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Yes and their abilities work differently Toichiro built up all that power along with it not being locked away or influenced by emotion even the indication for their percentages are different Toichiro's are specifically labelled output
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If Everyone is not special...
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From what I've seen, Mob needs to actually reach 100% before he gets his stat amp, and that comes from his emotions building up, hence why rage power is on his profile, but both of these characters 100% is restricted. I didn't see anywhere that the increase in percent itself results in a stat amp. The Toichiro guy's power operates differently from Mob's, so just because as his percentage increases he gets stronger doesn't mean the same for Mob.
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You also should notice that espers can reinforce their stats with ESP. That's what Koyama, Teru and crapton others do.
Maybe I'm wrong because it was called "progress towards explosion" of his emotions.
Maybe I'm wrong because it was called "progress towards explosion" of his emotions.
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Yeah his enforcement is what puts him at High 8C and subsonic+
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That's where you are wrong. When he encountered Shimazaki he was clearly in base form.
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Please ban him this is actually annoying
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Oh
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So you're saying Mob has superhuman reflexes and high 8C dura and AP without his esp
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His name was "Trolling is Unbreakable"
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Different account. He is naming himself after JoJo parts. Next time he comes back he will be "Trolling Wind", "Trolling Ocean" or "Steel Ball Troll" or something.
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What was the first one? Trolling Tendency, Stardust Trollers?
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He wasn't amped during Shimazaki so I guess his esper aura is passive.Insert creative name here 12 said:
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Nah, he started doing that just a bit later.Insert creative name here 12 said:
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Seems so if that wasn't the case most espers would be dead from surprise attacks or spirits
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They are just naturally far more durable via having this energy in their body. By using their ESP they become much stronger and faster.
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Brace yourselves. He came back.
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Lol
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Mob FRA
There is more discussion around Mob being able to beat Deku than Deku being able to beat Mob.
Mob's TK is a lot more versatile than Deku's air blasts. Deku has had no experience with fighting a flying enemy.
There is more discussion around Mob being able to beat Deku than Deku being able to beat Mob.
Mob's TK is a lot more versatile than Deku's air blasts. Deku has had no experience with fighting a flying enemy.
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There's more discussion about Mob because he gets beaten in every single category. Deku amps to 20%, ignores all his projectiles and beats him up. The discussion right now is whether Mob can stat amp too, which it seems he can't, so his only option is to stall Deku out of 20%, which he can't due to speed and range. Mob's TK versatility doesn't do much to Deku if he can just dodge everything while spamming air blasts at the same time.
I don't think there's a single thing Mob can do that stops Deku from getting close enough to hit or restrain him.
> Deku has no experience with a flying enemy
> Deku fights mid air 75% of the time
> Can fight just as well in the air as he can on the ground
I don't think there's a single thing Mob can do that stops Deku from getting close enough to hit or restrain him.
> Deku has no experience with a flying enemy
> Deku fights mid air 75% of the time
> Can fight just as well in the air as he can on the ground
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It's literally in his weaknesses that 20% moves are predictable. Can you give me his feats in this form?
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And Deku still can't one shot Mob so it's irrelevant. It's not a 7,5x amp.
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His moves were predictable to Overhaul who vastly outskills Shigeo
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> Deku fights mid air 75% of the time
Wait, what? Deku didn't fight mid air 1st Bakugo fight.
Didn't fight mid air USJ
Didn't fight mid air against Todoroki, only flew in the sport festival cause of the bombs
Fought mid air against Stain because of the walls
Jump in All Might's fight with Bakugo but it wasn't to attack
Didn't fight Mid air against Muscular
Didn't fight mid air against Bakugo 2 except for the finishing blow
Didn't fight mid air against Mirio
75%?
Wait, what? Deku didn't fight mid air 1st Bakugo fight.
