 16
    6. Volume 6 Chapter 19: body creation, soul manipulation, power nullification, fear manipulation, cosmic awareness, teleportation
    7. Volume 6 Chapter 25: power Bestowal, resistance listsfor shield power that gods should get
      1. resistance to ability like conceptual manipulation given the shield can block the conceptual attack....
        1. Volume 6 Chapter 8
        2. Volume 6 Chapter 14
    8. Shapeshifting:
      1. Volume 7 Chapter 13: shapeshifting
    9. mind manipulation, life, and death manipulation:
      1. Volume 7 Chapter 14
      2. Volume 7 Chapter 21
    10. Volume 8 Chapter 4: power Bestowal (Zakuro)
    11. Volume 8 Chapter 13: godly aura scaling to Takumi
    12. Volume 8 Chapter 14: Instant death. Reflection. Time stop. Time reversal. Spatial severance. Total erasure. Conceptual attacks. Causality erasure. Such things were possible for virtually anyone in the sea, so the leaders of the pirates were more than capable of neutralizing them.
    13. telekinesis / fligth
      1. Volume 9 Chapter 4: flight / telekinesis (baby goddess - Luu)
      2. Volume 9 Chapter 13: Flight / telekinesis (similar to Luu)
    14. Forcefield:
      1. Volume 9 Chapter 18: “Hiruko, could you make a barrier around us or something?” “Probably, but I think Ma is better at things like that.” “Can you do it, then, Luu?” “Yeah!” As the girl answered, a bubble appeared around them. “It’s like making a totally new world,” Hiruko explained. “The inside of this bubble is separate from the outside, so nothing in the outside world can affect us here.”
    15. Telepathy
      1. Volume 10 Chapter 1: “By the way, unless it’s something really important, we don’t read people’s minds. So you’ll be fine no matter what you say. Just relax and answer.”
      2. Volume 7 Chapter 14: Telepathy, teleportation Bestowal
      3. Volume 9 Chapter 6: telepathy
    16. invisibility
      1. Volume 10 Chapter 2: “On that note, couldn’t you use your powers as a god to make us invisible or something? We could at least go look around town then.” “Yeah, that would be a piece of cake.”
    17. Probability Manipulation:
      1. Volume 10 Chapter 8: “But why...” It was strange enough that the wand had successfully fired at all, but not only that, it had done so with extraordinary power. For Lynel, who was used to his own atrocious luck, such a thing was unimaginable. “It is quite simple. I altered your luck. The rule was that I could not interfere with the wand, so that much was allowed, yes?” “You can do that?!” “I am a god. Something like that is child’s—”
    18. Volume 10 Chapter 14: spatial manipulation from Hiruko
    19. Information Manipulation, Information Analysis, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), and Reality Warping (Should be capable of accessing the higher layer of information of the world similar to her angels (Volume 8 Chapter 10). Can manipulate the world’s core which defines the world (Volume 8 Chapter 10). By manipulating the world's core, the reality also will be impacted by it. Those with the authority of godcan freely manipulate the world (Volume 8 Chapter 10))
      1. Edited credit to NiK Faris:
        Law Manipulation and Causality Manipulation (The ability to rewrite phenomena is a norm for god. Should be comparable to the god who could rewrite a predetermined outcome (Volume 7 Chapter 23))
      2. Teleportation:
        1. Volume 7 Chapter 21
        2. Volume 9 Chapter 8: flight and teleportation
      3. Power Nullification (The battle of the gods are about domains, and similar powers will nullify each other making them powerless (Volume 7 Chapter 22)), Sealing (The battle of the gods lead to either slavery of the loser or sealing of their power (Volume 7 Chapter 22))
    20. Also, since to topic of baseline tends to things for ability and resistances, as gods: god's abilities and resistances should among the highestat rank 10.
      1. After all rank 7 and above can only be required by myth or legend creatures and a god (Which lies supreme of all) should scale at the highest. There is also the case that Kouryu possesses the highest gift from root (Volume 6 Chapter 17).
    21. Paralysis Inducement:
      1. Touichirou spun around and swung his fist. She caught his punch and crushed his fist in her hand. Her power then flowed into him, restraining him from within. She had taken hold of him, leaving him paralyzed. (Vol.10)
      2. Hiruko's countless eyes make Hedgehog unable to move (Volume 9 Chapter 11) - this may scale to other gods due to their omnipotence
    22. Mana (Volume 4 Chapter 2), a god, and her spawns (Volume 4 Chapter 18) have absorption; it would be included in the power that gods can replicate.

