I FINALLY DID IT (Dark thread)

[ALRF]

Anywhere on the planet, it did work against Machina.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

That doesn't show that it's superior to his Resistance , it's the same thing The Overlord resists, except it's not between dimensions

 

[Yobo_Blue]

If The Overlord could kill himself, it would in turn kill Methuselah

 

[ALRF]

If The Overlord could kill himself, it would in turn kill Methuselah

And why?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Both have the same type 8 and abstract

 

[ALRF]

....What? That doesn't even explain how Overlord killing himself would result in the death of Methuselah

 

[Yobo_Blue]

....What? That doesn't even explain how Overlord killing himself would result in the death of Methuselah

To kill the Overlord, you must kill darkness.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Darkness = Methuselah, no?

 

[ALRF]

Yes and it doesn't matter really.

Methuselah just mindfucks and calls it a day.

It doesn't matter if Overlord doesn't die or not, as long as he is affected by Methuselah mind manipulation he loses.

So iz the BFR which works differently (Correct me if i'm wrong), Methuselah just locks The Overlord in his 500,000 seperated barriers and leave him there (unless Overlord can do something against it)

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Yes and it doesn't matter really.
Methuselah just mindfucks and calls it a day.

It doesn't matter if Overlord doesn't die or not, as long as he is affected by Methuselah mind manipulation he loses.

Well, we don't know what going insane does with Methuselah mind hax, so it would help if you tell us.

 

[ALRF]

>Well, we don't know what going insane does with Methuselah mind hax, so it would help if you tell us.

Didn't understand this, do you mean what would happen to Overlord if he is affected by Meth mindhax? Or just how powerful Meth mindhax is?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

>Well, we don't know what going insane does with Methuselah mind hax, so it would help if you tell us.
Didn't understand this, do you mean what would happen to Overlord if he is affected by Meth mindhax? Or just how powerful Meth mindhax is?

I know how powerful it is, but Overlord isn't negating his own regen, and I don't know what occurs to someone who has gone insane via fear

 

[Schnee_One]

2-3 for Meth

 

[Yobo_Blue]

2-3 for Meth

No ones voted for meth...

 

[ALRF]

It really doesn't matter what would happen to Overlord after that. The fact that he no longer cannot fight due to going insane from the intensity of Meth mindhax gives dankness god who stalks waifu the win

 

[ALRF]

>No ones voted for meth...

Gargoyle did though

And i'm voting for Methuselah of course if my previous posts weren't enough

 

[Schnee_One]

I voted Meth actually, and so is ALRF

 

[Yobo_Blue]

It really doesn't matter what would happen to Overlord after that. The fact that he no longer cannot fight due to going insane from the intensity of Meth mindhax gives dankness god who stalks waifu the wi

Oh, but it does. If the only way he becomes insane is with fear of the dark, it's likely he'll end up attacking both of them, so either the Overlord becomes a vegetable or goes on a suicidal rampage

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I voted Meth actually, and so is ALRF

Ah, okay

 

[Yobo_Blue]

You have to remember that overlord's ap >>>>>>> Methuselah AP, so if the second occurs, one accidental hit annihilates Methuselah's physical form

 

[ALRF]

Methuselah has Mid-Godly regen so irrelevant

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Methuselah has Mid-Godly regen so irrelevant

Yes, but it also means Methuselah can't hurt him, meaning inconclusive

 

[ALRF]

Doesn't matter here, Hax comes first. Mindhax Overlord (It's passive after all) who will just go crazy or lock him in his barriers.

He could also reflect the Overlord attacks back at him so AP here has nothing to do here

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Doesn't matter here, Hax comes first. Mindhax Overlord (It's passive after all) who will just go crazy or lock him in his barriers.
He could also reflect the Overlord attacks back at him

Overlord also has mid godly and said barriers won't kill

 

[ALRF]

Barriers will not kill...............He will just lock him in there. Overlord will be stuck inside them

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Oh, I see. Do said barriers have feats? Id like to know their nature and or power

 

[ALRF]

Machina was locked in said barriers. Due to how they are (the fact that each of them are disconnected from each other) meant that Machina had to destroy the barriers over 500,000. Best thing is Methuselah moved the prison that Machina was locked in into a seperated place, effectively removing him from the battle.

 

[ALRF]

Machina was locked in said barriers. Due to how they are (the fact that each of them are disconnected from each other) meant that Machina had to destroy the barriers over 500,000. Best thing is Methuselah moved the prison that Machina was locked in into a seperated place, effectively removing him from the battle.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Ah, but that would mean that a high 6-A could destroy them, no?

 

[ALRF]

Not really, Machina can't do anything without having to resort to existence erasure.

High 6-A? Not anymore

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Why, what are they made of?

 

[VoidGoji]

The barriers literally made of "Night". 1400 years of "night" compressed in 500,000 barriers.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

That sounds conceptual.

 

[VoidGoji]

Welp, the only thing that showed to be capable of erasing the barriers was a conceptual erasure punch that can remove concepts from the universe.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

The overlord resists/negates concept Manipulation

 

[VoidGoji]

But still needing to destroy/negate the barriers one by one

 

[Yobo_Blue]

If he resists, it's far easier to do so, especially at FTL speed

 

[VoidGoji]

Machina is on a higher end of FTL than the Overlord, has conceptual resistance and a conceptual instant kill punch that erases concepts. He couldn't do that so fast

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Machina is on a higher end of FTL than the Overlord, has conceptual resistance and a conceptual instant kill punch that erases concepts. He couldn't do that so fast

Speed is Equalized to Methuselah, Overlord should have higher Resistance, and Machina only lost due to BFR from what I can tell. The Overlord's type 8 and abstract means he exists inside the barrier, and he can summon stone warriors to help and give them Resistance

 

[DMB_1]

... Don't wanna sound like a fanboy, but the Overlord could have resistence to Mind Manipulation, since the FSM has the element of the Mind. However, the Master of Mind can only use mind manipulation to read the enemy's mind OR to confuse him, so it could be resistence to just a minor level of it. Whether the FSM could have a stronger type of this, since cratures like Hypnobrais (which he crated himself) have it, or because he could have a more advanced form of the regular element of mind, it's up to your interpretation, but for now I vote Incoclusive.