Didn't fight mid air USJ
Didn't fight mid air against Todoroki, only flew in the sport festival cause of the bombs
Fought mid air against Stain because of the walls
Jump in All Might's fight with Bakugo but it wasn't to attack
Didn't fight Mid air against Muscular
Didn't fight mid air against Bakugo 2 except for the finishing blow
Didn't fight mid air against Mirio
75%?
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@ Elixir 20% Deku can shrug off Mob's TK, blitzes him, and can KO him in a couple blows
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Good luck with that happening while Mob wasn't KO'd by multiple blows from his opponents and Mob just being capable of flying away. 20% breaks his barrier and Mob has time to fly away during this, lol. And how many times is Deku faster? 2? It's not really that much.
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And Mob is a ranged fighter, he's not stupid to get in confrontation with H2H brawler.
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It's not that his moves at 20% are predictable, it's that due to the pain his body is in, his movements are stiff in comparison to him when he isn't in 20%. Overhaul was a monster at prediction and analysis, saying Deku became predictable to him isn't exactly a negative fr Deku.
Deku at 20% dodged all of Overhauls attacks despite him manipulating the environment to do so, easily avoided Overhaul himself due to the speed gap, and utilized his normal movements to bounce off the ceiling to KO Overhaul in a single hit.
20% doesn't have a lot of feats, it scales to Deku's weaker usages of OFA but he's in pain. At weaker levels, he can easily maneuver himself mid air to dodge dozens of attacks coming from all around him, turn his opponents attacks against them, use air blasts mid air while upside down, jump incredibly high, bounce between buildings rapidly, fought and analyzed the Gentle Criminal in mid air, and several other mid air feats I'm probably forgetting.
@ElixerBlue are you an anime only? Deku has feats in the Hero License, Culture Festival and joint training arc where he fights mid air several times, you listed feats from before even Overhaul.
Deku blitzes people that are likely over 2x faster than his 8%, just need that calc revision to go through. And Mob can get ko'd by Deku, 20% is a large enough stat amp to make Deku's AP advantage very clear.
Case in point: Mob being able to fly is not going to stop Deku from getting to him unless he goes ridiculously high, but he would be outside his own attack range in doing so. Deku is above all of Mob's projectiles, has an AP/dura advantage, doesn't lose at range, has an intelligence advantage, and can't be affected by Mob's TK.
Deku at 20% dodged all of Overhauls attacks despite him manipulating the environment to do so, easily avoided Overhaul himself due to the speed gap, and utilized his normal movements to bounce off the ceiling to KO Overhaul in a single hit.
20% doesn't have a lot of feats, it scales to Deku's weaker usages of OFA but he's in pain. At weaker levels, he can easily maneuver himself mid air to dodge dozens of attacks coming from all around him, turn his opponents attacks against them, use air blasts mid air while upside down, jump incredibly high, bounce between buildings rapidly, fought and analyzed the Gentle Criminal in mid air, and several other mid air feats I'm probably forgetting.
@ElixerBlue are you an anime only? Deku has feats in the Hero License, Culture Festival and joint training arc where he fights mid air several times, you listed feats from before even Overhaul.
Deku blitzes people that are likely over 2x faster than his 8%, just need that calc revision to go through. And Mob can get ko'd by Deku, 20% is a large enough stat amp to make Deku's AP advantage very clear.
Case in point: Mob being able to fly is not going to stop Deku from getting to him unless he goes ridiculously high, but he would be outside his own attack range in doing so. Deku is above all of Mob's projectiles, has an AP/dura advantage, doesn't lose at range, has an intelligence advantage, and can't be affected by Mob's TK.
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Ok, it wasn't a jump and I worded it wrong.Bob8999 said:
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Hey uh, there won't be any blitzing... Speed is equal, and if it was not, Mob blitzes into oblivion.
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That's how I see this fight and how you describe it.
>Mob and Deku staring at each other
>Mob does this but much harder since he is willing to kill
>Deku survives with no injuries
>Deku uses 20% to kill Mob
I see it like this
>2 first
>Deku is exhausted and damaged
>Decides to use OFA, Mob senses energy in his body and flies away
>Deku jumps, since he has no other choice
>He can't control his moves mid-air as good as Mob, at all and tries to break through his barrier, and that gives him time to get away
>Deku feels even more pain
And what's after this?