Missing on some profiles; Telepathy, Telekinesis, Flight, magic, elemental Manipulation, instant death, Probability Manipulation since UEG's statement seems applicable to all gods, invisibility, Forcefield creation (seems higher tier), Summoning, healing, Forcefield creation, conceptual manipulation (type 1), law manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation, Time Stop, Attack Reflection, among others
 
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Agree but shouldn’t hedgehog had law manipulation via its domain? At least domain of it should be similar to that of god unless I mistaken something.
 
NIK_FARIS said:
Agree but shouldn’t hedgehog had law manipulation via its domain? At least domain of it should be similar to that of god unless I mistaken something.
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It seems doable; I added the ability to the OP similarly to what you have for the gods, and I also updated the OP with missing additions.
 
Shouldn't this includes Adaptation or RE as well?
Power Nullification (Can restrict abilities, render them unusable, and become immune to them[5][8])
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Agree with everything else.
 
I'll agree with everything, mostly regarding God's Omnipotence that they should virtually be able to do everything the battle song can do. I always wondered why Gift/Battlesong has not considered accelerated development.
 
I think we can add possibly paralysis inducement for God and Yogiri.
Yogiri make King unable to move (Vol 4 side story)
Hiruko's countless eyes make Hedgehog unable to move (Vol 9) - this may scale to other gods due to their omnipotence
 
NIK_FARIS said:
I think we can add possibly paralysis inducement for God and Yogiri.
Yogiri make King unable to move (Vol 4 side story)
Hiruko's countless eyes make Hedgehog unable to move (Vol 9) - this may scale to other gods due to their omnipotence
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Adding.

Touichirou spun around and swung his fist. She caught his punch and crushed his fist in her hand. Her power then flowed into him, restraining him from within. She had taken hold of him, leaving him paralyzed. (Vol.10)
 
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NIK_FARIS said:
I think we can add possibly paralysis inducement for God and Yogiri.
Yogiri make King unable to move (Vol 4 side story)
Hiruko's countless eyes make Hedgehog unable to move (Vol 9) - this may scale to other gods due to their omnipotence
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Overlord_THE_END said:
Adding.

Touichirou spun around and swung his fist. She caught his punch and crushed his fist in her hand. Her power then flowed into him, restraining him from within. She had taken hold of him, leaving him paralyzed. (Vol.10)
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I guess the seems fine. I will add it to the OP.

Also, since to topic of baseline tends to things for ability and resistances, as gods: god's abilities and resistances should among the highest at rank 10; I added it to the OP.
 
Elizhaa said:
I guess the seems fine. I will add it to the OP.

Also, since to topic of baseline tends to things for ability and resistances, as gods: god's abilities and resistances should among the highest at rank 10; I added it to the OP.
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Yeah, agree. After all rank 7 and above can only be acquire by myth or legend creature and as a god (Which lies supreme of all) should scale at the highest. There also the case that Kouryu possess the highest gift from root.
 
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Dereck03 said:
Shouldn't this includes Adaptation or RE as well?
Power Nullification (Can restrict abilities, render them unusable, and become immune to them[5][8])
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Agree with everything else.
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It could be RE; gods' case is superior since they can interfere with any lineages and should be able to replicate the feats. I will add it to the OP.
NIK_FARIS said:
Yeah, agree. After all rank 7 and above can only be require by myth or legend creature and as a god (Which lies supreme of all) should scale at the highest. There also the case that Kouryu possess the highest gift from root (Volume 6 Chapter 17).
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Yes, I will add supporting evidence.
 
Arzzz said:
isn't yogiri just joking there?..judging from the beginning of the context there they are joking
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Perhaps, but knowing Takatou's blunt personality, he rarely jokes around especially going along with Hanakawa's dumb joke.
IMO, in this context, it just seems Takatou is just answering with fax to Hanakawa's question (probably feeling tired with all the dumb things Hanakawa had to say in the beginning).
 
