Also not taking orders from King his superior, complaing about Franky running when he was charging the General Cannon despite he himself cheating in their fight with outside help etc. She could break shields that tanked the Shogun's Rocket Lancher while even basic punches/kicks from him could draw blood from Zoan Sasaki.
The OP isn't using that because not even Luffy's base AP is H6A currently.
Yes, the durability of his buso would obviously be lower if he isn't going all out during any given moment.
I get the issue but i don't think it matters? She didn't cause a massive amount of damage to Luffy, indeed, i am pretty sure Thunder Bagua drew more blood and that was against a completely serious Luffy.
Base Kaido did more damage against a serious Luffy (without Koka) than Ulti did to a casual Luffy (with Koka), i wouldn't say the 2nd feat is much better than the 1st.
Again, Luffy was way more casual and each of the Yonko's attack sent Luffy flying meters, Ulti didn't do that.
Bruh, i missed it, but what's your opinion on it anyway?
I get most of it but i am pretty sure the "strongest creature to ever exist" is in reference to his Dinosaur fruit and not to himself.Sasaki has proven himself to be arrogant about his own power when he claimed he was the strongest creature to ever exist, and the dialogue seems to suggest that it has more to due with her protecting Momonosuke (she has constantly been using herself as a human shield to protect him):
She recovered because of her ancient zoan crazy regen like Page 1 recovered from getting oneshot from Gear 2+3 Haki Luffy. Hell she got back up from BM's triple hommie attack. Like Luffy, Yamato was more casual with Ulti; at one point she could block her enraged attack while turning around to talk to Luffy.
I know that, mind to explain why you're pointing that out?
I'm aware he doesn't scale there, I'm just saying I don't have issue with her overpowering base Luffy.
Luffy has never done this, and all he said in that situation with Ulti is that he needs to be smarter; his solution wasn't using stronger Buso or base strength but blitzing her & using gear third to take down Page one.
Using scaling that places Base Ulti above or even relative to any version of Kaidou matters quite a bit, kinda suggests that you don't understand the issue at all if you don't believe it matters.
Welcome to every One Piece CRT ever.
I mean, there's literally a sandbox that basically has the profiles of all the Tobiroppo done.
Because it's not mine so posting a sandbox without the maker's permission would be pretty rude.
Who has the sandbox for Ulti? @KobsterHope07 has Black Maria on his sandbox
Got it
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The hit he blocked in 1009 sent him flying and left his hands swollen like his clashes with Katakuri, Ulti completely failed to do this so her feat is, yet again, worse than Kaido's.
Only found this post about Black Maria's feat.
Radical Beam should get a very hypothetical " possibly H6A " as BM felt threatened by it.
I can see why now.
If it's not something unseen in the verse show me an example of Luffy doing it, I claimed he's never done this and you've yet to prove otherwise.
You're wrong, Ulti made Luffy bleed through his Buso Koka defense while Kaidou didn't. That's the issue with the feat and I've already explained this.
When the **** did she use Hao in that attack.
Uh, Ulti wasn't defeated by Dura Neg, you literally say that she got knocked out by a non-dura neg attack 2 sentences before that..
There is both an aura around her fist and didnt connect with P1 and it also in the chapter were nami and usopp ecounter ulti. (Don't remeber chapter number)
was on general thread but there's too many pages to scroll through to find that
That was Advanced Armament.
Dura neg.
its both
I don't think it is.
The lightning from the fist is clearly and easily proof of it
Oh.. So the lightning means it's a Hao clash?
Istg it's as if MonkeMan learns all of his OP scaling off of ******* reddit or something
You're confusing the small sparks that shoot everywhere with the single thick lightning streaks that are directly connected to the fist/weapon. The black sparks are busoshoku. The attached streak is haoshoku
Ngl this would be a good insult if it didn't come from you of all people.
Sorry, but I still kind of fail to see how it's Advanced Hao just because of the lightning.
Not because of that, it's advanced Hao because of the not touching. And it's advanced Buso because of the black sparks.
God dayum if even Kachon finds you intolerable there must be something up!
Asshole.
I would not mind that at all.
