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@QuasiYuri They transcend time and space as a result of time travelling, on top of being able to keep up with beings that are out of control gateways of time.
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There's a statement on the black beast being the boundary itself in the novel if that helps.
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I mean scan about this on black beast profile
The black beast is a living cauldron, the gateway to the boundary, and was capable of traversing through time in every single timeline reset in Calamity Trigger
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Wouldn't it just be like "[Lower Rating], Immeasurable while in the Boundary (Capable of seeing all points of time and can travel to any point they wish to)"
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I mean that's entire sentence you just said there already shows me you don't take the system all that seriously and just look at it completely semantically jokingly type of way instead of a logical one. Tldr your version of immeasurable is a literal shitpost that ignores and construes the whole system by walking around temporal dimensions as not being a part of the expectation at all and it have it follow this one and deny via appeal to ignorance
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This seems like a sensible solution. What do the rest of you think?
Thank you.
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@Antvasima there's still the black beast and takemikazuchi that's yet to be discussed.
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Shouldn't the transcendence of time and space scale to immeasurable speed tho?
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From what I understand it used to work like that in the past, but the rules changed and that's not enough anymore.
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Can I see the new rules?
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Speed
Speed is simply how fast a character can move in a given amount of time. There are five types of speed used for VS purposes: Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed. The term "Speed" normally refers to Combat Speed. The speed at which an attack moves. For...
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I wouldn't really agree with that. It's the Boundary that serves as a sort of gateway, not the characters doing something special.
Though if someone could post all the feats in a summary comment it would help.
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I’ll try to post them either later today or tomorrow, gonna be a bit busy with homework and another project.
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That's why i am keep asking about the scans
AkumaNoHissatsu
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So the boundary is just like a Dimensions where you can move trough Time and space
BUT ONLY ONLY IN THAT DIMENSION
So when the characters exit the Dimension, they're can't move trough Time or any immeasurable speed *****
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Why this kind of thing even qualified as immeasurable speed
BUT ONLY ONLY IN THAT DIMENSION
So when the characters exit the Dimension, they're can't move trough Time or any immeasurable speed *****
? Why this kind of thing even qualified as immeasurable speed
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If they require that dimension to time travel then it would be listed as a different speed stat.So when the characters exit the Dimension, they're can't move trough Time or any immeasurable speed *****
Why this kind of thing even qualified as immeasurable speed
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That's cause your viewing it the bubble of only being travel/movement speed but not factoring the characters reaction/combat speed cause hell the gate is practically a fighting stage in the boundary.So the boundary is just like a Dimensions where you can move trough Time and space
BUT ONLY ONLY IN THAT DIMENSION
So when the characters exit the Dimension, they're can't move trough Time or any immeasurable speed *****
Why this kind of thing even qualified as immeasurable speed
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Don't people also literally fight in the boundary sometimes. Pretty sure Ragna and Terumi fought each other there.
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And when ragna outside the boundary, he's not immeasurable anymore
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You don't have anything against that immeasurable speed from being in there not translate into reaction and combat speed on the outside of it.And when ragna outside the boundary, he's not immeasurable anymore
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It's not being Immeasurable in any shape or form though.
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do we have better speed feats than FTL or will the cast that currently scales to Immeasurable just be downgraded to a higher degree of FTL than the low tiers are at
I agree with this by the way
I agree with this by the way
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Wouldn't being able to move in Boundry itself be testament to thier speed feat in first place.
You cannot swim without being in water, niether can you swim by just entering water unless you know how to swim. Being able to swim is a feat tho.
Same here.
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Well that's just very arbitrary claim to say that without explaining why it isn't that.
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I already explained it above though; and haven't seen anything against that.
They only can travel because of the place's properties; not because of their own speed. Not all means of Time Travel are Immeasurable speed (at least under our standards).
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Except, everyone else defending has either explained that using this method of time travel means you transcend time which hits the standard of (This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed.) Since, if you surpass the first temporal dimension of spacetime this equals to immeasurable speed.
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If its a property that only have access to while in the realm, no.
An equivalent would be a Halo slipspace drive that uses another dimension to travel at FTL speeds.
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That's not a applicable cause your using a drive that part of some type of spaceship which doesn't have any implied fighting or combat in between mid jump.
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And from what you're telling me they only ever display the ability to time travel while in another realm. Meaning its not something they do under their own power or within a universal space.
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What I'm saying if their using this ability to time travel and they're able to fight/react to things while doing this means immeasurable speed scales both inside and outside of the boundary.
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That's a lot of words to say "I don't know Immeasurable speed standards".
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If they require the realm to time travel and don't feature the ability in real space I think its better to just split their speeds then. Since while I agree they're immeasurable they're only immeasurable there.
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So it would not be applicable in combat? Only if the match takes place in the boundary.
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like how the Flash has immeasurable speed via running through the speed force?
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And you don't have anything against my point that this not even in the same speed criteria cuz when the characters outside the boundary, they're don't even have some Immeasurable *****
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Yes, it's is alot to say mostly just say your claims to what immeasurable speed is purely arbitrary. But even then I'd have to give you a mini lecture just to what the definition of arbitrary means.
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