Injustice: Revisions Amogus (Volume 1)

[ArkhamDC06]

Also, Poseidon fought with Aquaman and Mera

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Where does 6-C come from btw?

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Basically from the original Low 6-B feat

Superman and Darkseid shook Apokolips to the core when fighting but it wasn't immediate and it was done out of their combined strength so basically each one of them has half of the strength needed to do that. So Supes and Darkseid are both High 6-C and lower characters get 6-C to "At least 6-C, likely High 6-C"

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Basically from the original Low 6-B feat

Superman and Darkseid shook Apokolips to the core when fighting but it wasn't immediate and it was done out of their combined strength so basically each one of them has half of the strength needed to do that. So Supes and Darkseid are both High 6-C and lower characters get 6-C to "At least 6-C, likely High 6-C"

But that would mean Superman is 500 megatons, and 6-C+ is too far of a downscale. Which is a 5x downscale, when the maximum is 2x.

In this case, At most High 6-C is more appropriate

 

[ByAsura]

I still can't find the exact locations of Themyscira (other than it's probably not too far from the Himalayas) and Atlantis. If someone can find them, it'd probably be a big help to this scaling.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

But that would mean Superman is 500 megatons, and 6-C+ is too far of a downscale. Which is a 5x downscale, when the maximum is 2x.

In this case, At most High 6-C is more appropriate

I kind of remember the High 6-C tier was calculated one or two pages before though

 

[Hellbeast]

I'd say Hawkgirl is stronger, actually. The guy got his face ripped off by Harvey Dent, and Hawkgirl defeated Hawkman, who was clowning Cyborg.

Oh shit I forgot
Dude really was fodder

I don't remember his performance against A.M.A.Z.O. What chapter's that in.

I can’t recall but I believe it’s #46

Where does 6-C come from btw?

its from Asura’s calculation of Poseidon shaking Atlantis from Themyscira

The High 6-C is from Supes’ moon feat, Supergirl’s feat and dividing the Apokalips shaking in half

List of characters by tier for now. That would give us (discounting Trigon and Mxz):

• At least High 6-C, likely higher/far higher: Zeus (The only one to qualify, aside maybe from Highfather if we decide to keep his profile)
• High 6-C: Superman and comparable characters (Darkseid, Doomsday, Supergirl, Black Adam, Batman with green armor, Diana)

You forgot A.M.A.Z.O

• At least 6-C, likely High 6-C: "Normal" superhuman characters (Cyborg, Hawkman, GL/YL, Sinestro, etc)

My suggestion is to split the average metahunans (Sinestro and Cyborg) from the likes of Wonder Woman and Adam.

Beetle could qualify for this too, as would peak Ares and Hera (Who vaporised a character on par with Hal)

Those types I think should be the “6-C, likely High 6-C” characters. Characters like Arthur should prolly just be flat 6-C imo

• 9-B for human characters, variations of 6-C for when they take pills depending on each character's feats

I’d leave the unenhanced statistics for there revisions but this works.
Batman can probably scale outright to Supes with his pills though

Special tier: 5-A for YL Supes (I think that was what was calculated for the Mogo feat)

Yep By did that.
Until we touch Mxy and Trigon in their own tread we could use that as a placeholder for the time being

 

[ByAsura]

I can’t recall but I believe it’s #46

Which comic line?

its from Asura’s calculation of Poseidon shaking Atlantis from Themyscira

I'll have to get the actual locations of Atlantis and Themyscira first. Google maps gave me the middle of the Atlantic.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

I still can't find the exact locations of Themyscira (other than it's probably not too far from the Himalayas) and Atlantis. If someone can find them, it'd probably be a big help to this scaling.

