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Supernova destroys space, which Bill Cipher doesn't resist
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I DON'T EVEN LIKE CHICKEN WINGS
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So to summarize, Sephiroth is strong enough to hurt Cloud who is relative to a guy who has 2-A durability, and can block Cloud's Omnislash which as noted by the profile can one shot enemies unaffected by regular 2-A attacks
Bill Cipher is "casual 2-A", "gets stronger by the minute" and "doesn't seem to care about 2-A destruction". So to conclude, Sephiroth should be able to block small attacks Bill Cipher hits him with and knock out characters with the same durability as Bill. However, Bill can reform his body from his soul but I don't see anything on his profile that states he can't get knocked out
Sephiroth's hax includes energy blades that are as strong as his regular strikes, and a BFR attack that shatters a dimension, something that should kill Bill. However, its something he would only use if he sees Bill cannot be beaten by other means
Bill's hax includes the aforementioned regeneration and growing to the size of a planet. If he used this, Sephiroth would obviously use Supernova and beat him
Eden_Warlock99
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How would Supernova kill Bill btw
Don't quite get what "destroy space" means
Don't quite get what "destroy space" means
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Not really? Because Bill can regenerate his body from his incorporeal Mindscape Form which is NEP 3 Soul/Mind/Energy, and that seems to be just space-time hax which does not really bypass it, especially when Bill is Type 1 and 4 Acasual.
Literally how can Bill even get knocked out? It's not like he has weird weakpoints like humans.
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If the space Bill is in is destroyed, why would his soul not be removed? Having NEP doesn't make you not bound by space
You didn't tell me Bill can't get knocked out when I asked
Eden_Warlock99
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Anyone with Mid or higher regen can't get knocked out
The only exception are like some Toon Characters since there's usually a scene of them getting knocked out
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You can have the power to regen your whole body and still be knocked out
Eden_Warlock99
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Due to how regen works here, if you can recover from brain damage then nobody will be able to knock you out
Low-Godly lads who can be knocked out are the exception, not the rule
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why is that? The fact that there are exceptions proves what you're saying is not true. You are basically saying "you cannot be knocked out if you have mid or higher regen unless you can", which is not logical
Eden_Warlock99
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Fiction follows real world logic unless it contradicts it, basically same thing
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If your regen speed is not fast enough it might not make you unable to be knocked out. Regeneration is also not stamina
Eden_Warlock99
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Bill in this case doesn't even need a body and only makes it to interact with the world, so I really doubt there's even a brain in there
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Then Supernova is the only way he can win
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Sephiroth would use Supernova before he runs out of stamina
ShionAH
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How does it interact with NEP?
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It can destroy the dimension Bill is within, NEP doesn't mean it doesn't have space
ShionAH
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You are arguing it can destroy Mindscape as a whole?
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No, the dimension Sephiroth BFRs him to or the dimension they are fighting in
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To be fair is the "normal" EE is ineffective against Bill on-site, why would destroying space be different?
ShionAH
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So if he only destroys the dimension where Bills physical body exists how will he destroy the mindscape where Bills mind and soul reside in?
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Also, wait. 2-A durability come from the fact Bill would no sell the destruction of 2-A space-time, so...
ShionAH
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Plus he stomps Shacktron who possibly is powered by something that can shake a layered 2-A place
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Erasing someone's existence is not always the same as erasing the space they are within. Someone with no space would have type 1 of this ability
If his soul is just in this mindscape then he's not fighting Sephiroth anymore he's just chilling in his own dimension. Is Bill's soul not inside his physical body too?
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I forgot about that. This means this matchup is a stomp. Do stomp VS threads get closed or do we just ignore them?
ShionAH
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Bill exists in mindscape which overlaps with physical world but it still "not there"
Bill can simply create a new body for himself after Sephiroth kills him over and over again
Does Sep resist Sleep hax?
Eden_Warlock99
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Lad has Type 3 Self-Sustenance, so ye
ShionAH
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Bro wtf
In some matches people say Type 3 is not enough for a resistance
and in others they say it is
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That's something @ShionAH made up, it's absolutely inside his body lol, just that is NEP.
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The former yes. You can ask to a staff for it, as prolonging this is pointless.
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- Type 3: Restful Self-Sustenance: The ability to continue acting forever without rest or need for sleep. These users of this ability require no rest and do not run out of energy, or even feel tired. This ability denotes practically infinite stamina and may support a resistance to certain types of Sleep Manipulation.
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Support doesn't mean it's by default, so 
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Not like I agree with that but whatever.
.Not like I agree with that but whatever.
ShionAH
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Did you read the comments here?
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Bill simply ***** hard with NEP based regen, Mind hax and Law hax.
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