I don’t know if this help, but yogiri immediately wake up when he sense that there impending doom that will be cause by Darian’s attack (Volume 5)
 
NIK_FARIS said:
I don’t know if this help, but yogiri immediately wake up when he sense that there impending doom that will be cause by Darian’s attack (Volume 5)
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Honestly, that wouldn't count as resistance to sleep manip, no? Considering it was a normal sleep caused by him feeling tired after using his power multiple times in the capital.
 
Overlord_THE_END said:
Honestly, that wouldn't count as resistance to sleep manip, no? Considering it was a normal sleep caused by him feeling tired after using his power multiple times in the capital.
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What I want to say is that Yogiri will woke up from his sleep when he is in danger. This might just be extrasensory perception or instinct which he already have but it not farfetch to say he still could do the same
 
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I miss this point; The Heavenly Record Eater would also get these abilities as being in the sea; I added it to the OP:
  • Volume 8 Chapter 14: Instant death. Reflection. Time stop. Time reversal. Spatial severance. Total erasure. Conceptual attacks. Causality erasure. Such things were possible for virtually anyone in the sea, so the leaders of the pirates were more than capable of neutralizing them.
    1. Death Manipulation, Attack Reflection, Time Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Conceptual Manipulation, Causality Manipulation

Elizhaa said:
Also, since to topic of baseline tends to things for ability and resistances, as gods: god's abilities and resistances should among the highest at rank 10; I added it to the OP.
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NIK_FARIS said:
Yeah, agree. After all rank 7 and above can only be acquire by myth or legend creature and as a god (Which lies supreme of all) should scale at the highest. There also the case that Kouryu possess the highest gift from root.
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I recall The Heavenly Record Eater's true form abilities should have the highest rank, too, given they can fight gods; the verse context clarifies lower rank power can't affect higher rank at all. I added it to the OP.


Mana (Volume 4 Chapter 2), a god, and her spawns (Volume 4 Chapter 18) have absorption; it would be included in the power that gods can replicate. I added it to the OP.
I added the updates to the OP.
I think these updates are about it for now, and I will try to get more inputs.
 
If all being accepted here, I will be adding them into Malnarina’s and Kouryu’s profile ... when I have time
 
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I just realize, what about all the power MalnaRilna apostle possess? Such as Temperature manipulation (Absolute Zero) or Power Absorption (Kris), etc.
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NIK_FARIS said:
Technically, Absolute zero is its own ability here.
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It should be fine. I didn't a proper list of Gifts; I guess these list from Nix's sandbox should work for powers/resistance gods could get, from god apostles or those who received gifts from gods (some abilities are repeated, though. I made the additions to the OP)
 
Elizhaa said:
It should be fine. I didn't a proper list of Gifts; I guess these list from Nix's sandbox should work for powers/resistance gods could get, from god apostles or those who received gifts from gods (some abilities are repeated, though. I made the additions to the OP)
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Yes, and of course, if Nik is also okay with it.
 
Got it. Thanks for the input.

Overall, the changes looks largely accepted so I will start apply them.
 
This is just thought of mine, but shouldn’t Yogiri have bfr. I mean he banish UEG to his void. In a way, this might consider new add justification for sealing as UEG can’t escape from the place akin she being seal in that place.
 
Hmm, Yogiri's attack has cause and effect. Why it sound like another evidence for Immeasurable speed attack to me. Hmmm
 
Vietthai96 said:
Hmm, Yogiri's attack has cause and effect. Why it sound like another evidence for Immeasurable speed attack to me. Hmmm
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I can see what you mean but the thing is that Yogiri power had been stated many time to have no cause and effect relationship.

Tower system couldn’t see any cause and effect related to Yogiri attack (vol 2)

HRE couldn’t able to change his destiny eventhough he overturned the time and he stated that his ability is beyond causality. (Vol 3)

God who can react and fight at immeasurable speed, even with their eye couldn’t see any cause and effect relate to her twin death by Yogiri. (Vol 7)

Sea bandit even with their technology that they have in journey through the Sea incapable of seeing any cause and effect relation to their comrades death (vol 8)

There are more but I don’t remember what vol is it.
 
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This is just thought of mine, but shouldn’t Yogiri have bfr. I mean he banish UEG to his void. In a way, this might consider new add justification for sealing as UEG can’t escape from the place akin she being seal in that place.
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It seems so; though, I think it was under it Void Manipulation.
 
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