Fictional Creations Question

[AlipheeseXIV]

Pretty simple question but one I don't think I've ever seen discussed enough (or maybe that's because there is a pretty general consensus of how this works), say there's a character who is created from a fictional work (inside a fiction of course), what sort of existence are they then classified as? To use an example, if you see the immersion page it states that

Immersion is an ability which allows one to cross the boundary between fiction and reality and enter the imaginary locations depicted in books, paintings, movies etc. The places and time periods accessed through this ability are conceptual, as in they do not exist in reality, but users of this ability can still interact with and explore them like they can any place in the real world.

My question more or less stems from this, in the same way an area accessed by an immersion character is conceptual and/or "nonexistent" if you will, would a character who's then created through immersion maintain the benefits as a mostly/purely conceptual existence? And if so, exactly what abilities can be denoted from their unique existence as a result?

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

It depends on how the verse portrays said "fiction". For example, if the character goes inside a painting or a book, but destroying the book/painting also destroys him (at least his version inside said fiction), that doesn't give any ability.

But if the character and said fiction itself is unbound by the physical embodiment of it in the real world, it could be classified as various abilities, ranging from nonexistent physiology to beyond dimensional existence (type 1) or similar

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

But if the character and said fiction itself is unbound by the physical embodiment of it in the real world, it could be classified as various abilities, ranging from nonexistent physiology to beyond dimensional existence (type 1) or similar

Interesting...can you elaborate more on what you mean by "unbound?" The case I am referring to is more like this than the former, after the characater is created (they're created from a fictional book) they are unbound in the sense that, the destruction of the book means nothing to them if that means anything.

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

Interesting...can you elaborate more on what you mean by "unbound?" The case I am referring to is more like this than the former, after the characater is created (they're created from a fictional book) they are unbound in the sense that, the destruction of the book means nothing to them if that means anything.

Then next we need to know if the verse treats that fiction as something nonexistent (statements like "X does not exist in the world") or if they're unbound by the destruction of reality as well as a result (destroying space and time does not effect them, or attacks with spatial manipulation or temporal manipulation can't effect them either)

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Then next we need to know if the verse treats that fiction as something nonexistent (statements like "X does not exist in the world") or if they're unbound by the destruction of reality as well as a result (destroying space and time does not effect them, or attacks with spatial manipulation or temporal manipulation can't effect them either)

It does treat the fiction as if it doesn't exist yeah, and they are unbound by the destruction of reality, as well as not being affected by conventional spatial or time manip, but it's not as a result of them being born from the fiction. That is due to the powers they have in reality now, not sure if this disqualifies them from getting anything anymore or not.

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

It does treat the fiction as if it doesn't exist yeah, and they are unbound by the destruction of reality, as well as not being affected by conventional spatial or time manip, but it's not as a result of them being born from the fiction. That is due to the powers they have in reality now, not sure if this disqualifies them from getting anything anymore or not.

If they're treated as not existing, that's Nonexistent Physiology

However since you said they are not being affected by space time attacks due to different abilities, I'm not sure if it's Beyond dimensional existence or not

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Noted, thanks for the the help.

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

Noted, thanks for the the help.

Np

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Np

Oh right, I guess one more thing. Would the NEP they have as a result of this just be type 1?