Honkai Impact 3rd

[Avengershows]

Or we are really overthinking these feats and the scaling

Its a gag verse to some extent, it's meant to be absurdly powerful.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

You know as a more minor thing I was thinking ever since Genshin got this
Should I add a sort of more specified tier ranking of the characters in the verse
For example we’d have something like

Pseudo Herrscher tier/Judgement tier? -
Those who can definitively outclass Emperor/Judgement class Honkai beasts or scale to Avora
which characters like Benares, Striker Fulminata, Drive Kometa Bronya (The 6-C’s)

S-Ranker tier - Around the level or above the level of power of lower level or more average S-Rankers since Cecilia and Durandal are kinda outliers
Includes the likes of Rita, Base Siegfried, Welt, Theresa and Partial Transformation Mei (Theres more but yeah) in general the High 6-C’s

True Herrscher tier - The 6-As and high 6-A’s along with the god keys where the likes of Cecilia and Durandal are ofc included
(This tier has the biggest gap between the weaker and stronger members of it)

 

[Neutralino]

I mean being Humourous and absurd doesn’t discredit anything in if itself
Kinda like no one for Gag Ritsuka Fujimaru discredits him(her?) being physically 6-C for bodying servants consistently despite how dumb it is

Kinda like how even in Captain verse Liliya was 6-C Captain verse Tesla would be like High 7-A for chipping her and surviving a counter from her on 1hp and would have nigh infinite stamina for standing around for 2000 years without food or sleep
Is it dumb and funny yeah but feats are feats

The most we should do, if even this, is to have a separate key for characters who have a captainverse counterpart since it clearly isn't meant to be like the main storyline.

S-Ranker tier - Around the level or above the level of power of lower level or more average S-Rankers since Cecilia and Durandal are kinda outliers

Ha, that reminds me of when Otto joked that there should be a Durandal tier for Durandal alone since she's so much stronger than even other S-rankers.

 

[Stocking.exe]

You know as a more minor thing I was thinking ever since Genshin got this
Should I add a sort of more specified tier ranking of the characters in the verse
For example we’d have something like

Pseudo Herrscher tier/Judgement tier? -
Those who can definitively outclass Emperor/Judgement class Honkai beasts or scale to Avora
which characters like Benares, Striker Fulminata, Drive Kometa Bronya (The 6-C’s)

S-Ranker tier - Around the level or above the level of power of lower level or more average S-Rankers since Cecilia and Durandal are kinda outliers
Includes the likes of Rita, Base Siegfried, Welt, Theresa and Partial Transformation Mei (Theres more but yeah) in general the High 6-C’s

True Herrscher tier - The 6-As and high 6-A’s along with the god keys where the likes of Cecilia and Durandal are ofc included
(This tier has the biggest gap between the weaker and stronger members of it)

Actually, Emperor class alone is require something like normal S ranker, Psuedo-Herrscher maybe not a rank but somehow a state.

Why Fulminata and Drive Kometa comparable to Benares?

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Actually, Emperor class alone is require something like normal S ranker, Psuedo-Herrscher maybe not a rank but somehow a state.

Why Fulminata and Drive Kometa comparable to Benares?

They don’t scale to Benares they just vaguely scale to avora because of Wendy
Since Benares is a threat to Theresa she’s stronger than them
I know Psuedo Herrscher isn’t truly a rank I’m kinda just treating it as one

Althougy despite needing S-Rankers im pretty sure it’s meant as an S tanker is needed to beat them with next to no casualties while if a rando A tanker swoops in they definitely are gonna get obliterated

 

[Lapsad]

I've interested on L5B calc its pretty good.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

The most we should do, if even this, is to have a separate key for characters who have a captainverse counterpart since it clearly isn't meant to be like the main storyline.

Ha, that reminds me of when Otto joked that there should be a Durandal tier for Durandal alone since she's so much stronger than even other S-rankers.

Oh absolutely the captain verse would be serperate lol as Canon Valkyrie Ranger Kiana being 8% light speed alone is wack
Same with planet to universal busting Vodka Twins lmfao

But yeah Durandal is just built that different

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Oh absolutely the captain verse would be serperate lol as Valkyrie Ranger Kiana being 8% light speed alone is wack
Same with planet to universal busting Vodka Twins lmfao

But yeah Durandal is just built that different

Btw here’s the scan for Captain verse Kiana’s speed it’s actually 25402km/s slightly faster than I originally remembered

 

[Neutralino]

Btw here’s the scan for Captain verse Kiana’s speed it’s actually 25402km/s slightly faster than I originally remembered

Wasn't that an animation? It's not the captainverse, or at least I think it isn't.