I don't think the exact locations are given honestly

 

[Dark-Carioca]

List of characters by tier for now. That would give us (discounting Trigon and Mxz):

• At least High 6-C, likely higher/far higher: Zeus (The only one to qualify, aside maybe from Highfather if we decide to keep his profile)
• High 6-C: Superman and comparable characters (Darkseid, Doomsday, Supergirl, Black Adam, Batman with green armor, Diana)
• At least 6-C, likely High 6-C: "Normal" superhuman characters (Cyborg, Hawkman, GL/YL, Sinestro, etc)
• 9-B for human characters, variations of 6-C for when they take pills depending on each character's feats

Special tier: 5-A for YL Supes (I think that was what was calculated for the Mogo feat)

Agreeable

Lifting Strength-wise, I guess there's really no way to calculate the Atlantis feat, huh? Class G is a good guesstimate, but maybe it'd yield interesting results

 

[ByAsura]

Not necessarily exact, but relatively close.

 

[ByAsura]

Ok, I've found the location of Atlantis.

Now for the other one.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

You forgot A.M.A.Z.O

Oh yeah. He gets High 6-C then

My suggestion is to split the average metahunans (Sinestro and Cyborg) from the likes of Wonder Woman and Adam.

Beetle could qualify for this too, as would peak Ares and Hera (Who vaporised a character on par with Hal)

Those types I think should be the “6-C, likely High 6-C” characters. Characters like Arthur should prolly just be flat 6-C imo

Actually, I would say we put the lower characters like Arthur at "6-C, likely High 6-C" and stronger characters like Ares and Hera get "At least 6-C, likely High 6-C"

Until we touch Mxy and Trigon in their own tread we could use that as a placeholder for the time being

Yep

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Does Plastic Man have any feats against the stronger characters? I can't remember

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Does Plastic Man have any feats against the stronger characters? I can't remember

I remember he attacks Flash at one point but I can't remember anything else about him honestly

 

[Dark-Carioca]

He catches him off-guard and the two are buddies so I'm not sure how much that counts, though the other members of the Regime were cautious of him so that says something (he and his son fought against Croc and Orca and I am planning on making a page for the former).

I'm not sure if it's ever been talked about but is Bane helping Superman against Doomsday accepted as PIS here or just that his venom made him that stupidly strong? 'cause Bane couldn't have had access to the super pills.

 

[Hellbeast]

He catches him off-guard and the two are buddies so I'm not sure how much that counts, though the other members of the Regime were cautious of him so that says something (he and his son fought against Croc and Orca and I am planning on making a page for the former).

Of course the Croc Stan wants a page for him

As for Plastic Man I believe he restrains A.M.A.Z.O at one point but tbag
Might be the movie

I'm not sure if it's ever been talked about but is Bane helping Superman against Doomsday accepted as PIS here or just that his venom made him that stupidly strong? 'cause Bane couldn't have had access to the super pills.

Definitely PIS; Bane is nowhere near that strong anywhere else
As much as Toer 6 Bane is ******* based ots not a thing

 

[Hellbeast]

Which comic line?

Injustice 2
I know Diana is soundly overpowered and I believe Adam joined that fight at one point

I'll have to get the actual locations of Atlantis and Themyscira first. Google maps gave me the middle of the Atlantic.

That works; let me know when done

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Of course the Croc Stan wants a page for him

lol

(still not entirely sure what 'stan' stands for, same for 'based')

I probably won't get the chance though, since he's not as major of a character.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Injustice 2
I know Diana is soundly overpowered and I believe Adam joined that fight at one point

When did that happen?

That works; let me know when done

At least we have Atlantis located in the Mediterranean sea now

 

[Hellbeast]

When did that happen?

Regime Loyalists and Bruce’s “ Insurgents League” team up to fight Amazo in Injustice 2 #45 iirc

It’s when they’re all in New Deli and the issue before Supergirl takes the fight to space

(still not entirely sure what 'stan' stands for, same for 'based')

Stan is kinda like an extreme fogt
Based means it’s a badass take

I probably won't get the chance though, since he's not as major of a character.

I can do it; he definitely fits criteria and has tons of feats (and is a justifier for much of my proposed street level scaling to boot)

 

[Dark-Carioca]

an extreme fogt

"fgot" could easily be misinterpreted into a very concerning word xD

I can do it; he definitely fits criteria and has tons of feats

I made a respect thread for him (sorta) and everything, I could probably do it but last time I attempted to add more Killer Croc pages, specifically for the Crocs from Son of Batman and Gotham Knight, they were deleted because they weren't major enough (though people agreed that the SoA one should've been kept since the DCAMU Batman scales from him).

