Homura vs. SMT Dante

[MYHERO]

Okay first off you little shit

Actually this thread has derailed into a Lavos vs Homura now that I think about it.

 

[Schnee_One]

Homura' mindhax works its a stomp

Otherwise, Dante stomps

TLDR match is bad close it

 

[MYHERO]

Well we need some SMT nuts here to explain the potency of mindhax in their verse.

 

[Dragopentling]

Yea idk where they at :/

It's either wisecracking mercenary stomps, or yandere girl turned devil stomps. And it depends on whether or not SMT guys are gonna speak up or not.

 

[Jaakuace44]

Mindhax protection in SMT tends to work against up to 2-A mindhax. At the very least, Dante is shown to be protected against Lucifer's mindhax.

 

[Dragopentling]

Is Lucifer's mindhax more potent than Homura's? If not, how does it work differently from hers, if at all?

Sry, I'm not as familiar with the SMT franchise as the majority here.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Uhm, pretty sure Lucy is leagues above Akumura in every way possible (including mindhax)

 

[DMB_1]

Mindhax protection in SMT tends to work against up to 2-A mindhax. At the very least, Dante is shown to be protected against Lucifer's mindhax.

But this early in the game though?

 

[Jaakuace44]

Lucifer's mindhax would likely be 2-A or High 2-A.

Hax in SMT are pretty potent, so it shouldn't be too surprising.

 

[DMB_1]

I know that pretty much any demon that can use Charm Spells has some sort of Mental Abilities, so Demi filed should have some level of resistance to mind hax by other 2-As, but I'm asking you if this key of Demified, which is way before he fights Kagutsuchi, has resistance to Lucifer's mid hax.

Edit: just noticed this isn't the "Homura vs. Demi-fiend thread".

But yes, Dante should be comparable to Lucifer at this point, and being able to shrug off some of his stuff.

 

[Kaltias]

I think that you are commenting on the wrong "Stomp thread either way featuring Homura and a dude from SMT"

 

[Jaakuace44]

I'm saying Dante has resisted mindhax from characters more powerful than Homura, basically.

Not that it matters. If it's a stomp thread, it's probably getting closed anyway.

 

[FateAlbane]

@Schnee
No, we're not gonna act like we don't know that Bill Cipher and Lavos haven't been literally punching bags in most of their versus threads.

It's what happens when peops only kept throwing Lavos against Conceptual things (or similarly complex powersets), which is an stablished fact for the thing to be unable to deal with.

Perhaps should I, too, start making obvious stomps or unfair matches involving characters who can't get past Immortalities or Higher level hax myself, then call them punching bags because "lulzmemes"? Probably not since we've been reeeeeeeally getting old with the whole "let's make matches everyone knows the result to". And not even just talking about Lavos on this.

 

[Dragopentling]

@Schnee
No, we're not gonna act like we don't know that Bill Cipher and Lavos haven't been literally punching bags in most of their versus threads.

It's what happens when peops only kept throwing Lavos against Conceptual things (or similarly complex powersets), which is an stablished fact for the thing to be unable to deal with.
Perhaps should I, too, start making obvious stomps or unfair matches involving characters who can't get past Immortalities or Higher level hax myself, then call them punching bags because "lulzmemes"?

Please no, it's a waste of time and resources

 

[PairusDragonoid]

What can do Homura? in the series and the movie i dont saw anything on the level of Dante :/

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

@FateAlbane Lavos is just in that bad position where he can't get wins because the people he does beat get stomped.

 

[Dragopentling]

What can do Homura? in the series and the movie i dont saw anything on the level of Dante :/

I guess you haven't really dug into the Madoka Magica series that much.

I will say that Dante just simply counters practically everything Devil Homura can do.

 

[PairusDragonoid]

I guess you haven't really dug into the Madoka Magica series that much.

I will say that Dante just simply counters practically everything Devil Homura can do.

Yes, and i dont know how canon are the spin-off or other means (manga, games, etc.)

 

[Kaltias]

Can I close this already?

I don't care enough to discuss scale of hax, and even then it's a stomp in any case independently from whose hax is better

 

[Cueio_2020]

Good idea.

 

[Kaltias]

@Pairus

The spin offs (that we use) are in most cases alternate timelines.

So canon to the verse, but not to the main timeline