Actually, Emperor class alone is require something like normal S ranker

Huh, good find. I need to read the enemy description screens more. Didn't realize Emperor-classes were that strong. I remember reading somewhere that an Emperor killed an entire army of regular soldiers.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Wasn't that an animation? It's not the captainverse, or at least I think it isn't.

I kinda always thought the Marathon race was apart of the captain verse since it’s obviously not canon (Would be funny if it was) since I kinda view most non canon stuff as happening in the captain verse

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Huh, good find. I need to read the enemy description screens more. Didn't realize Emperor-classes were that strong. I remember reading somewhere that an Emperor killed an entire army of regular soldiers.

Kinda puts into perspective how strong Benares is as a judgement class Honkai beast shame Benares borderline jobs 24/7

 

[Vietthai96]

Sorry to derail, but anyone here play Counter:Side

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Sorry to derail, but anyone here play Counter:Side

Nope

 

[Stocking.exe]

Sorry to derail, but anyone here play Counter:Side

I tried it in KR server

 

[Stocking.exe]

The lore somehow smell like Arknight + GFL + HI3.

 

[Neutralino]

I kinda view most non canon stuff as happening in the captain verse

I view them as happening in each of their own bubble universes. Events, characters' birthday events, bridge interactions, etc.

Kinda puts into perspective how strong Benares is as a judgement class Honkai beast shame Benares borderline jobs 24/7

Benares wasn't a jobber! She was definitely a dangerous threat. What I wonder is how much of the threat she posed came from her being a judgment class and how much was because of her fake Herrschers gem/core, because most of her feats came afterwards. Pre-gem, she had very few feats and got oneshotted by Welt. Personally, I think it’s more relevant to think of Benares as a pseudo Herrscher instead of a judgment class because we don't really know how strong a typical judgment class is.

 

[Stocking.exe]

Personally, I think it’s more relevant to think of Benares as a pseudo Herrscher instead of a judgment class because we don't really know how strong a typical judgment class is.

But data say yes

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

I view them as happening in each of their own bubble universes. Events, characters' birthday events, bridge interactions, etc.

Benares wasn't a jobber! She was definitely a dangerous threat. What I wonder is how much of the threat she posed came from her being a judgment class and how much was because of her fake Herrschers gem/core, because most of her feats came afterwards. Pre-gem, she had very few feats and got oneshotted by Welt. Personally, I think it’s more relevant to think of Benares as a pseudo Herrscher instead of a judgment class because we don't really know how strong a typical judgment class is.

In terms of jobbing I mainly refer to Benares with no core with the core she gets props and was actually a threat but without it she

Gets one shot by Welt so bad that Sirin needed a lot of her energy to heal her

struggles against Himeko and later needed to be saved by Sirin from Vermillion Knight Himeko

In the boss fight in ch 17 with Mei we knockdown Benares in one shot in a QTE

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

But data say yes

I should really read the enemy description screens

 

[Neutralino]

But data say yes

Yes, base Benares is judgment class, but pseudo Herrscher Benares are where her best feats come from, making her judgment class status irrelevant in comparison. And it's nice to have a solid statement about the year the chapter occurred in, even if it does contradict the loading screen that would place the start of the game in 2017.

 

[Avengershows]

Should we add Napoleon Bonaparte? They have good feats (both the honkai beast aka "original" and the alternate version). Both have a stigmata and the alternate version has barrier creation, can endure the effects of the sea of quanta just like the original, and both scale to eachother (also the honky beast tanked the dudu destroying really hard stuff) Oh and the OG had a mind control chant that let him turn people into a hivemind state, so his stigmata is likely the Herrscher of Legion

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Should we add Napoleon Bonaparte? They have good feats (both the honkai beast aka "original" and the alternate version). Both have a stigmata and the alternate version has barrier creation, can endure the effects of the sea of quanta just like the original, and both scale to eachother (also the honky beast tanked the dudu destroying really hard stuff) Oh and the OG had a mind control chant that let him turn people into a hivemind state, so his stigmata is likely the Herrscher of Legion

I mean sure why not
Sounds like a hella busted Smurfy character (Granted a lot of characters in Honkai already are but you get my point)

 

[Avengershows]

I mean sure why not
Sounds like a hella busted Smurfy character (Granted a lot of characters in Honkai already are but you get my point)

