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I think I dodge the Superman/Goku rule but not really. Maybe?

Well, according to Supes' page, his 3-A comes from:

- Destroying a structure that can tank the Big Bang.

- Defeating a guy who can create a universe.

- Stronger than Supergirl, who fough a being that could control every aspect of the universe.

Joe scales to him.
 
So, do I need to say that at one time, the fusion will be over or won't be happening due to the fight standards?

I think that Composite Superman can have this one, he has duplication, matter manipulation, mindhax, and can create super powers, I don't see Vegito winning this
 
Vegito Blue should have the AP advantage. So that kinda evens it out.
 
Well.

He could travel back in time to paradox Vegito, or maybe just grab one of the Poltara so Goku and Vegeta are left sitting ducks, he could make up whatever superpower he wants to in order to instantly kill Vegito... And, that's mostly it I guess.
 
I don't think Pre-crisis supes powers work that way. Also, isn't precrisis supes above Goku in ap
 
One of his powers is blaintly going back in time.

And he can in fact make up whatever superpower he wants.


So.


Yeah.
 
TBF, you should only use the powers he has shown in debates like this. Otherwise it would be NLF.
 
Vegito should take this from the start.

Superman's 3A feat is not that high above 3A, in fact, he's only a couple times above Baseline.

Vegito himself is about 20x above Baseline if I remember correctly? SSB Goku tied with Hit who previously stalemated SSB X10 Goku

Vegito and Zamasu are both ridiculously beyond that.

I believe Vegito one shots before Supes pulls out his hax.
 
Hmm.... Seems likely. I think he would need to be shown how strong his opponent really was to use his hax here, so...
 
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