I FINALLY DID IT (Dark thread)

[Yobo_Blue]

... Don't wanna sound like a fanboy, but the Overlord could have resistence to Mind Manipulation, since the FSM has the element of the Mind. However, the Master of Mind can only use mind manipulation to read the enemy's mind OR to confuse him, so it could be resistence to just a minor level of it. Whether the FSM could have a stronger type of this, since cratures like Hypnobrais (which he crated himself) have it, or because he could have a more advanced form of the regular element of mind, it's up to your interpretation, but for now I vote Incoclusive.

This mind hax is far beyond even star wars

 

[DMB_1]

... Don't wanna sound like a fanboy, but the Overlord could have resistence to Mind Manipulation, since the FSM has the element of the Mind. However, the Master of Mind can only use mind manipulation to read the enemy's mind OR to confuse him, so it could be resistence to just a minor level of it. Whether the FSM could have a stronger type of this, since cratures like Hypnobrais (which he crated himself) have it, or because he could have a more advanced form of the regular element of mind, it's up to your interpretation, but for now I vote Incoclusive.

This mind hax is far beyond even star wars

How can you say that? Explain.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

It's decillions of years of fear compressed into one instant

 

[ALRF]

Look up his profile, simple really

 

[DMB_1]

It's decillions of years of fear compressed into one instant

In a battle between abstract beings, it rearely matter what they rapresent. Alaso, Ninjago was born only a few thousands years prior to the advents of the series.

So, we have 2 votes for Meth (Gargoyle One, ALRF) , 0 for OV, and 4 Inconclusives (conclusive: 3 (Yobobojojo, DMUA, Bluetrekking, DMB 1).

 

[Yobo_Blue]

It's decillions of years of fear compressed into one instant

In a battle between abstract beings, it rearely matter what they rapresent. Alaso, Ninjago was born only a few thousands years prior to the advents of the series.
So, we have 2 votes for Meth (Gargoyle One, ALRF) , 0 for OV, and 4 Inconclusives (conclusive: 3 (Yobobojojo, DMUA, Bluetrekking, DMB 1).

Either way, no one's killing the other one.

 

[ALRF]

@DMB Don't understand what you are saying.

Meth mindfuck can make peopne go insane or just outright die. That seems more than enough to win against Overlord.

But his mindfuck gets even stronger for a reason. He has all the night to him, all of them are piled up from the beginning of Mercurius era. Which also includes the numerous timeloops the verse had (Mercurius counted up to decillions then stopped).

 

[Yobo_Blue]

@DMB Don't understand what you are saying.
Meth mindfuck can make peopne go insane or just outright die. That seems more than enough to win against Overlord.

But his mindfuck gets even stronger for a reason. He has all the night to him, all of them are piled up from the beginning of Mercurius era. Which also includes the numerous timeloops the verse had (Mercurius counted up to decillions then stopped).

Again, if he outright dies, GG from both, and insanity is really ambiguous

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Incapitation is a thing you know

 

[Yobo_Blue]

How does he incapacitate him though?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Mindfuck and letting him be. Or Mindfuck and BFR combo.

 

[ALRF]

You do know that it doesn't matter right? Overlord is incapitated because he no longer can fight because of mindfuck

Edit: Ninja'd

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Again, what exactly entails insanity here? Based on what I've seen about the Fear aura, it drives you insane with fear of the dark, which sounds like it would throw Overlord into a suicidal frenzy. BFR doesn't work , since he can just spam invulnerable armies at the barriers and has control over them to. If his fear aura just turns people into vegetables, this kind of becomes unfair

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

How can he span armies after getting mindfucked?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

How can he span armies after getting mindfucked?

You haven't told me if he becomes a vegetable or not once he's been affected

 

[ALRF]

What do you mean by vegetable? As in mindless? Or literal transmutation?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Mindless

 

[DMB_1]

@DMB Don't understand what you are saying.
Meth mindfuck can make peopne go insane or just outright die. That seems more than enough to win against Overlord.

But his mindfuck gets even stronger for a reason. He has all the night to him, all of them are piled up from the beginning of Mercurius era. Which also includes the numerous timeloops the verse had (Mercurius counted up to decillions then stopped).