I dont think its smurfy as much as just beastly strong. Not a lot of abilities but is the one that tanked Dudu's fifrth of the earth bust

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

I dont think its smurfy as much as just beastly strong. Not a lot of abilities but is the one that tanked Dudu's fifrth of the earth bust

Inb4 the complexities of inverse square law ***** the feat of tanking such a high energy attack
Being serious tho is it known how close Napoleon was to the origin of the blast or is there a vague idea
Since a 1/5th of the planet is just so wide of an area that a lot of the energy wouldn’t be allocated to her (Thank god Kiana nigh point blank with the arc city Bomb)

 

[Neutralino]

Should we add Napoleon Bonaparte? They have good feats (both the honkai beast aka "original" and the alternate version). Both have a stigmata and the alternate version has barrier creation, can endure the effects of the sea of quanta just like the original, and both scale to eachother (also the honky beast tanked the dudu destroying really hard stuff) Oh and the OG had a mind control chant that let him turn people into a hivemind state, so his stigmata is likely the Herrscher of Legion

Where can I read about all this? Is it stigmata lore?

 

[Avengershows]

Where can I read about all this? Is it stigmata lore?

Visual Novel

Inb4 the complexities of inverse square law ***** the feat of tanking such a high energy attack
Being serious tho is it known how close Napoleon was to the origin of the blast or is there a vague idea
Since a 1/5th of the planet is just so wide of an area that a lot of the energy wouldn’t be allocated to her (Thank god Kiana nigh point blank with the arc city Bomb)

It's vauge but he was in the sky and at some point got cucked into space and had to fly back down

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Visual Novel



It's vauge but he was in the sky and at some point got cucked into space and had to fly back down

By the description you’ve given of the potential distance sounds like it might be hundreds of meters or even like a kilometer away
Either way despite inverse square law being a jerk it will probably still be in low end tier 5
Maybe around moon level?

 

[Avengershows]

By the description you’ve given of the potential distance sounds like it might be hundreds of meters or even like a kilometer away
Either way despite inverse square law being a jerk it will probably still be in low end tier 5
Maybe around moon level?

We don't know his original location. He was just in Europe but eventually got thrown into space and had to fly down

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

We don't know his original location. He was just in Europe but eventually got thrown into space and had to fly down

Well then withstanding it’s destruction is completely unquantifiable then
Rip

 

[Stocking.exe]

楽しい

 

[Stocking.exe]

Somehow I wanted to do Bronie's profile after finished the event, her abilities seems fine but a stat may not.

 

[Stocking.exe]

Anyway though the bubble universes might be small or weak compare to the main world, they are still indeed such a vast with boundless and infinite space, Hope it can be an upgrade feat for Durandal I guess.

 

[Neutralino]

Anyway though the bubble universes might be small or weak compare to the main world, they are still indeed such a vast with boundless and infinite space, Hope it can be an upgrade feat for Durandal I guess.

I'm pretty sure Bronie's bubble universe being only slightly larger than a city is specific to that one and isn't a trend for bubble universes in general.

 

[Stocking.exe]

Not just that, the description about bubble universes in Plain of Vigrid said that they possesses an endless space.

 

[Stocking.exe]

The infinitely extending space reflects the landscape that does not belong to this world, which is an abnormal phenomenon called "world bubble". Then, the world is born from whose cognition?

In chinese context said like this

 

[NothingToDebateWith]

Hey, me again with another silly question.

While playing CO-OP Raid, I've encountered with one of Tesla's products (in the armors that Ether Team is wearing) literally allow Valkyries to go into "Imaginary State" with the help of "Overdrive Mode", which you cannot even scratch the Honkai Monster otherwise. Shown in here. Does this qualify as a intelligence feat for Tesla?

 

[Lapsad]

Yeah she's probably EOG (extraordinary genius) or borderline genius.

 

[Stocking.exe]

Hey, me again with another silly question.

While playing CO-OP Raid, I've encountered with one of Tesla's products (in the armors that Ether Team is wearing) literally allow Valkyries to go into "Imaginary State" with the help of "Overdrive Mode", which you cannot even scratch the Honkai Monster otherwise. Shown in here. Does this qualify as a intelligence feat for Tesla?

She got a lot of compliments from Otto, yes she is indeed somehow extra genius.

 

[Stocking.exe]

Thanks for a scan, it would be a good supporting feat for imaginary state beings.

 

[Avengershows]

A small snippet about the bubble universe from the VN