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I don’t think immersion should be an ability on the wiki; I will state my points individually.
It shouldn’t have even existed in the first place
Here’s the thread that got immersion accepted as an ability. See the issue? ZERO evaluation staff approvals. Ik we were lax with this stuff back then, but having no other evaluating staff inputting is just another level of lax.
Compare this to nowadays when abilities (that are typically more unique anyway) are subject to way more scrutiny.
Issue
For those who don’t know, immersion is the ability to travel into a fictional world i.e., to travel into novels, paintings, yada yada.
The current justification read as so:
The Issue with this is that terms like “cross the boundary between fiction and reality” read as if immersion would allow a character to go from a “real” world into a fictional world while still retaining the transcendental nature that comes with that. We know from the recent standard revisions that doing so would, in fact, contradict/debunk the character actually having a genuine r>f transcendence.
Well then what does that leave? The instances where r>f is present, but just not a real r>f transcendence. Like the toon force-y stuff where characters enter fictional works, but demonstrate that the fictional works aren’t any “less real” compared to reality
Looking at it from THAT perspective, we realize that… it’s… literally.. just traveling to a different space/realm…. aka Dimensional Travel.
Back when this page was made, we weren’t as strict with our r>f standards, so the page probably was intended to be dimensional travel thats like exclusive to genuine r>f…. NOW that genuine r>f and dimensional travel absolutely can’t intersect like that… the page is kinda moot.
Like a fictional place that isn’t actually fictional is just… any another place, are we gonna give pages to abilities that are essentially just dimensional but vary based only on what dimension/realm you’re traveling to????
I say nay. We might as well make an entire ability dedicated to specifically traveling into a character’s mental space under this logic.
Proposal/Workload
im not just proposing something without a plan for implementation. There’s 2 options:
Honestly all the same to me, and functions relatively the same way in practice as well.
Anyway, Let me know what y’all think
It shouldn’t have even existed in the first place
Here’s the thread that got immersion accepted as an ability. See the issue? ZERO evaluation staff approvals. Ik we were lax with this stuff back then, but having no other evaluating staff inputting is just another level of lax.
Compare this to nowadays when abilities (that are typically more unique anyway) are subject to way more scrutiny.
Issue
For those who don’t know, immersion is the ability to travel into a fictional world i.e., to travel into novels, paintings, yada yada.
The current justification read as so:
Immersion is an ability which allows one to cross the boundary between fiction and reality and enter the imaginary locations depicted in books, paintings, movies etc.
The Issue with this is that terms like “cross the boundary between fiction and reality” read as if immersion would allow a character to go from a “real” world into a fictional world while still retaining the transcendental nature that comes with that. We know from the recent standard revisions that doing so would, in fact, contradict/debunk the character actually having a genuine r>f transcendence.
Well then what does that leave? The instances where r>f is present, but just not a real r>f transcendence. Like the toon force-y stuff where characters enter fictional works, but demonstrate that the fictional works aren’t any “less real” compared to reality
Looking at it from THAT perspective, we realize that… it’s… literally.. just traveling to a different space/realm…. aka Dimensional Travel.
Back when this page was made, we weren’t as strict with our r>f standards, so the page probably was intended to be dimensional travel thats like exclusive to genuine r>f…. NOW that genuine r>f and dimensional travel absolutely can’t intersect like that… the page is kinda moot.
Like a fictional place that isn’t actually fictional is just… any another place, are we gonna give pages to abilities that are essentially just dimensional but vary based only on what dimension/realm you’re traveling to????
I say nay. We might as well make an entire ability dedicated to specifically traveling into a character’s mental space under this logic.
Proposal/Workload
im not just proposing something without a plan for implementation. There’s 2 options:
- I can change all of the links
- I can just add a redirect
Honestly all the same to me, and functions relatively the same way in practice as well.
Anyway, Let me know what y’all think