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Honkai Impact 3rd

Stocking.exe said:
I mean, I know what the sword can do but the context in the scan you have send is quite mythological comprehension like "Legendary Sword Excalibur used by Arthur Pendragon", it cannot help much as other feats that has been stated.
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Ye I just put it here for supporting statements for stuff like the sword itself stating its universe ending, timespace itself, and the time dudu used it to destroy the continent of Europe on all higher dimensional levels
 
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as for Bianka's Universe size it's very likely that it's at least a small galaxy.
Otto stated that it had a solar system with the clone of our Earth and then we later see that it is within our galaxy, however this galaxy most likely is a random irregular shaped galaxy rather than a copy of our milky way.
 
Avengershows said:
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as for Bianka's Universe size it's very likely that it's at least a small galaxy.
Otto stated that it had a solar system with the clone of our Earth and then we later see that it is within our galaxy, however this galaxy most likely is a random irregular shaped galaxy rather than a copy of our milky way.
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This is why i get iffy the whole thing about High 1-C, the size of the universe is unknown, it could be at best large galaxy sized, unless i'm missing something
 
Vietthai96 said:
This is why i get iffy the whole thing about High 1-C, the size of the universe is unknown, it could be at best large galaxy sized, unless i'm missing something
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The high 1C stuff comes from the imaginary tree and there being an infinite amount of universes.
The bubble universe there was actually made by the seelene with a blast power equivalent to the 2nd herrdchers total honkai energy amount. It started out as just a clone of the solar system and grew by absorbing fragments that spilled out from the main universe in itself (basically smaller world bubbles that were made) and grew.
The whole energy thing is consistent too because of Welt being able to detonate via supernova and exceed 1.4 solar masses to do so. Also the stigmata moon destruction shit and other shit like that.
 
Avengershows said:
The high 1C stuff comes from the imaginary tree and there being an infinite amount of universes.
The bubble universe there was actually made by the seelene with a blast power equivalent to the 2nd herrdchers total honkai energy amount. It started out as just a clone of the solar system and grew by absorbing fragments that spilled out from the main universe in itself (basically smaller world bubbles that were made) and grew.
The whole energy thing is consistent too because of Welt being able to detonate via supernova and exceed 1.4 solar masses to do so. Also the stigmata moon destruction shit and other shit like that.
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I'm dumb not the Selene, its the Moonlight Throne. I confused the names
 
Wait, so the power Welt and Sirin possesses is comparable to this pocket universe stuff? That doesn't sound right.
 
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CYCLOHEXANE-2 said:
Wait, so this pocket universe stuff is comparable to the power Welt and Sirin possesses? That doesn't sound right.
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Not to power but to their maximum energy amount.
And it is relatively consistent given that Welts core self destructing could cause a supernova. Besides that it's most likely just a Large Star Level feat due to the fact that it just replicated out solar system. The bubble universe later passively grew in size to what we can estimate now to be around the size of a galaxy
 
Avengershows said:
Welts core self destructing could cause a supernova. Besides that it's most likely just a Large Star Level feat due to the fact that it just replicated out solar system.
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Well tbf in the case of welts core the way it’s described seems to be chain reaction rather than a direct cause
Since he’s just making the core so dense and heavy it will forgo nuclear fusion

(It’s kinda like how if you chemically bond hydrogen and oxygen together there’s heat but your not pumping in the energy required to make that heat it’s just a separate side effect)

The only thing welt is actually doing directly is increasing its mass to above 1.4 Solar Masses but E=MC^2 calcs usually aren’t allowed unless it’s an explicit statement

Btw if E=Mc^2 was allowed for welt increasing his cores mass it would be straight up solar system level so yeah not even just large star(It would be 2.502e47 Joules)
 
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Jackof_noTrades068 said:
Well tbf in the case of welts core the way it’s described seems to be chain reaction rather than a direct cause
Since he’s just making the core so dense and heavy it will forgo nuclear fusion

(It’s kinda like how if you chemically bond hydrogen and oxygen together there’s heat but your not pumping in the energy required to make that heat it’s just a separate side effect)

The only thing welt is actually doing directly is increasing its mass to above 1.4 Solar Masses but E=MC^2 calcs usually aren’t allowed unless it’s an explicit statement

Btw if E=Mc^2 was allowed for welt increasing his cores mass it would be straight up solar system level so yeah not even just large star(It would be 2.502e47 Joules)
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That's why I'm saying that it's their maximum amount of energy. Naturally they can't throw out that amount of power with every attack they do otherwise they'd end up with absolutely 0 honkai energy left. So I think that they should have a "Self Destruct" tab or something simillar like "Maximum energy"
 