 

[TypeOU]

Black Adam is not above Superman. He's generally about on par with him (regardless of whether or not Supes actually does hold back).

talking about injustice. They fought and superman always needed help, like here



and here



he was jobbing in injustice 2 comics, a lot. To the point where wonder woman was considered to be much stronger by supergirl and them.

 

[ByAsura]

In the first panel, they're curbstoming them, in the second it's just the middle of a pretty even fight where Superman isn't really trying to harm him (although Supes actually does make him bleed) and wants Black Adam's allegiance.

Effectively, it just proves what I said.

@Hellbeast All I can find so far is that Paradise Island is very likely somewhere around Nepal or the UK. Could be 10,000 km, could be 100 at this point.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Regarding Black Adam, I don't know what speed feats have been listed, but in Injustice II #12 he catches a tank shell with a punch, so I figured I'd comment that here

 

[ByAsura]

Tank shells are like mach 4-6.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

I still can't find the exact locations of Themyscira (other than it's probably not too far from the Himalayas)

Where is it said that it's not too far from the Himalayas?

 

[ByAsura]

It's based on the Batjet travelling there quickly. Having read pretty much every comic I can find, it makes a lot of sense because Wonder Woman travelled to England within months via sail, and it was on the flightpath of Steve Trevor (he was implied to be traveling from either America to London, or Germany to London).

This is all the info I can find.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

This all happened in the Injustice comics (or maybe the game)? If so, I've forgotten all of this.

 

[TypeOU]

In the first panel, they're curbstoming them, in the second it's just the middle of a pretty even fight where Superman isn't really trying to harm him (although Supes actually does make him bleed) and wants Black Adam's allegiance.

I guess that's fine, still, shazam was overpowering adam pretty easily in ground zero, so if we assume that he's comparable to supes, that's still worth something

 

[ByAsura]

The Steve Trevor stuff was the Injustice 2 annual, and the Himalayas stuff was in Year 4.

I guess that's fine, still, shazam was overpowering adam pretty easily in ground zero, so if we assume that he's comparable to supes, that's still worth something

In all honesty, the game is bs. Shazam is definitely one of the more powerful league members.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

In the first panel, they're curbstoming them, in the second it's just the middle of a pretty even fight where Superman isn't really trying to harm him (although Supes actually does make him bleed) and wants Black Adam's allegiance.

At least it shows Adam can be placed on the same tier as Supes since they're pretty even

 

[ByAsura]

Given that Superman can't restrain his durability, they're not that far off even if he did hold back.

Wonder Woman breaking his arm, on the other hand, seems like technique.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

The Steve Trevor stuff was the Injustice 2 annual, and the Himalayas stuff was in Year 4.

In all honesty, the game is bs. Shazam is definitely one of the more powerful league members.

So where should he be put? Straight-up "High 6-C" or "At least 6-C, likely High 6-C"

 

[ByAsura]

Straight up, if we end up making a profile.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Given that Superman can't restrain his durability, they're not that far off even if he did hold back.

Wonder Woman breaking his arm, on the other hand, seems like technique.

If anything, it shows Diana isn't that far off either even if lower that them. At least Adam is confirmed to be more or less on the same tier as Supes

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Straight up, if we end up making a profile.

Ah yeah, he doesn't have one, that's true

 

[ByAsura]

If anything, it shows Diana isn't that far off either even if lower that them. At least Adam is confirmed to be more or less on the same tier as Supes

She's not enormously inferior, which is why I've always advocated for her scaling close to the High 6-C feat.

 

[ArkhamDC06]

That would give us Supes, Adam, Shazam, Darkseid, Doomsday, Supergirl, Diana and Bats with the green armor at High 6-C then

I can prepare Shazam's profile if that's okay for everyone

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Hum wait, wasn't Shazam defeated by Aquaman and Luthor in armor (also Deathstroke but Deathstroke is a mess)?