If the Overlord had resistence to Mind Manip (which is a possibility) then he wouldn't get mind-******.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

@DMB Don't understand what you are saying.
Meth mindfuck can make peopne go insane or just outright die. That seems more than enough to win against Overlord.

But his mindfuck gets even stronger for a reason. He has all the night to him, all of them are piled up from the beginning of Mercurius era. Which also includes the numerous timeloops the verse had (Mercurius counted up to decillions then stopped).

If the Overlord had resistence to Mind Manip (which is a possibility) then he wouldn't get mind-******.

It's nowhere near enough.

 

[DMB_1]

@DMB Don't understand what you are saying.
Meth mindfuck can make peopne go insane or just outright die. That seems more than enough to win against Overlord.

But his mindfuck gets even stronger for a reason. He has all the night to him, all of them are piled up from the beginning of Mercurius era. Which also includes the numerous timeloops the verse had (Mercurius counted up to decillions then stopped).

If the Overlord had resistence to Mind Manip (which is a possibility) then he wouldn't get mind-******.

It's nowhere near enough.

What's not enought? Are you talking about Meth or the Overlord?

 

[Schnee_One]

If the Overlord had resistence to Mind Manip (which is a possibility) then he wouldn't get mind-******.

It absolutely would if his Mind resistance isn't up to par which it isn't.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

It really isn't enough, that's why we need to know whether or not he becomes a vegetable

 

[DMB_1]

It really isn't enough, that's why we need to know whether or not he becomes a vegetable

"Become vegetables"

You mean becoming a mindless life form? The Overlord's mind manip turns people into bloodlusted puppets that do nothing but serving the Overlord and killing.

 

[ALRF]

Nothing like Methuselah own mindhax

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Having mind hax=/=Resistance

Besides, this isn't Golden master.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Maybe this should be Composite Overlord

 

[ALRF]

What advantage that would give him?

 

[DMUA]

Shouldn't Golden Master overlord still have the abilities of his true form? You should probably edit his profile accordingly.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

What advantage that would give him?

Conceptual control over Creation and Destruction, much larger Resistance to Mind manip, and sealing not to mention holy Manipulation

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Shouldn't Golden Master overlord still have the abilities of his true form? You should probably edit his profile accordingly.

Probably not

 

[DMB_1]

Shouldn't Golden Master overlord still have the abilities of his true form? You should probably edit his profile accordingly.

Apparently, the Golden Master has both the power of Darkness and Golden power, so it's a possibility.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Even if he did, it's probably alot weaker

 

[ALRF]

How much resistant he is to Mind manip?

If not Methuselah still mindfucks

 

[Yobo_Blue]

How much resistant he is to Mind manip?
If not Methuselah still mindfucks

Overlord'sought mere essence transmutes and mind manip's with trace elements in the air.

Golden Master has all the powers of the First Spinjitzu Master, who fought the Overlord in his prime without any adverse effects, and as composite can't kill himself

 

[ALRF]

Let me say it again

How Overlord is bypassing Meth mindhax?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Let me say it again
How Overlord is bypassing Meth mindhax?

Via not being capable of killing himself and enough Resistance to merely go insane instead of being a vegetable IF that's what his insanity does, along with sealing and incredible Holy Manipulation as composite

 

[Tenebricite]

If Methuselah is able to effectively control The Overlord with mindhax, then I'd say he probably wins due to the fact that he does seem to have a few more useful abilities than The Overlord which would help Methuselah while using his mindhax, although I'm not completely sure about this. If The Overlord isn't greatly affected by the mindhax, this would probably be inconclusive.

 

[ALRF]

Doesn't matter, the fact that he went insane from Meth mindfuch means Methu has won.

And i'm very iffy about this "resistance"

Again what makes his resistance powerful enough to stop Meth from destroying his mind?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Doesn't matter, the fact that he went insane from Meth mindfuch means Methu has won.
And i'm very iffy about this "resistance"

Again what makes his resistance powerful enough to stop Meth from destroying his mind?

Insane means a lot of things, being unaffected by very good darkness based mind manip

Psychopaths are insane, so just saying "lol too insane too move" doesn't work unless we know for sure what insanity entails

 

[ALRF]

And what is this "very good darkness mind manipulation"? I'm asking for the feat.

Yeah...psychopaths =/= someone who went insane because of mindfuck