Avengershows said:
That's why I'm saying that it's their maximum amount of energy. Naturally they can't throw out that amount of power with every attack they do otherwise they'd end up with absolutely 0 honkai energy left. So I think that they should have a "Self Destruct" tab or something simillar like "Maximum energy"
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My whole conclusion with this is that they are possibly Large Star Level+ to Solar System.
So far we have the feats such as Bianka with the Durandal Gems pulling a bubble universe that's at least the size of a galaxy into herself and sealing it
Hyoinmaru (I think that's how you spell it) casually wiping out the Moon in the Stigmata world to a level where not even debris were left
The creation of a Solar System replica having the same amount of energy as the 2nd herrscher and potentially 1st Herrscher
Already very damaged Welt being able to compress all his energy to a point where it'd explode in a Supernova
Sirin creating the Infinite Corridor which is most likely a higher dimensional plane based on observations
Edge of Taixuan "not even burning stars or grains of sand can stop the Edge of Taixuan" statement which broke Sirins Imaginary Barrier and would've killed her if it wasn't for God
Welt going High 1-C with Hax
A casual fight between Mei and Ana threatening to tear apart the fabric of space-time
The basically portal gun that was in North Africa being stated to be seemingly able to cleave the world in two, and then Kiana using HoV and Chi destroys a portal like construct that was able to tank the said portal gun
A honkai beast setting ruin to the southern hemisphere
Welt ******** out Quasi Black Holes and Sirin being able to crush them, oh and at one point ******** out an 11-D Singularity (albeit the latter was done after he ascended to 11-D)

remind me if there's more
 
Avengershows said:
My whole conclusion with this is that they are possibly Large Star Level+ to Solar System.
So far we have the feats such as Bianka with the Durandal Gems pulling a bubble universe that's at least the size of a galaxy into herself and sealing it
Hyoinmaru (I think that's how you spell it) casually wiping out the Moon in the Stigmata world to a level where not even debris were left
The creation of a Solar System replica having the same amount of energy as the 2nd herrscher and potentially 1st Herrscher
Already very damaged Welt being able to compress all his energy to a point where it'd explode in a Supernova
Sirin creating the Infinite Corridor which is most likely a higher dimensional plane based on observations
Edge of Taixuan "not even burning stars or grains of sand can stop the Edge of Taixuan" statement which broke Sirins Imaginary Barrier and would've killed her if it wasn't for God
Welt going High 1-C with Hax
A casual fight between Mei and Ana threatening to tear apart the fabric of space-time
The basically portal gun that was in North Africa being stated to be seemingly able to cleave the world in two, and then Kiana using HoV and Chi destroys a portal like construct that was able to tank the said portal gun
A honkai beast setting ruin to the southern hemisphere
Welt ******** out Quasi Black Holes and Sirin being able to crush them, oh and at one point ******** out an 11-D Singularity (albeit the latter was done after he ascended to 11-D)

remind me if there's more
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I agree with that take when it comes to Bianka and all the higher dimensional stuff
I’ll be neutral on the rest though
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
I agree with that take when it comes to Bianka and all the higher dimensional stuff
I’ll be neutral on the rest though
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My assumption as to why they didn't put higher tier feats in the beginning is because they were still unsure of how the story would develop since HI3 was essentially a rewrite of GGZ and in GGZ before the end kiana there weren't any super high tiered fights. So the early stuff probably got retconned to higher tiers after the story became its own story. Hence why there's sudden massive jumps in power like reality shattering, stellar shit, and just generally more insane tiers for the first few chapters of the game.
 
Well good news Boys my calc for Sirin’s meteors has been accepted they said either 2.1% Light speed or 4.2% Light speed ends are fine for it
So it’s Sub Relativistic

Guess I’ll start the preparations for the CRT tomorrow then
 
Avengershows said:
Just would like to add that the whole Star Level thing is still very unclear in the verse given that theres a bunch of conflicting feats within the series so I don't suggest bringing it up in the CRT
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Well with Welt’s self destruct my primary intention is to have it as just a far higher rating
Which that is kinda obvious

But if people are fine with it I’d also accept something like “Possibly High 4-C with self destruct” but I can see that getting rejected
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
Well with Welt’s self destruct my primary intention is to have it as just a far higher rating
Which that is kinda obvious

But if people are fine with it I’d also accept something like “Possibly High 4-C with self destruct” but I can see that getting rejected
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the thing is, there's multiple statements for Planet - Star Level stuff so I personally agree with a possibly High 4-C with self destruct more than just far higher since far higher isnt really clear with anything
 
Well great news everything In the revision got approved
And we can start enforcing the changes

I call dibs on editing Theresa, Sirin, Mei and Kevin
 
someone should make a profile for Honkai Energy, it is qualify for an universal energy system, so it should be less pain when we edit and create more honkaiverse character in the future
 
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