>Mob and Deku staring at each other
>Mob does this but much harder since he is willing to kill
>Deku survives with no injuries
>Deku uses 20% to kill Mob
I see it like this
>2 first
>Deku is exhausted and damaged
>Decides to use OFA, Mob senses energy in his body and flies away
>Deku jumps, since he has no other choice
>He can't control his moves mid-air as good as Mob, at all and tries to break through his barrier, and that gives him time to get away
>Deku feels even more pain
And what's after this?
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> Mob blitzes
> is subsonic + to Deku being Hypersonic at 20%
> is subsonic + to Deku being Hypersonic at 20%
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@SpookyShadow your interpretation of events is noted, but not perfect or correct. Let's say Mob starts with tossing Deku around. The second Deku realizes he can't move his body at all and is getting thrown around, he stat amps and blitzes toward Mob to end the fight quickly. Mob isn't fast enough to fly away from 20% Deku before he reaches him, and any shield he puts up is getting destroyed since they're apparently relative to his own durability.
Deku doesn't have to jump to try and punch Mob, that's what his air pressure is for. He can redirect himself with air pressure, and since they're fighting in Central Park, should have some structures to bounce off of and utilize his mobility. You're horrendously downplaying Deku's mobility.
Deku doesn't have to jump to try and punch Mob, that's what his air pressure is for. He can redirect himself with air pressure, and since they're fighting in Central Park, should have some structures to bounce off of and utilize his mobility. You're horrendously downplaying Deku's mobility.
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Also, tired and exhausted? Deku? After only getting slammed into walls a couple times? Not very plausible considering his pain tolerance and stamina. This is the kid who can fght with both arms broken after getting beaten black and blue. The guy whose trump card fails, gets stabbed while still being in immense pain, and is still ready to fight. The guy who broke every single one of his fingers, broke his arm, then decided he didn't have enough and broke his fingers twice while having his broken arm frozen, then kept breaking them until he got the result he wanted.
Mob slamming Deku into walls is a laughable amount of pain, and definitely no where near enough to exhaust him.
Mob slamming Deku into walls is a laughable amount of pain, and definitely no where near enough to exhaust him.
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Mob could always crush his windpipe and call it a day.
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So, let's see, Mob has so many abilities, like tossing multiple objects at him, superhuman stamina, flight (which allows to fully control his movement mid-air, unlike Deku. Are there any feats of Deku kicking air like Maito Gai to reach his opponent? If there are, I would like to see them), Minegishi's plants that he can use to protect himself and attack, can generate explosions, et cetera et cetera.
When Mob sees Deku is going to jump he's not going to stand there like idiot and take it, but he will instantly either fly away even further or use his full energy to create a forcefield. It can take multiple attacks from people comparable to him (example, Toichiro attacking his barrier and it can tank his hits, and don't tell me that's different form so it doesn't count because he can do literally the same in this form, or he was unscratched by that kidnapper punch while it was just his mere aura, not even a created barrier)
So he can redirect himself with air pressure, but is it enough to blitz? Air pressure is not the same as jumping on the ground.
When Mob sees Deku is going to jump he's not going to stand there like idiot and take it, but he will instantly either fly away even further or use his full energy to create a forcefield. It can take multiple attacks from people comparable to him (example, Toichiro attacking his barrier and it can tank his hits, and don't tell me that's different form so it doesn't count because he can do literally the same in this form, or he was unscratched by that kidnapper punch while it was just his mere aura, not even a created barrier)
So he can redirect himself with air pressure, but is it enough to blitz? Air pressure is not the same as jumping on the ground.
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20% lifting strength >>> Mob TK
Also that's sounds bloodlusted
Also that's sounds bloodlusted
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Lmao, forgot that he can do this.Necromercer said:
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